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Of Sorcerers and Magicians: The Lunacy in Iran
Conclub ^ | 05-07-11 | The Rat

Posted on 05/09/2011 8:33:30 PM PDT by TheConservativeCitizen

And we thought these guys couldn’t get any crazier?

While we’re all too familiar with the loony antics of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the zealotry of the ayatollahs, things have taken an extra screwy turn for the nut jobs in Iran. I know, you didn’t think these clowns could get any crazier. Me neither.

All is not well between President Mahmoud and Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei. As is the case with political power struggles in general, accusations and charges of undue influence abound. However, this battle has “crazy Iranians” written all over it: The supreme leader has accused our pal Mahmoud of using sorcerers and evil spirits to further his agenda.

Several of Mahmoud’s buddies have been arrested in recent days for using supernatural powers and invoking djinns (spirits) against the bearded cleric. The Iranian news website, Ayandeh, described one of the arrested “magicians” as a “a man with special skills in metaphysics and connections with the unknown worlds.” (Click on the link – it’s written in Persian, but check out the image on the right – it says it all.) You can’t make this stuff up.

The whole thing started when Khamenei reinstated an intelligence minister who had been sacked by Ahmadinejad. Mahmoud did what any good president would do; he staged an 11-day walkout to protest the ayatollah’s decree. You don’t suppose he was in touch with the Wisconsin Democratic legislators, do you?

At any rate, Mahmoud’s temper tantrum didn’t sit too well with the ayatollahs, who warned that the disobedient president might be impeached and exiled for his pouty behavior.

The feud went “Twilight Zone” shortly after the release of an Iranian “documentary”-produced by a pal of Mahmoud’s – on the imminent return of the Hidden Imam Mahdi. Ahmadinejad’s obsession with the hidden imam is well known; he claimed in a 2009 rant that the U.S. was trying to prevent Mahdi’s return. At any rate, the flick didn’t sit too well with the clerics, who claim the Mahdi’s return cannot be predicted.

So of course, as any film critic worth his weight in rial would do, the clerics accused the producer of sorcery and metaphysical mayhem. And you thought Roger Ebert was bad.

In an effort to root out the “deviant current” within Ahmadinejad’s inner circle, at least 25 people have been arrested since Mahmoud returned to work. At the minimum, perhaps the president will think twice before planning this summer’s family vacation.

The mere thought that there are people even crazier than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad “in control” of a country that is doing everything in its power to acquire nuclear weapons is a sobering thought indeed. Mahmoud, the ayatollahs, the sorcerers and the magicians are loonier than ever.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; iran; magic; mullahs

1 posted on 05/09/2011 8:33:33 PM PDT by TheConservativeCitizen
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Looks like the crossed eyed monkey is on the way out ... 12th imam an all.


2 posted on 05/09/2011 8:40:47 PM PDT by doc1019 (Palin/Bachmann, unbeatable.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

They’ve been this way forever. I shall have to treat you to an oldie but goodie (and don’t expect the links to work):

International Council of Aeorphysical Research
BEJING, CHINA — SPACE JEWS PROMOTE ZIONIST THREAT
by the International Council of Aeorphysical Research
(http://www.aearoresearch.ir)

The article was first printed in the Tehran Times on October 25, 2001.

BEJING, CHINA: China’s space agency on October 24 reported beta frequencies of high levels coming from Venus and another star constellation called Omega 9. These encrypted frequencies, which intelligence officials routinely call beta frequencies, were recently decrypted by an international council of scientists. The results showed a continual six minute stream of Zionist propaganda and pro-Jewish statements and proove the existence of inter stellar Zionist threats and the existence of space Jews.

In ancient Sumeria, the Ma’Idad tablets revealed a surprising clue to this new world threat: “The bani Israil shall come from the stars above where they have lived since eternity, hunting above you, in crafts made of iron, to teach you evil and of Shaiytan. Verily, the wise know that the aliens to come are from them” (al kitab al ma’Idad 22.3). The concept that there existed a race of space-Jews that were Zionist threats to the world is nothing new. The world famous philospopher Waqhid al Humra in the year 1236 wrote, “ The Zionist threat from the heavens in the form of alien Jews is part of the wisdom of the tablets, and this threat shall come forth to the world 875 years from this”.

