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Porsche Japan to Begin Accepting Orders for 918 Spyder PHEV
TechON! ^ | 05-06-2011 | Motohiko Hamada, Nikkei Automotive Technology

Posted on 05/11/2011 1:06:14 PM PDT by Red Badger

Porsche Japan KK will start accepting orders for its "918 Spyder" plug-in hybrid vehicle (PHEV) May 13, 2011, in Japan.

It will start production of the PHEV Sept 18, 2013, and shipment in November 2013. The company will produce 918 units of the vehicle and ship them in the order of orders received. The vehicle will be completed at the Zuffenhausen Plant in Stuttgart, Germany.

The 918 Spyder is a two-seated vehicle having a monocoque structure made of CFRP (carbon fiber reinforced plastic) and will be sold at a price of 684,800 euro (approx US$997,548).

The displacement of its V-8 engine mounted on the midship is 4L or more, and its maximum output is 368W (500PS) or higher. The rear wheels of the vehicle are driven by a seven-speed DCT (dual clutch transmission).

The two motors attached to the front and rear axles generate an output of 160kW (218PS) or more in total. The 918 Spyder is a four-wheel-drive car that can change the ratio of drive forces used for the front and rear axles.

The PHEV comes with a water-cooled lithium-ion (Li-ion) rechargeable battery that can be charged using household power outlet. In the EV mode, its maximum speed and drive range are 150km/h and 25km or longer (NEDC), respectively. Its charging time differs depending on country but is about three hours in Germany.

The fuel consumption of the PHEV in the hybrid mode is 3.0L/100km (NEDC), which is 70g/km in terms of CO2 emissions. Its speed increases from 0km/h to 100km/h in less than 3.2 seconds. The maximum speed is 320km/h or higher. Because the vehicle is expected to lap the Nurburgring North circuit in seven minutes and 30 seconds, it is faster than the Carrera GT (seven minutes and 32 seconds).


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Germany; Japan
KEYWORDS: automobile; electric; pluginhybrid


1 posted on 05/11/2011 1:06:20 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; sausageseller; ...

Plug-In Electric Porsche Ping!.............


2 posted on 05/11/2011 1:07:32 PM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven............)
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To: Red Badger

Great, a coal-powered Porsche...


3 posted on 05/11/2011 1:08:10 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

It’ll look great sitting on the side of the road when the battery dies................


4 posted on 05/11/2011 1:09:51 PM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven............)
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To: Red Badger

You missed the V8 and “hybrid” part ;)


5 posted on 05/11/2011 1:14:05 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Red Badger

Who would spend that kinda money on a car and be unable to rev the engine??


6 posted on 05/11/2011 1:14:58 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Red Badger

Damn they make some amazing machines. My three year old looking over my shoulder just told me, daddy, you should get that car!

I love the old 78 to 84 911s. Had many of them. Too old and, um, ‘stocky’, to drive them these days though.


7 posted on 05/11/2011 1:18:39 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward

I always wanted a 911 of that vintage.

Had to settle for a 914. (please don’t say it...)


8 posted on 05/11/2011 1:21:17 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: driftdiver

Algore............


9 posted on 05/11/2011 1:22:40 PM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven............)
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To: Red Badger

In the EV mode, its maximum speed and drive range are 150km/h and 25km or longer (NEDC), respectively.

That’s a whopping 15.6 miles! Not that difficult to literally outrun the police who are in those cars.


10 posted on 05/11/2011 1:30:05 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Red Badger
Porsche is one of very few automakers to examine hybrid-electric powertrains from a performance perspective, vice economy or conservation. The 918 is designed to leverage the instantaneous torque available from electric motors, paired with the efficiency and high specific output of the IC engine. It's a novel approach that attempts to combine the best of both technologies.

This is not a "green" hybrid, this car makes no apologies and will make your 650hp V12 Murcielago slow.

11 posted on 05/11/2011 1:31:00 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Red Badger

Nice car, but for US$997,548 I can get about fifty Honda Civics.


12 posted on 05/11/2011 1:33:18 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (e)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
That’s a whopping 15.6 miles! Not that difficult to literally outrun the police who are in those cars.

Maybe in your F1 car.

The maximum speed is 320km/h or higher.

Nobody will drive this car in "EV mode".

13 posted on 05/11/2011 1:37:16 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
No, I wont. It's still a Porsche. And you knew it every time you got it serviced, right?

I had a 916 too. This is the only pic I have of it, taken by the guy at Photobuys in LA when I listed it for sale...

14 posted on 05/11/2011 1:39:51 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: xsrdx

When I look at the higher-end “hybrid” vehicles, this is what I see: manufacturers are using the “hybrid” label to burnish their “green cred,” but the reality is that they’re creating vehicles with higher net street performance than possible with IC’s and conventional transmissions alone.

