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River tops levee in Louisiana
AP/WWL ^ | 5/12/11

Posted on 05/12/2011 9:10:33 AM PDT by Kartographer

The Mississippi River has topped a levee north of Lake Providence in extreme northeast Louisiana, flooding croplands as an effort by farmers to shore up the 100-year-old structure was thwarted by the rising river.

About 12,000 acres behind the 18-mile-long levee, mostly planted in corn and soybeans, were flooding Thursday morning though no homes appeared to be in danger in the thinly populated area.

Maintenance on the levee was abandoned years ago after another, higher levee was built farther back off the river.

(Excerpt) Read more at wwl.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: acoe; farmland; flooding; foodsupply; usacoe
Prayers for the People of the Mississippi Delta
1 posted on 05/12/2011 9:10:35 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer
Here is a stupid question, we don't have floods in my area.

Is this caused from a lot of Spring rain upriver or from the snow runoff?

2 posted on 05/12/2011 9:14:21 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Slugs and Bitter Clingers Unite.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Both this year.


3 posted on 05/12/2011 9:16:05 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Correct, everything follows down hill and poor Louisanna is at the bottom of the hill.


4 posted on 05/12/2011 9:16:22 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

pics here.

http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/20110512/UPDATES01/110512004/Farm-levee-overtopped-East-Carroll?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

Farm levee overtopped in East Carroll


5 posted on 05/12/2011 9:18:10 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

What’s Behind the Record Mississippi River Flooding?
http://www.worldweatherpost.com/2011/05/05/whats-behind-the-record-mississippi-river-flooding-livescience-com/

This year’s massive flooding along the Mississippi River is the result of unfortunately timed rainfall and still melting snow. The overwhelmed river has already set several records, and more may be on the way.


6 posted on 05/12/2011 9:18:34 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Something like 9 x normal precip in the upper Midwest.
7 posted on 05/12/2011 9:18:38 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Ladies and Gentlemen the _resident of the untied States!!)
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To: abb

So, is Spike Lee gona make another movie??


8 posted on 05/12/2011 9:19:38 AM PDT by catman67
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To: Kartographer

Louisiana - Half under water, the other half under indictment.


9 posted on 05/12/2011 9:20:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kartographer

Obama’s fault


10 posted on 05/12/2011 9:20:53 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: thackney

C’mon, get real. Everyone knows HAARP is causing all of this flooding to trigger a New Madrid earthquake.


11 posted on 05/12/2011 9:21:44 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dfwgator

I sat in on this trial for a few hours last week.

http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/20110511/NEWS01/105110309/Councilmen-convicted

A federal district court jury convicted two Monroe city councilmen Tuesday evening on bribery and racketeering charges.


12 posted on 05/12/2011 9:25:35 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

I don’t care what anyone says, we can not be as corrupt as Chicago!


13 posted on 05/12/2011 9:34:06 AM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

This flooding is caused by “The Rising Tide of Racism in America”.

(”The Rising Tide of Racism in America” is trademarked by a consortium of the ACLU, NAACP and the Congressional Black Caucus. All rights reserved.)


14 posted on 05/12/2011 9:37:35 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Is this caused from a lot of Spring rain upriver or from the snow runoff?

Global warming is causing the glaciers to melt and the oceans to rise, which causes the Great Lakes to back up into the Mississippi. /s

15 posted on 05/12/2011 9:40:22 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Kartographer
The problem is not with the weather - but with man's effrontery to it.

When they started building the levees in the 1800’s,Twain said: “”One who knows the Mississippi, will promptly aver — not aloud, but to himself — that ten thousand River Commissions, with the mines of the world at their back cannot tame that lawless stream, cannot curb it or confine it, cannot say to it, Go here, or Go there, and make it obey; cannot save a shore which it has sentenced; cannot bar its path with an obstruction which it will not tear down, dance over, and laugh at.”

Man's machinations of nature, for material gains, has caused countless deaths and havoc.

Build your cities and homes and farms in flood basins, build your city on the edge of the ocean AND build it below sea level - and weep and wring hands when nature follows it's course and floods you out.

When will we learn? Probably never, as long as a dollar is to made in the short run.

Twain added: they "might as well bully the comets in their courses and undertake to make them behave, as try to bully the Mississippi into right and reasonable conduct."

16 posted on 05/12/2011 9:41:15 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the otherhand)
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To: Bitsy
"I don’t care what anyone says, we can not be as corrupt as Chicago!"

The political thugs from LA and Chicago go to prep school in Joisey.

17 posted on 05/12/2011 9:53:43 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Tagline expired!)
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To: FatherofFive
Thanks, glad I asked, not.

I know you are kidding, but FYI the Great Lakes are not rising.

18 posted on 05/12/2011 9:56:36 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Slugs and Bitter Clingers Unite.)
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To: Kartographer

I really hope Im not going to Franklin Parish this weekend to evac my parents.


