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Black Hawk Down China Up?
IBD Editorials ^ | May , 11, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 05/11/2011 4:02:36 PM PDT by Kaslin

Secrets: Good news of bin Laden's death may be followed by bad news of Pakistan giving China a peek at our downed helicopter. Will we be threatened by our own technology?

They are something out of the latest Batman flick, the modified Black Hawk helicopters that were used in the raid on Osama bin Laden's Pakistani compound. With a curious hublike housing around the unusually configured rear-rotor, among other things, it was clearly designed to be as quiet and stealthy as possible.

When one of the copters clipped a wall in bin Laden's compound, it had to be destroyed, leaving behind a technological gift that not-always-cooperative and now-disgruntled Pakistanis may use to get even with an America that left them out of the loop.

ABC News reports that in the days after the raid, the tail section and other pieces of debris — including a mysterious cloth-like covering that the local children found fun to play with — were photographed being hauled away from the crash site by tractor.

Pakistan has expressed an interest in keeping and studying the wreckage that we want back, but they do not have the capability to exploit any knowledge gained. The Chinese do, however, and they too have expressed an interest in taking a peek at the wreckage. And as one Pakistani official told ABC, "We might let them take a look."

After concluding a trip to Beijing last month, Punjab Chief Minister Muhammad Shahbaz Sharif told Pakistan's local press that China was Pakistan's "best friend." In some Pakistani eyes, sharing recovered stealth technology with their best friends in Beijing would be sweet payback for the unannounced Abbottabad raid.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abbottabad; aerospace; bho44; bhogwot; binladenraid; blackhawk; china; defense; f22raptor; gwot; helicopter; ibd; j20; military; nationaldefense; navyseals; obama; pakistan; pakitrash; raptor; raptorf22; savetherapter; specialforces; specialops; stealth; wot

1 posted on 05/11/2011 4:02:39 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Should the SEALS just throw themselves under the bus before the zer0 does?


2 posted on 05/11/2011 4:07:06 PM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: Kaslin

BOMB THEIR EMBASSY - like in 1999....


3 posted on 05/11/2011 4:09:53 PM PDT by traumer
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To: panaxanax

I imagine they would rather quit the Teams and retire from the Navy altogether, rather than take the fall for our Communist president.


4 posted on 05/11/2011 4:09:53 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: Kaslin
I don't understand why that was left behind, but then we really don't know if they were taking fire from outside the wall or not. Seems like that should have been easy enough to destroy.

Meanwhile, we'll keep giving those Pak rats foriegn aid.

5 posted on 05/11/2011 4:09:53 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Slump Tester

They destroyed part of the chopper up. Hopefully it was the critical part


6 posted on 05/11/2011 4:13:36 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Slump Tester

“I don’t understand why that was left behind...”

I’m guessing it was orders. They had the ability to wipe it off the face of the earth. Call it tin foil hat material, but that wasn’t left behind by accident.

“Hey, who blew up the top secret tail rotor silencer?”

“Gee, I thought YOU did!”

Puhhhhllllleaaaaaase.


7 posted on 05/11/2011 4:15:39 PM PDT by jessduntno (Liberalism is socialism in a party dress. And just as masculine.)
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To: Kaslin

Obama could get the copter back if he really leaned on Pakistan, the way Bush leaned on Pakistan after 9/11.

But of course he won’t.

a) Because he’s a feeble wimp.

b) Because he wants China to get the technology.


8 posted on 05/11/2011 4:15:51 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: Slump Tester
“I don't understand why that was left behind, but then we really don't know if they were taking fire from outside the wall or not. Seems like that should have been easy enough to destroy.”

It's my understanding that piece of tail section fell on the opposite side of the compound wall than the Seals were on. It's my guess that in the fog of the operation that got forgotten. I think what should happen is we (U.S.) should inform the Pakistanis that if we don't get the chopper remains back in 24 hours we're going to send a predator missile in to destroy the remains. And, btw, there can forget about any future aide from us. That’ what I would do. I think they're forgetting that there have been times in the past that the only thing restraining India from winding their clock is us as in U.S.

9 posted on 05/11/2011 4:16:20 PM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear

“Forgotten?”


10 posted on 05/11/2011 4:19:50 PM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: Kaslin

China probaly had the plans before the first prototype was built. Affirmative action and all ya know.