Read the full text of al Humara here: http://www.arabia.com/alhumra/english/234l~h.htm. Read translations of the Al Maidad tablets here:http://www.arabia.com/almaidad/fulltext/tablet5-0-9.html.

It was not until October 24 that the world got its first evidence of the intelletar zionist jewish threat. Alein life has existed for centuries in many forms, but the existence of space Jews has only been documented by a few scientists. In 1945, during the end of World War II when the Zionist enemies had used extensive propaganda to create holohoax, the astronomer Zamir Rachman, a prominent astro physist, reported that beta waves from space Jews were being used to spread Zionist propaganda to the masses through a space aged technology that the CIA would soon claim as its own, molecular-neutrino hybridization (called MNH). See http://www.arabia.com/betafreq/index.html and http://www.zamasalad.net/spacejews/default.asp.

The process of MNH involves the beaming of beta frequencies into the temporal lobes of oppressed individuals thorugh psychological warefare to create a mind control enviornment. In theory, the beta frequencies broadcast from space Zionists and space Jews can be used for mind control purposes. Could these purposes be used to control the minds of say, Muhammad Atta and his friends? “It is highly possible that beta frequencies were used to mind control Muhammad Atta and other oppressed people” says Dr. Daud Zamash of the Aeorspace Research Council of Iran, an internationaly known and respected researcher (http://www.alzubad.org/iman/zamash887/idalslk.html)

The history of space Jews, which researchers call, “extra-terrestrial beta contanoids” (ETBC) has been known to most of the scientific world for many years. The CIA has been working with ETBC’s since the early 1930’s (http://zyed.corneria.com/adad/y6670909/uio.html) and using the beta frequencies to promote Zionist concepts to many people. The Jewish lobby and world Jewish congress, working together with the CIA and Mousad have housed many of these ETBC’s, some of which have been used on a hybrid plan for combining ETBC’s with human life.

Dr. Omar Wazim, an Iranian Chemist has postulated that the threat of ETBC’s is now both “realistic and frightening” (http://ummah.sagul.com/huie4/news/article43-09.htm). On September 11, 1999, a total of 4500 citizens from Tehran were mysteriously abducted and not seen again. This was reported in the Tehran Times by Abduallah Asad, who stated that the individuals bodies were never found. Most of those who were abducted were “kind people with strong faith, however, coming from poor economic conditions that were caused by Zionistic economic influence”. Read more about that incident here: http://wwww.tehrantimes.com/etbc.html.

“It is clear that the current beta frequencies are designed to wage war upon Islam and those who follow Quran and Sunnah” states Professor Muhammed Zan’ib of Tubingen University. The space Jews, which have many crafts and the now possible abiltity to shape change must unite all humanity towards resistance.


3 posted on 05/09/2011 8:43:15 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
Several of Mahmoud’s buddies have been arrested in recent days for using supernatural powers and invoking djinns (spirits)..

djinns (spirits), pronounced "Jenn" in Farsi, means "Goblins". Commonly known, in Persian/Farsi language, as "Jenn va Pari" (Goblin & Fairy) -- Harry Potter movies have been real popular in Iran..

4 posted on 05/09/2011 8:45:09 PM PDT by odds
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To: Hardraade

Maybe I shouldn’t have done that. Now Obongo will be searching frantically for Professor Muhammed Zan’ib of Tubingen University to get him on the staff...


5 posted on 05/09/2011 8:46:52 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
Several of Mahmoud’s buddies have been arrested in recent days for using supernatural powers and invoking djinns (spirits)

I'm astounded that anyone in the 21st Century could still believe in spirits and other mumbo-jumbo. Although given the culture in question, perhaps I shouldn't be.

6 posted on 05/09/2011 8:57:22 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Hardraade
“It is clear that the current beta frequencies are designed to wage war upon Islam and those who follow Quran and Sunnah” states Professor Muhammed Zan’ib of Tubingen University. The space Jews, which have many crafts and the now possible abiltity to shape change must unite all humanity towards resistance.

