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Gov. John Kasich says federal workers have 'zippo, zero' ability to collectively bargain
Politifact.com ^ | May 11, 2011 | Politifact

Posted on 05/11/2011 8:06:53 AM PDT by Poundstone

Equity among workers is one of Republican Gov. John Kasich’s most consistent arguments in favor of Ohio’s new collective bargaining law.

The law, Senate Bill 5, will bring Ohio’s public workers closer in line with private sector workers, who, on average, pay more for health care benefits and have weaker pensions, Kasich repeatedly has said.

Now the governor is weaving collective bargaining for federal workers – or lack thereof – into his support for the law.

Even though SB 5 restricts collective bargaining for the state’s 360,000 public workers, they would still be better off than federal workers, Kasich recently told a Youngstown radio show.

"Two million federal workers negotiate zippo, zero," Kasich told radio host Dan Rivers on April 26 when discussing SB 5. "There is no collective bargaining for federal employees."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benefits; employees; federal; goonyans; government; kasich; union; unions

1 posted on 05/11/2011 8:06:58 AM PDT by Poundstone
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To: Poundstone

Kasich’s assertion is actually quite true: federal government employees have practically no collective bargaining rights, unlike many state and local workers. Yet another big difference between federal workers and the state/local sector.


2 posted on 05/11/2011 8:08:09 AM PDT by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: Poundstone

Good. That makes it easier to fire you leeches.


3 posted on 05/11/2011 8:12:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Poundstone
Equity among workers is one of Republican Gov. John Kasich’s most consistent arguments in favor of Ohio’s new collective bargaining law.

Equality?

4 posted on 05/11/2011 8:13:50 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Poundstone
Several things federal workers don't have ~ (1) Collective bargaining, (2) Inalienable pensions (you commit a crime in the private sector you get to keep your pensions and other assets ~ you do that in the federal government you can lose it all), (3) Patent rights ~ federal government agencies argue that ANYTHING you invent on your own time is theirs. They have over 100,000 lawyers to go to court against you.

I could go on and on and on.

The one big benefit you have is a COLA for your pension when you retire ~ Unless, of course, you get a Far Leftwingtard like Obama in charge and he says NO COLA. We are headed into the third year with NO COLA ~ even though COLA was part of the deal for working for them.

You can't trust the Left. They always lie.

5 posted on 05/11/2011 8:14:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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6 posted on 05/11/2011 8:18:34 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: muawiyah
Patent rights ~ federal government agencies argue that ANYTHING you invent on your own time is theirs.

That's also the case in corporate America. I had to sign papers to that effect when I was hired.

7 posted on 05/11/2011 8:23:26 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: cripplecreek

Good. That makes it easier to fire you leeches.

If it was not for the federal government, the states would fail big time. We still have to send Alaska for example more money then they send to Washington because the state for whatever reason cannot make it. Many states are like this. So get rid of federal workers and the federal government and many states will fall apart. We will not exist as the United States of America. And don’t tell me that crap about how you would love for the United States to fall apart because I don’t believe any real America really wants that.


8 posted on 05/11/2011 8:33:24 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

Big labor blow jobs don’t impress me boy.


9 posted on 05/11/2011 8:36:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

Big labor blow jobs don’t impress me boy.

Your nonsense does not impress me slut.


10 posted on 05/11/2011 8:38:56 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
We still have to send Alaska for example more money then they send to Washington because the state for whatever reason cannot make it.

I don't know for certain but I suspect the fact that Washington owns 95% of the land in Alaska may have something to do with that.

11 posted on 05/11/2011 8:39:05 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: napscoordinator

I’m not the pathetic coward who equates America with government parasites.


12 posted on 05/11/2011 8:40:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: buccaneer81
Alas, federal government employees DO NOT SIGN SUCH AN AGREEMENT and there is no law requiring it.

They just steal our patentable ideas ~ which is why you won't find federal government employees doing much in the way of new ideas or patents until they retiree.

It's a real smart public policy ~ they should find the guys who came up with it and put them on the rack and stretch them until their joints pop. Then make them really, really hurt!

13 posted on 05/11/2011 8:43:17 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeeSharp

A beautiful example of why America is in such bad shape.


14 posted on 05/11/2011 8:43:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SeeSharp

The state of Alaska does quite well on its own, but the largest landowner in the state is shiftless and no-count.


15 posted on 05/11/2011 8:44:36 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

A shiftless and no-count landowner that sits on massive oil reserves that they refuse to utilize and actually make some money from.

Easier to drill taxpayers than to drill rock.


16 posted on 05/11/2011 8:50:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: buccaneer81
My wife's a research chemist, with a dual role in scale-up, process development, and optimization in the field. She has over 18 US EU patents on novel chemistry and aparatus. With one exception every company has treated her like gold. The one which was a bad experience was European owned, expected employees to act unethically regarding intellectual property, and was extremely progressive and socialist in it's views. Whenever they needed cash, the government would just buy bonds and stocks. (Finland)

I hate to think of what's happenning to GM's intellectual property..................

17 posted on 05/11/2011 9:24:54 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: blackdog

That Finnish company sounds very much like the German corporation I work for.


18 posted on 05/11/2011 9:29:18 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

My wife worked for a big German one and had nothing but wonderful experiences. But that was 15 years ago.


19 posted on 05/11/2011 9:32:06 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: cripplecreek

Easier to drill taxpayers than to drill rock.

I’m borrowing that if ya don’t mind..........


20 posted on 05/11/2011 9:33:46 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Poundstone

He needs to tell that to the several thousand that work for TVA and are members of the IBEW. (to be fair, I’m fond of most of the people, but certainly not fond of the union).


21 posted on 05/11/2011 9:36:05 AM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Poundstone
I don't think collective bargaining should be allowed in any public sector job because those who pay (taxpayer) are not at the table and those who vote on the agreement (politician) can be (are) bought by unions. It is impossible to negotiate in good faith when the process is broken. That being said, should the Federal government be telling States what to do? For sure the Federal government should tell States that if they make an ugly bed, they sleep in it (no bailouts).
22 posted on 05/11/2011 9:39:19 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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