11 posted on 05/11/2011 4:21:02 PM PDT by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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To: sanjuanbob

“Forgotten?”

Heh heh ... yeah, and it was on the other side of a wall, too! Impossible to retrieve! How would they get through a wall?


12 posted on 05/11/2011 4:21:45 PM PDT by jessduntno (Liberalism is socialism in a party dress. And just as masculine.)
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To: Kaslin

An earlier piece of news said it was a Chinook. ...didn’t say Black Hawk. As for the Chinese, our universities and corporations already favored them over our own as university engineering students long ago, so game over. Prepare to rebuild instead of trying to undo what has already been done.


13 posted on 05/11/2011 4:27:26 PM PDT by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Kaslin

China hasn’t come up with anything new in 1,000 years. Since then it has practiced reverse engineering with a passion.


14 posted on 05/11/2011 4:27:46 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Kaslin

Shades of the Jimmy Carter fiasco.


15 posted on 05/11/2011 4:33:47 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: familyop
"An earlier piece of news said it was a Chinook. ...didn’t say Black Hawk"

The first stories were a Chinook and two Blackhawks. Which would have eliminated the whole surprise raid angle. These stealth birds are MUCH quieter.

To hear the difference between normal and "hush" mode check out this at youtube.Here

16 posted on 05/11/2011 4:47:14 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: jessduntno

“Call it tin foil hat material, but that wasn’t left behind by accident.”

You mean like a nice ‘gift’ or ‘campaign donation payback’ from 0bama to China?

White Hut story #37 of this fiasco says that they had been planning the raid for two years. You would think that every scenario would have been covered. Maybe you’re right!


17 posted on 05/11/2011 4:48:18 PM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: panaxanax

I’d bet my next Soc Sec check that the Chinese had cell phone pics and digital files on this rig before it was taxi’d out of the build hangar.


18 posted on 05/11/2011 4:50:18 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

Ping


19 posted on 05/11/2011 4:59:55 PM PDT by raptor22 (Join me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: sanjuanbob

““Forgotten?””

Just my best guess. What’s yours?


20 posted on 05/11/2011 5:51:43 PM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: Cicero

How did Bush lean on the Pakis?? By resuming military aid and shipping off a bunch of F-16s and AMRAAMS (which probably reached China).


21 posted on 05/11/2011 7:55:18 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Kaslin

The Chinese simply want to check up on one of their many investments in the USA. Can’t blame them one bit - they probably held title to the chopper since we’re paying for it over time with China holding the loan. And THIS, boys and girls, is why we shouldn’t be indebted to folks that don’t like us very much.


22 posted on 05/11/2011 8:39:47 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: SERKIT

Re: to folks that don’t like us very much.

Nonsense!

Based on how them there Chicoms fancy all things Americana http://www.china.org.cn/world/2011-05/12/content_22551993.htm, not only is it that their dislike of you is but a deep misconception of your own making, in fact, the other way around http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/ME13Ad03.html is really how the plot of this story should have been written.

My book: You scratch my back http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/BUSINESS/05/10/geithner.china.talks.ft/c1main.washington.afp.gi.jpg and I yours http://www.chinapost.com.tw/news_images/20110512/p01b.jpg are how a true to one another long and loving husband and wife relationship derived. No Terminator-III :) in making — guaranteed!

Superfusion, was it? Yes, like love, superfusion, too, is such a wonderous thing!


23 posted on 05/12/2011 7:59:16 AM PDT by EdisonOne
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To: EdisonOne
Re: to folks that don’t like us very much.
Nonsense!

I Like Chinese
The stuff on your links are both scary and hilarious (or is that hiralious>).

24 posted on 05/12/2011 11:13:45 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: SERKIT

Re: The stuff on your links are both scary and hilarious (or is that hiralious>).

Well... I don’t know if it’s scary. I mean [what’s so scary about solving the world’s problems and prospering from it, in an equal partnership], in the same time? Two birds one stone isn’t that bad of a deal, don’t you agree?

And, is it hilarious you ask? Hey! I think so! I mean are you insinuating that you disapproves of us Vancouver Canucks?

Hey! We’ll take either the Sharks or the Red Wings on anytime so just give us your best shot! It’ll be a tight game but I think we’ll have the upper hand, overtime, game 7, by one puck!


25 posted on 05/12/2011 8:22:50 PM PDT by EdisonOne
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