The wonderful thing about electric motors is that they can be set up to deliver HUGE amounts of torque into a stalled load and they have the ability to reach higher ultimate RPM’s than IC’s. The result is that a “hybrid” muscle car can be faster off the line, faster to 100kph (or 60 MPH) and then brake quicker as they dump in the regenerative braking on all four wheels.

The tofu-nibblers will start complaining soon...


15 posted on 05/11/2011 1:41:33 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: xsrdx

I think the Jap cops used to have Porsche 959s 20 years ago but they were kind of useless because the cops were not encouraged to engage in high speed pursuits for fear of causing accidents.

You can get a Suzuki GSX1300R Hyabusa motorcycle off the showroom floor that’ll do 190mph (308.75kmh).


16 posted on 05/11/2011 1:43:24 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Still have my 1974 914. Mine has the 1.8L fuel injected 4 cylinder engine. The original engine was the 2.0L with a carb. The engine from my car was put into a "shell" that was more nearly ready for slalom competition. Mine is plenty perky for that purpose. I need to replace the rear mag wheels. The "bead" surface has corroded resulting in a slow leak of pressure. I've made some hard left turns at 45 MPH that plastered my passenger to the door. I avoid doing a right turn that way as I would have "company" in the driver's seat.

Lately, I prefer staying on 2 wheels for canyon carving, peg scraping kinds of riding. I would love to get some track time to try out the knee dragging turns. Getting a bit old for that kind of stuff :-(

17 posted on 05/11/2011 1:46:05 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Red Badger
And it'll only set you back a MILLION simolians. Inflated simolians, yes, but... holy crap.

Trust me friend, I'd take back the Bad Old Days of hyper-hydrocarbon-pumping excess in a New York minute. Back in '75, a 911 turbo could be had for 15 grand, fully loaded and with a growling power plant that would pin you back in the seat like a rack of ribs and peel the lids from your eyes barely 1/2 second after letting out the clutch and stomping on the pedal.

That, a cassette tape of Led Zeppelin, a bottle of cheap wine, and a fine-looking woman next to you - was what freedom - and America - was all about.

18 posted on 05/11/2011 1:48:54 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: NVDave
The wonderful thing about electric motors is that they can be set up to deliver HUGE amounts of torque into a stalled load and they have the ability to reach higher ultimate RPM’s than IC’s. The result is that a “hybrid” muscle car can be faster off the line, faster to 100kph (or 60 MPH) and then brake quicker as they dump in the regenerative braking on all four wheels.

As well as instantaneous response and adjustment based on input from a wide array of adhesion sensors - traction and stability control will be increasingly seamless. This will make the car much faster in the hands of the less skilled, but will hopefully be configurable enough to keep the skilled operator entertained.

19 posted on 05/11/2011 1:49:25 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Back in '75, a 911 turbo could be had for 15 grand, fully loaded and with a growling power plant that would pin you back in the seat like a rack of ribs and peel the lids from your eyes barely 1/2 second after letting out the clutch and stomping on the pedal.

The Porsche 911 - 45 years spent improving a bad idea. =)

20 posted on 05/11/2011 1:53:05 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: xsrdx
The Porsche 911 - 45 years spent improving a bad idea. =)

Ah, I see that Jeremy Clarkson has joined the discussion.

;-)

21 posted on 05/11/2011 2:18:33 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Red Badger

If I could afford the car, I wouldn’t be worried about the price of gasoline and would just as soon not be hauling around the extra weight of those electric motors and battery.


22 posted on 05/11/2011 2:25:17 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: NVDave

Exactly! All the “green” folderol about hybrids is pure moonbeams and marshmallow. The stark truth is that immediate access to massive gobs of torque is absolutely essential in certain high performance situations. Just ask anyone who has driven the toe of the boot at the Glen.


23 posted on 05/11/2011 2:33:01 PM PDT by beyond the wire
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To: Red Badger

I saw the 918 driving at the Pebble Beach Concourse. I made this clip of it, with notations of the special hybrid features. I touched it, etc. Arnold was there, and drove it a little. I set the clip to a James Bond song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXuu88e8JAM

The clip also features lots of amazing cars


24 posted on 05/11/2011 2:34:49 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: xsrdx
The Porsche 911 - 45 years spent improving a bad idea. =)

Heh, heh. Well, you can say what you want, but there are a lot of us old-timers whose fondest memories are composed in equal parts of German-engineered torque, American summer heat, timeless rock-and-roll, and the sweet perfume of barely-dressed women in the soft glow of a midnight moon.

