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Navy Authorizes Chaplains to Perform Same-Sex ‘Marriages’ in Naval Chapels
Cybercast News Service ^ | 5/9/2011 | Pete Winn

Posted on 05/09/2011 6:16:00 AM PDT by markomalley

(CNSNews.com) – Anticipating the elimination of the military ban on homosexuality, the Office of the Chief of Navy Chaplains has decided that same-sex couples in the Navy will be able to get married in Navy chapels, and that Navy chaplains will be allowed to perform the ceremonies -- if homosexual marriage is legal in the state where the unions are to be performed.

The advisory came in the form of an April 13 memo issued to all chaplains, in which the Chief of Navy Chaplains, Admiral Michael Tidd, said the Chaplain Corps was revising its Tier I training manuals, which had previously indicated that same-sex marriages are not authorized on federal property.

Instead, Tidd called for chaplains to comply with service-wide efforts underway to be more accepting of homosexuality and same-sex marriage as the end of the military policy on homosexuality nears.

Citing "additional legal review" by Navy attorneys, the admiral said the Navy "has concluded that, generally speaking, base facility use is sexual orientation neutral.”

“If the base is located in a state where same-sex marriage is legal, then the base facilities may be used to celebrate the marriage,” the admiral’s directive states.

The admiral’s memo also gives chaplains permission to "marry" homosexual couples – but would not force them to perform ceremines.

“Regarding chaplain participation, consistent with the tenets of his or her religious organization, a chaplain may officiate a same-sex, civil marriage: if it is conducted in accordance with the laws of the state which permits same-sex marriages or union; and if the chaplain is, according to applicable state and local laws, otherwise fully certified to officiate that state’s marriages.”

Navy spokeswoman Alana Garas confirmed the change was ordered, but told CNSNews.com that the document “does not reflect a change in policy, but a change in Tier I training for Navy chaplains that looks forward to when Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is removed”— something which will not happen, she said, until 60 days after the president, the secretary of defense and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff certify to Congress that repeal will not harm military readiness.

But Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.), a member of the House Armed Services Committee, is concerned that, in its haste to “hustle-in homosexuality,” the Navy may be violating federal law – the Defense of Marriage Act.

“Offering up federal facilities and federal employees for same-sex marriage violates DOMA, which is still the law of the land and is bound to the duties of our military, including chaplains,” Steve Taylor, communications director for Akin, told CNSNews.com.

“The administration and various states may be operating as if DOMA doesn't exist, but the Navy and Marine Corps and all the Armed Services are sworn to obey the law, which this new instruction violates,” he added.

Tom McLusky, vice president of government relations at the Family Research Council, agreed that the Navy is totally ignoring DOMA, part of which defines marriage for federal government purposes as being between one man and one woman.

“You’re talking about government facilities and government employees, so it would seem to be a direct violation of DOMA,” McClusky told CNSNews.com. “I’m not seeing a lot of wiggle room there.”

He said conservatives had warned months ago that the push to repeal the military ban on homosexuality would lead to efforts to introduce same-sex marriage -- but were dismissed at the time.

“This is what we thought was going to happen, and unfortunately now its happening,” McClusky said.

“Unfortunately, the military is getting out in front on this issue and when you have a president who doesn’t believe the Defense of Marriage Act is a law he needs to follow, it’s no surprise that the military would follow his lead,” he added. “The president may think he’s above the law, but he’s not. If he has a problem with the Defense of Marriage Act, that’s something that he needs to address legislatively, not just by ignoring it.”

Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.), said the change in training was a “good example of the type of uncertainty and confusion created in the rush to change the previous policy.”

 “Trying to make sense of this issue, for example, is something that should have been thought out beforehand – assuming the administration was even serious about doing this efficiently, fairly and respectfully,” Hunter’s communications director Joe Kasper told CNSNews.com.

Hunter plans on offering an amendment to the annual defense bill to require that all of the chiefs of the armed services – not just the chairman -- would have to submit certification that removing the military ban on homosexuality wouldn’t harm unit cohesion and military order.

Four states plus the District of Columbia currently issue marriage licenses to homosexual couples – Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, New Hampshire, and Vermont. Maryland, New York and Rhode Island recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states.


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The slippery slope to hell gets steeper every day.
1 posted on 05/09/2011 6:16:06 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

There will be a bunch of chaplains resigning.


2 posted on 05/09/2011 6:18:58 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: markomalley

My head is spinning. I want to be proud of America again. I really do.


3 posted on 05/09/2011 6:19:29 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: markomalley

Does that mean if 2 Catholics want a same-sex wedding the chaplain-priest has to comply?


4 posted on 05/09/2011 6:19:40 AM PDT by AU72
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To: markomalley
You have gotta be shi---g me! I never though they would go that far. Our Military Services are going to become a laughing stock!