There must be something in the water in Tübingen. Isn't that where Hans Küng is from?

Cheers!

7 posted on 05/09/2011 9:27:26 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Quix
*PING*
8 posted on 05/09/2011 9:29:32 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Abin Sur
I'm astounded that anyone in the 21st Century could still believe in spirits and other mumbo-jumbo. Although given the culture in question, perhaps I shouldn't be.

How about Perfect Angels and Heavenly Bodies?

Cheers!

9 posted on 05/09/2011 9:31:43 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Goodness gracious, but that woman was hot. I've been a Barbara Eden fan ever since watching I Dream of Jeannie jump-started me into puberty.

Which of course brings up one of the great unresolved questions of our age: Who's more powerful...Jeannie or Samantha?

(I vote Jeannie)

10 posted on 05/09/2011 9:37:38 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur
I am a Christian. I believe in God, who is God the Father, God the Son who is Jesus, and God the Holy Spirit, all in one! I also believe in angels.

I also know there is a devil out there, satan is one of his names, and demons, which are fallen angels who follow after satan.

I can tell you beyond any doubt whatsoever, it is not mumbo-jumbo!! There is a real spirit world out there.

Maybe you could read the Holy Bible and you will see the truth in what I say?

11 posted on 05/09/2011 9:40:32 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Abin Sur
(I vote Jeannie)

Yes, especially because Dick York was far more whipped than Larry Hagman (and thus much less of a challenge).

Cheers!

12 posted on 05/09/2011 9:40:45 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
The feud went “Twilight Zone” shortly after the release of an Iranian “documentary”-produced by a pal of Mahmoud’s – on the imminent return of the Hidden Imam Mahdi. Ahmadinejad’s obsession with the hidden imam is well known; he claimed in a 2009 rant that the U.S. was trying to prevent Mahdi’s return. At any rate, the flick didn’t sit too well with the clerics, who claim the Mahdi’s return cannot be predicted.

So does this mean that BamBamKennedy and Arm-a-mean-jab have talked things out and we the US are no longer preventing the unveiling of the hiding Imam? I kinda feel like last week we the US entered a 'Twlight Zone'.

13 posted on 05/09/2011 9:46:58 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Abin Sur
I'm astounded that anyone in the 21st Century could still believe in spirits and other mumbo-jumbo. Although given the culture in question, perhaps I shouldn't be.

You're astounded?! So, am I.. I guess it isn't exactly "the Jedi" culture or believers as you put it in another FR thread: “In the 2001 New Zealand census, 1.5% of the population identified their religion as "Jedi"...a higher percentage than Buddhists, Hindus or Jews. -- While there’s a core of Jedi believers who take the whole thing rather seriously, the number of people reporting it as their religion has dropped quite a bit.

Are you from NZ?

14 posted on 05/09/2011 9:50:45 PM PDT by odds
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To: grey_whiskers

I was just watching the very first episode of I Dream of Jeannie. She spends about a quarter of the episode wearing nothing (apparently) but Major Nelson’s shirt. When he tells her in exasperation that he wishes that she’d take it off, she begins unbuttoning it right in front of him. And this was in 1965!


15 posted on 05/09/2011 9:55:44 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur
You watched TV with only one hand, I deem.

Cheers!

16 posted on 05/09/2011 10:00:22 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: odds

No, I just gave New Zealand as an example because they had the highest per capita reporting of "Jedi" as their religion at the time. It appears the joke has run its course, though...I doubt very much that the Jedi faith will show up in any appreciable numbers in future censuses.

17 posted on 05/09/2011 10:00:27 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: rawhide
I am a Christian. I believe in God, who is God the Father, God the Son who is Jesus, and God the Holy Spirit, all in one! I also believe in angels.

I also know there is a devil out there, satan is one of his names, and demons, which are fallen angels who follow after satan.

I can tell you beyond any doubt whatsoever, it is not mumbo-jumbo!! There is a real spirit world out there.

Well, unlike Iran this is a (relatively) free country...so you're free to believe (or not) as you wish!

Maybe you could read the Holy Bible

I already have. Granted, it was about 30 years ago...

and you will see the truth in what I say?