25 posted on 05/11/2011 2:48:38 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Myrddin

It is my humble opinion, if you really want to go, get a souped up motorcycle. I recall dusting off a couple of 911 with a Triumph Bonnie many years ago. Not Chevie SS though.


26 posted on 05/11/2011 2:51:26 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: Red Badger

That is a beautiful car.

My back of the envelope calculations show that I would need to drive from here to the Sun and back 11 times though to save enough gas to make up the $950,000.00 in gas savings over my current vehicle ...


27 posted on 05/11/2011 3:06:42 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Heh, heh. Well, you can say what you want, but there are a lot of us old-timers whose fondest memories are composed in equal parts of German-engineered torque, American summer heat, timeless rock-and-roll, and the sweet perfume of barely-dressed women in the soft glow of a midnight moon.

Ok, name that movie trivia: "Porsche: Too Small to Have Sex in, but You Will as Soon as You Get Out".
28 posted on 05/11/2011 3:10:26 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: andy58-in-nh
Heh, heh. Well, you can say what you want, but there are a lot of us old-timers whose fondest memories are composed in equal parts of German-engineered torque, American summer heat, timeless rock-and-roll, and the sweet perfume of barely-dressed women in the soft glow of a midnight moon.

Actually the tagline goes, "911 Turbo - 35 years of improving a bad idea" which I found pretty hilarious considering the reputation of the pre-AWD models.

In any case, the world would be far duller without the 911.

29 posted on 05/11/2011 3:21:58 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Red Badger

$997,548? Will they throw in mudflaps? For that price, you ought to get the mudflaps for nothin’.


30 posted on 05/11/2011 3:27:11 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: smokingfrog
If I could afford the car, I wouldn’t be worried about the price of gasoline and would just as soon not be hauling around the extra weight of those electric motors and battery.

It's not about saving gas - those electric motors make it a faster car.

31 posted on 05/11/2011 3:27:19 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: tanknetter
Ok, name that movie trivia: "Porsche: Too Small to Have Sex in, but You Will as Soon as You Get Out".

For a second, I thought that might be about a Subaru, but on reflection I think it was that movie where Dudley Moore was an advertising executive trying to save his career by coming up with slogans based on truth instead of fiction ("Come in the Bahamas...") Can't recall the name of the film...

32 posted on 05/11/2011 3:51:32 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
A Yamaha V-Max will go faster than most folks dare...about 140 MPH. One of my co-workers took his Suzuki GSX-R1000 to 169 MPH...about 10 MPH shy of the claimed top speed of 179 MPH. A Bonneville tops out around 110 MPH. My 1200cc Harley Roadster tops at 115 MPH. All faster than sane people should ever travel on a public road.
33 posted on 05/11/2011 3:56:41 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Tijeras_Slim; moehoward
I had a '63 356B, and a '73 914-6... until I got married, wife had baby, and we bought an Olds Custom Cruiser. I wanted a 911 Targa.

I keep telling myself that I'll get another Porsche, but the only likely candidate is more than I want to spend. I don't go that fast these days, and racing is out of the question! I've thought about a VW Toureg SUV with the 10 cylinder TDI. 560 ft/lbs of torque, and way too much capability. Yet, it's $28k less than a Porsche Cayenne Turbo.

I'll probably just keep my Ford Exploder until it dies...

34 posted on 05/11/2011 5:22:47 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Praise God from Whom all blessings flow!)
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To: xsrdx

I just spent a week driving the 911 turbo S. My Gawd, what a car!
530 horses, yet heated seats and automatic headlights cost extra.
Still, if I could afford it - and was ready for a divorce - I’d buy it tomorrow!

Cheers,
Jim


35 posted on 05/11/2011 9:00:33 PM PDT by gymbeau (Free Tibet! (Limit two per customer))
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To: WVKayaker
"I had a '63 356B, and a '73 914-6... until I got married, wife had baby, and we bought an Olds Custom Cruiser. I wanted a 911 Targa."

Shoulda kept that 356! It had the same style jump seats the 911 has, and they are perfect for kids.

36 posted on 05/11/2011 9:55:25 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: andy58-in-nh
"..but there are a lot of us old-timers whose fondest memories are composed in equal parts of German-engineered torque, American summer heat, timeless rock-and-roll, and the sweet perfume of barely-dressed women in the soft glow of a midnight moon."

Sitting here grinning thinking about which girl and which car....

37 posted on 05/11/2011 10:08:56 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward

“Sitting here grinning thinking about which girl and which car....”

The 57 Corvette I met my wife with when we won the SCCA race at Santa Barbara.

I married her in 58.