Mike

5 posted on 05/09/2011 6:20:09 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: markomalley

No surprise. You knew it was coming when they started going all PC and providing satanists worship places and chaplains.


6 posted on 05/09/2011 6:20:38 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: markomalley

This sickness only gets worse.


7 posted on 05/09/2011 6:20:54 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: markomalley

Soon they will open up recruitment of cabin boys - Ages 14-16. Shipmates about to take on an old Greek tradition!


8 posted on 05/09/2011 6:21:38 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Wealth = Net Worth ...........Income = Net Work!)
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To: markomalley

Our candidate for prez ought to promise to repeal the repeal.


9 posted on 05/09/2011 6:22:27 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: AU72

The way it was explained to me is that chaplains can still preach what they want, but they must be available to counsel everybody.


10 posted on 05/09/2011 6:23:09 AM PDT by chargers fan
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To: markomalley
The slippery slope to hell = the decadence of Western Civilization.

And, as you say, it continues to accelerate.

11 posted on 05/09/2011 6:24:09 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Truth is the first casualty of American journalism.)
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To: markomalley

This will hugely increase homo donation to the 0bama 2012 campaign. That’s what its all about.


12 posted on 05/09/2011 6:25:49 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: markomalley

Yo ho, blow the man down...


13 posted on 05/09/2011 6:26:15 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 838 of our national holiday from reality. - It's 3 AM, time to arrest Obama)
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To: chargers fan

Good, so if a gay couple went to a priest for counseling he can still tell them to make themselves right with God.


14 posted on 05/09/2011 6:28:13 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Gay donors fuel Obama's 2012 campaign
15 posted on 05/09/2011 6:28:17 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 838 of our national holiday from reality. - It's 3 AM, time to arrest Obama)
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To: yldstrk

One of the major goals of the Left, is to destroy the professional all-volunteer military, this is certainly the way to do it. To create an environment that discourages Patriotic Americans from wanting to serve.


16 posted on 05/09/2011 6:28:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: markomalley

The American Left — hollowing out the US military from within.


17 posted on 05/09/2011 6:29:41 AM PDT by libh8er
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18 posted on 05/09/2011 6:31:23 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: markomalley

This is what they need to push gay marriage on a federal level.


19 posted on 05/09/2011 6:36:48 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: markomalley
I saw this coming a long time ago; this is all about having gay marriage recognized at the federal level in order to subvert the authority of the states.

This is not about homosexuals being able to serve their country...they could do that under DADT. The military bureaucracy is going to be used as the wedge to force the states and the private sector to normalize gay marriage, provide full benefits to gay spouses and to more fully line the pockets of divorce attorneys once these *loving* unions go sour. If you oppose such things, you'll be told that you're some kind of ogre and that 'even the military recognizes gay marriage'.

20 posted on 05/09/2011 6:37:47 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: markomalley
Wow, since no one has posted this, I guess I will have to. Must I do everything myself ;)
21 posted on 05/09/2011 6:39:25 AM PDT by KC_Lion (America IS at War with itself, and no one seems to notice or care.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

LOL...beat me by 0:45 seconds!


22 posted on 05/09/2011 6:41:02 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: markomalley

Just how does this work since same sex marriages are not legal in every state?


23 posted on 05/09/2011 6:43:38 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: markomalley

Since only 4 States currently recognize same sex and we’re supposed to have a DOMA, wouldn’t the military be subverting a majority of U.S. Law?


24 posted on 05/09/2011 6:44:11 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: markomalley

Final line of the ceremony;

“Who wants fudge?”


25 posted on 05/09/2011 6:44:41 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: markomalley

That would be a desecration of a chapel, and desecration is forbidden. Satanists, for example, are not permitted to desecrate cross, communion, or bibles in military chapels.

Catholics, orthodox, and other Christian chaplain in the lineage of historic Christianity should request separate chapels, and should request of their denominations statements affirming that homosexual marriage inside their buildings would be a desecration.


26 posted on 05/09/2011 6:45:34 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: markomalley

This turns my stomach and I wonder what the HELL is going on the military these days?


27 posted on 05/09/2011 6:45:52 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: wagglebee

Beyond madness.


28 posted on 05/09/2011 6:50:26 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: zot; Interesting Times

ping


29 posted on 05/09/2011 6:52:53 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: wagglebee

Will they force chaplains to do this.


30 posted on 05/09/2011 6:52:53 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: stocksthatgoup

If only the Navy could get back their Philipino cabin boys none of this would happen. ;-)


31 posted on 05/09/2011 6:53:10 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: little jeremiah

stuff like this makes me think we are living in the last days of this age.


32 posted on 05/09/2011 6:53:22 AM PDT by rokkitapps
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To: kalee

The article says they can only perform the ceremony in states where gay marriage is legal.


33 posted on 05/09/2011 6:59:25 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: markomalley
Navy Authorizes Chaplains to Perform Same-Sex ‘Marriages’ in Naval Chapels

The Navy will only perform burial services according to the Koran, but will NOT perform Same Sex "marriages" according to the Koran. I say we get the ACLU working on this right away...

