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How Waterboarding Breaks You: An O'Reilly Factor Exposť
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Posted on 05/10/2011 8:07:41 AM PDT by ventanax5

In this O'Reilly Factor exposé Marc Thiessen, the former chief speechwriter for President Bush, explains the enhanced interrogation methods used to start the chain of events which eventually lead to the death of Usama bin Laden. While most people believe that these methods are used to extract information, Thiessen explains that enhanced interrogations are used to create a more cooperative environment. After the subject is broken, interrogators can then start to extract the desired information, sometimes as simply as having a conversation with the person.

BILL O'REILLY, HOST: Now for the top story tonight: an inside look at how the coerced interrogation worked in the bin Laden case. As you may know, only three captured terrorists were waterboarded, all Al Qaeda big shots and, again, the information they provided has been vital in defeating the terrorist group.

Joining us now from Washington, Marc Thiessen, the former chief speechwriter for President Bush, who had access to the intelligence on this subject that the president had. Now, I want to set this up. The president asked you to write a speech on coerced interrogation. You also use the information to write a book called "Courting Disaster." Is that correct?

MARC THIESSEN, FORMER CHIEF SPEECHWRITER FOR PRESIDENT BUSH: That is absolutely correct, yes.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: billoreilly; bush; interrogation; jihad; ksm; obama; obl; waterboarding; wot

1 posted on 05/10/2011 8:07:42 AM PDT by ventanax5
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To: ventanax5
Marc Thiessen seems to be one of the very few decent people that came out that Bush administration. He is really solid in his info on these topics. Too bad the rest of them like Rove couldn't be as constructive. As for BOR, he is still a dope.


2 posted on 05/10/2011 8:12:31 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: ventanax5

“enhanced interrogation methods” is to torture as ‘choice’ is to abortion. It’s more sales ready.


3 posted on 05/10/2011 8:33:34 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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I’m sure that’s what it sounds like to some. But that’s not true, yet. If we knew how to define torture, the case might be argued; but while we’re defining torture down, there’s absolutely no way to determine whether or not enhanced interrogation is torture. Juan Williams continuously straw-mans on this issue, citing eye-gouging and fingernail extracting. That’s torture. Waterboarding, sleep-depriving, slaps-in-the-face, bland meals, etc., would not have qualified as torture even 25 years ago and can’t qualify as torture today, if the word continues to have meaning.


4 posted on 05/10/2011 9:02:03 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: ventanax5
Another aspect totally missed is that the integration was used to get fast information. Every second that is lost trying to play mister good guy another serviceman could be killed. War is a game of time and how effective we can detect the next kill by the enemy means live saved.
5 posted on 05/10/2011 9:14:07 AM PDT by Logical me
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Of course it creates a more cooperative environment...most people will become more cooperative when they think you’re going to drown them.


6 posted on 05/10/2011 9:33:07 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: ventanax5

I’d like to see him do an expose’ on how being doused with jet fuel and falling 1200’ kills you


7 posted on 05/10/2011 9:37:52 AM PDT by Justa
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I’d like to see him do an expose’ on how being doused with jet fuel and falling 1200’ kills you


8 posted on 05/10/2011 9:38:05 AM PDT by Justa
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To: ex-snook
“enhanced interrogation methods” is to torture as ‘choice’ is to abortion. It’s more sales ready.

On a continuum that has sleep deprivation and waterboarding on one end, and applying a blowtorch to your scrotum at the other end, "enhanced interrogation methods” can be used to describe methods that produce discomfort, but no lasting or permanent bodily damage.

9 posted on 05/10/2011 9:51:52 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: ventanax5

I could care less if they nailed a terrorist nuts to a table and sets the room on fire and wait until you get answers,just get answers.


10 posted on 05/10/2011 10:06:21 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Logical me

One major point that nobody’s making: Hassan Ghul was CAPTURED IN IRAQ!!!!! In 2004!!!!!

So, the key to the eventual capture of OBL was captured in a country that Obama would never have gone to war with, and the information they got from him was extracted using interrogation techniques that Obama never would have authorized.

Somehow, this is supposed to make us admire his courage and leadership.


11 posted on 05/10/2011 11:00:44 AM PDT by RightFighter (Now back to my war station.)
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Somehow, this is supposed to make us admire his courage and leadership.

According to the Democrats/media, if one is a Democrat they are brilliant, courageous, and charismatic, a natural leader. If a Republican, dumb, corrupt, a cowboy, and hates women, children and the elderly. Those are givens.

12 posted on 05/10/2011 1:04:21 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (I retain the right to be inconsistent, contradictory and even flat-out wrong!)
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To: Vaduz

I’m with you. I’ll even volunteer to donate my carpenter skills with an estwing.


13 posted on 05/10/2011 1:10:07 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (No animal commerce on the open forums.)
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To: ventanax5

I remember this guy from when he was a guest on Dennis Prager’s show a year or so ago, and he was saying basically yhe same thing; how KSM gave us a graduate-level course on Al Qaeda operations.

And the key point is that the enhanced interrogation wasn’t used to get information, it was used to get him to cooperate. Once he had resisted the interrogation techniques to his utmost, to where he could honestly say that he had resisted as much as he could, then according to his religious beliefs it was then OK for him to cooperate with us and give us anything we wanted.

So we knew very little about how Al Qaeda worked before then, and he gave us a ton of valuable information, and it wouldn’t have been possible had he not been waterboarded.


14 posted on 05/10/2011 7:01:44 PM PDT by Cymbaline ("Allahu Akbar": Arabic for "Nothing To See Here" - Mark Steyn)
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