I have not.

18 posted on 05/09/2011 10:09:11 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: grey_whiskers

:-)


19 posted on 05/09/2011 10:10:05 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur

Joke may well be & jokes aren’t presented w/out some truth to them.

To date, even some Christian celebrations, rituals, and beliefs (symbolically or otherwise) are to an extent mixed with & incorporate pagan ones from their ancestors/predecessors. They may not be part of the theology, but certainly part of the culture & values. Actually, IMO, all major Abrahamic religions have done so to some degree, accepting ex-pagan elements as part of the core of their culture.


20 posted on 05/09/2011 10:22:20 PM PDT by odds
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To: odds

Sure, religions certainly evolve over time. In the case of Jedi adherents, I think they take their religion only slightly more seriously than the Pastafarians do the Flying Spaghetti Monster.


21 posted on 05/09/2011 10:40:11 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur

oic, may the Flying Spaghetti force be with us all!


22 posted on 05/09/2011 10:45:08 PM PDT by odds
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To: odds

Oh bless his noodily appendeges and his life affirming
sauce. Manga.


23 posted on 05/09/2011 10:56:48 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Hardraade

OMG it’s the alien JOOOOS!


24 posted on 05/09/2011 11:02:05 PM PDT by melsec
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To: grey_whiskers

THX THX

HMMMMMM


25 posted on 05/09/2011 11:15:32 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Abin Sur

Avast, me heartie! Take heed...there be more pirate attacks as the global temperature has decreased o’er the past decade. Arrr...’tis proof of pirates divine influence!


26 posted on 05/10/2011 1:12:02 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Hardraade
The results showed a continual six minute stream of Zionist propaganda and pro-Jewish statements and proove the existence of inter stellar Zionist threats and the existence of space Jews.

These guys, along with Farrakhan, are smoking some strong stuff!


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27 posted on 05/10/2011 2:01:06 AM PDT by rdb3 (Knowledge without God only produces intellectual barbarians.)
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Of course, there is no such professor at Tübingen University.

The Iranians just love to make up this kind of stuff and cite supposed foreign research as "proof."

You'll love this YouTube clip about The Fly, which carries desease on one wing and the cure on the other:

The Fly According To Muslims

28 posted on 05/10/2011 2:29:29 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: tet68
My niece tells me too bad Jimmy Dean had his appendages & the rest of him accidentally destroyed. I agree, though his ear looks kinda crooked in this pic!

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29 posted on 05/10/2011 4:04:04 AM PDT by odds
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To: Moltke

The Fly is priceless. I have the text from earlier when they had this islamic science site up, but never saw it with an actual “lecturer”. Great stuff :).


30 posted on 05/10/2011 5:45:04 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Abin Sur

Well, sorry about that.

The truth is in the Bible. You might want to read it again and ask God to show you as you read. Put Him to a test, with a honest and sincere heart, and He will reveal it to you.


31 posted on 05/10/2011 6:13:23 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: odds
Actually, IMO, all major Abrahamic religions have done so to some degree, accepting ex-pagan elements as part of the core of their culture.

I don't know. In the transition to a monolithic God, from paganism (rocks, ancestors, animals, whatever multi-gods) it's kind of difficult to pin down the pagan baggage.

On the other hand, after the Torah and on to the convenient new testament, you may argue that the pagan elements are being baked right back in.

32 posted on 05/10/2011 6:28:13 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Abin Sur; grey_whiskers

***I was just watching the very first episode of I Dream of Jeannie.***

Ah Barbra Eden! I first saw her in VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA and immediatly fell in lust with her.

Then came some movie with Tony Randall, Burl Ives (as a genie).I Believe it was called THE BRASS BOTTLE, then came THE CIRCUS OF DR LO.

Plus a few made for tv movies in the 1970s.

Ah, Jeanie, Jeanie!


33 posted on 05/10/2011 6:48:14 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: rawhide
Well, sorry about that.

There's certainly no need to be!

The truth is in the Bible. You might want to read it again and ask God to show you as you read. Put Him to a test, with a honest and sincere heart, and He will reveal it to you.