38 posted on 05/11/2011 10:17:23 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed; Kenny Bunk

All I can say, gentlemen, is that there IS a way to make love in a Triumph Spitfire in a raging snowstorm.

Many different ways, actually.

The older I get the more I appreciate those Bob Seger songs “Night Moves” and “Against the Wind.”


39 posted on 05/12/2011 1:24:55 AM PDT by golux
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To: moehoward
Shoulda kept that 356!

I was young and stupid. Besides, the Custom Cruiser could pull a camper! But, the kids are grown, the wife was fired, and I have a motor home. I do like the looks of the Boxsters... and it would make a good "toad"... hmmmmmm....


40 posted on 05/12/2011 4:01:00 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Praise God from Whom all blessings flow!)
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To: golux; dalereed; Red Badger
I will certainly spring for this interesting vehicle, which I believe was featured on the History Channel in "NAZI Wonder Weapons of 1976." I am particularly impressed with the styling, which should be a smash at the tough biker bars in Provincetown.

However, before I place an order, I must be assured that the dash console will accommodate the 8-track from my 1966 912 cabriolet without serious alterations. There is also the problem of the 912 fitted luggage that must be addressed. I also wonder if the microwave and adapter from from my Freightliner can be used.

In re "making love in a Triumph Spitfire," at exactly what speed did the act occur, and were there witnesses? No big deal if the vehicle were stationary. It was certainly possible, especially with the bonnet tipped forward and the Triumph Spitfire Privacy Screen (still available from Moss Motors) erected.

In the meantime gentlemen, may I suggest that the entire design team for the Jap Porsche project be temporarily assigned to nuclear clean-up at Fukushima? The radiation might shrink their brain tumors to the point where they could work on a useful project, like equipping American family vehicles with 2.5 liter turbo-charged smart diesel engines, so we could power up w/o using foreign oil. Think 50mpg. Also in the meantime, I shall continue work on my history project. I am wondering how a nation, which to date has produced no one capable of correctly and safely operating a motor vehicle, could have bombed Pearl Harbor with aircraft.

41 posted on 05/12/2011 4:19:37 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: gaijin

It was a good video til Hillary! FACE FILLED MY SCREEN!...................


42 posted on 05/12/2011 5:38:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven............)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Chapter 18 of my SMITHS manual advises: when on a snow-covered frozen lake, or when using factory OEM tyres, one should admit a speedo error factor of of 10-25%.

But chapter 1 of “Welcome to Leyland” suggests that SMITHS gauges are subject to much higher error factors than that under the most ideal conditions.

To make things worse, the LUCAS people say you can’t trust anything if the radio’s turned on. And I distinctly remember listening to “Karma Chameleon” on CKTS 900 as the car pitched and yawed.

So regarding the speed of the vehicle, I guess it is impossible to know.


43 posted on 05/12/2011 5:51:36 AM PDT by golux
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To: golux
Dear Mr. Golux,

We here at LUCAS noted your post with some dismay. Our systems work by means of scientific manipulation of the mysterious rays which pass through the ether known as "electricity." It is found in nature (see Encyc. Britt: "Electric" shocking eels and rays, which render their prey immobile by means of electro-magnetism) but may sometimes be "conducted" along paths constructed of copper wire, which has proven no end of fun for young, technically minded hobbyists! For example, several young fellows have reported that by electrically "exciting" crystals of quartz, they can receive MarconiGrams from HRH Ships at sea!

We have found that this mysterious vital force can also be used to ignite petrol under the appropriate safeguards and conditions, none of which, if I may be so bold, do you appear to be observing.

It is negative comments such as yours that have caused me to direct our staff away from the idle frippery of the motoring hobby, toward socially responsible work on projects that benefit mankind, viz "The British Pub Beer Cooler," which shows great promise and will soon be delivered to the public houses of the realm, quite possibly in time for the Coronation.

Our partner company, Smiths, advises you that if it is absolutely necessary to use your vehicle in inclement weather, you may use the moistened digit approach to estimating speed. However, be advised that by using your vehicle under such conditions, you thereby invalidate your Lucas Warranty.

Sincerely,
A. Volta,
Chief Engineer, Electromagnetical Working Party
& Customer Service

44 posted on 05/12/2011 7:39:17 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: gymbeau
I just spent a week driving the 911 turbo S. My Gawd, what a car! 530 horses, yet heated seats and automatic headlights cost extra. Still, if I could afford it - and was ready for a divorce - I’d buy it tomorrow!

Yeah Porsche likes their options. The latest gen 997TT is a phenomenal car, faster with PDK and launch control than even it's prodigous HP figures suggest - bet that was a fun week.

45 posted on 05/14/2011 5:07:51 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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