34 posted on 05/09/2011 7:01:48 AM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (It's 3 AM. Let me sleep on it. I'll get back to you in 16 hours.)
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To: yldstrk
There will be a bunch of chaplains resigning being forced to resign for standing up for normal moral Christian convictions which are in direct opposition to military policy.

I've repeated this often: Our chaplians will be demoted and even court martialed when they even dare to preach the fundamental thruths that homosexuality is a sin.

35 posted on 05/09/2011 7:05:49 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I'm a Birther - And a Deather)
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To: Siena Dreaming

I guess wasn’t very clear. Let’s say John and Joe marry on base in a state where it is legal, but are then stationed in a state where it is not, whose law prevails?
This looks like an end run around state laws by the feds.


36 posted on 05/09/2011 7:07:43 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: kalee

What about dependent ID cards will that vary from state to state?


37 posted on 05/09/2011 7:16:34 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: markomalley

can the skipper ‘marry’ two semens while underway ??? imagine the fireworks available and the honeymoon destinations offered...


38 posted on 05/09/2011 7:17:41 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: markomalley

“and that Navy chaplains will be allowed”

What if they refuse?


39 posted on 05/09/2011 7:21:18 AM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.hermancain.com/index.asp)
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To: ilovesarah2012
It's over - as far as accepting same sex marriage in the military the policy was sealed last Dec when the DEMS and the GOP gave the Obozo the repeal of DADT. Death to both political parties. It could have been filibustered.

Senate Repeals Ban Against Openly Gay Military Personnel
By a vote of 65 to 31, with eight Republicans joining Democrats, the Senate approved and sent to President Obama a repeal of the Clinton-era law, known as “don’t ask, don’t tell,” a policy critics said amounted to government-sanctioned discrimination that treated gay and lesbian troops as second-class citizens.


This is the day I knew I could not longer pray for the right course of action by the USA Government.
40 posted on 05/09/2011 7:22:38 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: MichaelP

That far?

Wait till you see straight men and women sued for sexual harrasment for turning down a sexual advance by a Homosexual.


41 posted on 05/09/2011 7:23:21 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: markomalley

Just flat out ignore the law. That is the SOP of this Obominstration and DemocRats.


42 posted on 05/09/2011 7:23:56 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: markomalley

This policy has the full support of the Navy’s Rear Admirals.


43 posted on 05/09/2011 7:29:31 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Barack was Mohammed's horse. Obama is a horse's back side.)
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To: markomalley

If a chaplain is a Christian ,who believes the Bible ought be taught -so opposes this national sin (embracing same sex sexual orientation) both as a Patriot and as a Christian chaplain. If they refuse to sanction the sin will the sinners then be allowed to sue the chaplain-and the Navy (Which is direction we are being led by the Progressives) Or will the Navy simply force out the Christians(As it seems want to do already)


44 posted on 05/09/2011 7:30:29 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Cheerio

Dems and Republicans - same


45 posted on 05/09/2011 7:36:58 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Responsibility2nd

Military Chaplains Face Court-martial for ‘Religious, Conscience’ Objection to Homosexual Conduct?

The U.S. Army has officially threatened military chaplains they must either embrace the new openly homosexual military, resign from service, or face court-martial for their “religious, conscience” objections. The Pray In Jesus Name Project has obtained leaked copies (unintended for media disclosure) of a private briefing given to chaplains, threatening them with court-martial unless they compromise their Christian message.

http://frstephensmuts.wordpress.com/2011/04/10/military-chaplains-face-court-martial-for-religious-conscience-objection-to-homosexual-conduct/


46 posted on 05/09/2011 7:40:15 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Responsibility2nd
Correct.

And I believe that was the plan all along. To the hardened Left, the enemy is Christianity.

Always was, and always will be.

47 posted on 05/09/2011 7:41:07 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: yldstrk

“There will be a bunch of chaplains resigning.”

Really? I don’t recall reading any stories about a Soldier, Sailor or Marine who has fallen on their sword over DADT. It seems folks are more interested in their retired pay than taking a risk and refusing to go along with this PC garbage.


48 posted on 05/09/2011 7:43:12 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Joe 6-pack

You are so right. And if they can get the most macho organization(s) of all - the military - to accept this crap then others will follow. Brilliant strategy by the left. Why can’t our side plot and scheme like this?


49 posted on 05/09/2011 7:56:13 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: markomalley
"The admiral’s memo also gives chaplains permission to "marry" homosexual couples – but would not force them to perform ceremines."

How long do you think this will last? Before long, they will be forced to do so. Incidentally, nice spelling on ceremonies there editor and writer.

So at the end of the sword line, who do you whack on the butt when it's two guys or two girls?
50 posted on 05/09/2011 7:58:12 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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