Actually, I did honestly and sincerely asked Christ to be my savior when I was younger (around 10 or so). Since I was a child, I believed what I'd been told in Sunday School. After praying I felt, well...nothing. As I grew up my interest in science showed me that everything was subject to scrutiny, and that nothing should be taken on faith. By the time I was an adult I was agnostic, and later drifted into atheism.

Bear in mind that I don't *know* that there isn't a God...can't prove a negative and all that...but I see no reason to believe that there is, nor in anything supernatural for that matter.

34 posted on 05/10/2011 7:19:45 AM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: grey_whiskers

“How about Perfect Angels and Heavenly Bodies?”

That picture certainly made a believer out of me! Yowza!


35 posted on 05/10/2011 11:21:47 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: grey_whiskers
There must be something in the water in Tübingen. Isn't that where Hans Küng is from?

Why, yes it is! :)

36 posted on 05/10/2011 1:21:02 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Abin Sur
Reading the Bible has increased my belief in God. If you never read the Bible, then I can understand why you might not believe or even want to believe.

Early in my life I just knew there had to be a God. I just knew something had to bring this world into existence. I was searching for the true God, not just a man-made religion to tickle my senses. And I found God from the Bible.

Reading in the Bible, I came to know I was a sinner, separated from God, but God loves me, and he showed this by sending His son Jesus to die for my sins on the cross, to save me from hell where I was headed, and to give to me eternal life in heaven. By repentance, I could receive God's forgiveness of my sins. So I repented of my sins, ask Jesus to forgive me and to become my Lord and Savior, and by faith, I truly believe he has saved me. It is nothing that I am or have done, but only by faith he has saved me.

To sum it up, I took God at his word.

And you know, he just didn't forgive me and give me eternal life, but he brought real meaning into my life. There is peace and security in my life. Am I perfect? No way! But my heart's desire is to live for God and to please God with all my life, every day.

If I may, may I suggest you give God another chance to speak to you by reading the Bible. May I suggest a book in the Bible that pretty much explains it all---The Gospel of John.

With that being said, I want you to know that I prayed for you earlier today. I also asked God to give me the words to write to you in this post, so here they are. God bless you! And God really does love you! There is no doubt in my mind about that. Take care.

37 posted on 05/10/2011 2:34:56 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Maybe they’ll blow themselves up, and then we won’t have to worry about them anymore.


38 posted on 05/10/2011 4:47:55 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: rawhide
Reading the Bible has increased my belief in God. If you never read the Bible, then I can understand why you might not believe or even want to believe.

Actually I have read the Bible, as I pointed out in post #18 of this thread.

Early in my life I just knew there had to be a God. I just knew something had to bring this world into existence.

I've never known that there was a God. Oh, I was told so as a child and believed accordingly at the time...but it didn't *know* it in the manner you've described.

And you know, he just didn't forgive me and give me eternal life, but he brought real meaning into my life. There is peace and security in my life. Am I perfect? No way! But my heart's desire is to live for God and to please God with all my life, every day.

I wouldn't deny for a moment the Christianity brings meaning and joy to millions of people. It's a very powerful meme. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme#Religion

With that being said, I want you to know that I prayed for you earlier today.

Thank you, and I mean that sincerely.

I also asked God to give me the words to write to you in this post, so here they are.

Hm...I can understand your not noticing my earlier post where I pointed out that I've already read the Bible...we're all only human, after all...but you'd think God would have noticed and not made the same error when He told you what words to write, given the whole omniscience thingy :-)

39 posted on 05/10/2011 5:55:23 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

thanks Hardraade. Check it out:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2717546/posts?page=3#3


40 posted on 05/13/2011 6:49:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SunkenCiv; Hardraade; TheOldLady; Girlene; Silentgypsy
proove the existence of inter stellar Zionist threats and the existence of space Jews

I got more bad news for the islamonuts.


41 posted on 05/13/2011 7:01:32 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me...Make Me Write Bad Checks)
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To: bigheadfred

Every time I think I’ve heard it all, something even goofier surfaces.


42 posted on 05/14/2011 7:58:58 PM PDT by Silentgypsy
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