19 posted on 05/12/2011 10:06:09 AM PDT by DwFry (Baby Boomers Killed Western Civilization!)
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To: dirtboy
C’mon, get real. Everyone knows HAARP is causing all of this flooding to trigger a New Madrid earthquake.


I did not know that!

20 posted on 05/12/2011 10:17:46 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (The 'Land of Opportunity'... NOW BECOMING... The 'Land of Entitlements'!!!)
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To: maine-iac7

5 points for “excellent use of a quotation in a post.” You advance to the next round.


21 posted on 05/12/2011 10:19:18 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (I asked the bartender for a bin Ladin, she said 'what's that? I said 'two shots then a splash.')
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To: mad_as_he$$

I just called a friend in Little Rock and she said that there’s a million acres under water.


22 posted on 05/12/2011 10:20:29 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: matthew fuller

The political thugs from LA and Chicago go to prep school in Joisey.

Forgot about Joisey, now we’re #3.


23 posted on 05/12/2011 10:20:50 AM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: abb

>>Convicted Monroe City Council members Red Stevens and Arthur Gilmore can remain in office until their sentencing in federal court in August.<<

This is the winner! You know the sentence is going to be real cruel, don’t you. Hell is the judge related to both these guys?


24 posted on 05/12/2011 10:23:27 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: Kartographer

“Louisiana 1927”

What has happened down here is the wind have changed
Clouds roll in from the north and it started to rain
Rained real hard and rained for a real long time
Six feet of water in the streets of Evangeline

The river rose all day
The river rose all night
Some people got lost in the flood
Some people got away alright
The river have busted through cleard down to Plaquemines
Six feet of water in the streets of Evangeline

Louisiana, Louisiana
They’re tyrin’ to wash us away
They’re tryin’ to wash us away
Louisiana, Louisiana
They’re tryin’ to wash us away
They’re tryin’ to wash us away

President Coolidge came down in a railroad train
With a little fat man with a note-pad in his hand
The President say, “Little fat man isn’t it a shame what the river has
done
To this poor crackers land.”

Louisiana, Louisiana
They’re tyrin’ to wash us away
They’re tryin’ to wash us away
Louisiana, Louisiana
They’re tryin’ to wash us away
They’re tryin’ to wash us away

-Randy Newman


25 posted on 05/12/2011 10:35:26 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: Kartographer
In pictures, Mississippi River watershed

The Mississippi River has the fourth largest drainage basin or "catchment" in the world. The basin covers more than 1,245,000 sq mi (3,220,000 km2), including all or parts of 31 states and two Canadian provinces. The drainage basin empties into the Gulf of Mexico. The total catchment of the Mississippi River covers nearly 40% of the landmass of the continental United States.

26 posted on 05/12/2011 10:43:38 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: DwFry

http://www.katc.com/news/corps-of-engineers-issues-new-inundation-maps-if-morganza-isn-t-opened/


27 posted on 05/12/2011 10:55:20 AM PDT by cajuncow
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To: B4Ranch
Ouch. Higher food prices to come.
28 posted on 05/12/2011 11:34:30 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Ladies and Gentlemen the _resident of the untied States!!)
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To: B4Ranch

3 percent of the state


29 posted on 05/12/2011 12:03:08 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: mad_as_he$$

That’s alright. Americans have lots of money and they like to eat imported food from the third world countries. Just think how many jobs this will create, rebuilding all those roads, schools and houses. Nobody will say Zero didn’t know how to lower the unemployment rate when times were tough.


30 posted on 05/12/2011 12:35:53 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: Ratman83

3% of the most productive part of the state.


31 posted on 05/12/2011 12:37:16 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: B4Ranch
Sad but true.
32 posted on 05/12/2011 12:40:55 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Ladies and Gentlemen the _resident of the untied States!!)
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To: B4Ranch

When that headline hit yesterday morning (quoting the Monroe city attorney, I got busy and wrote in my blog:

http://lincolnparishnewsonline.wordpress.com/2011/05/11/law-says-stevens-gilmore-shall-be-suspended/

Law Says Stevens, Gilmore SHALL be Suspended
By Walter Abbott

Louisiana state law says that the felony conviction last night of City of Monroe Councilmen Robert “Red” Stevens (District Four) and Arthur Gilmore, Jr. (District Three) shall cause them to be automatically suspended from public office without compensation.

LA RS 42:1411. Public officer; ground for removal; suspension; definitions

By yesterday afternoon, the city attorney reversed herself and admitted they had to go.


33 posted on 05/12/2011 12:43:56 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Yep. Coupled with high transportation costs, this could get interesting very quickly.


34 posted on 05/12/2011 12:51:02 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: B4Ranch

3% of the state, more like 10-15% of the productive part. It will hurt.


35 posted on 05/12/2011 12:54:15 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: abb

Good move. If we ever meet, dinner and drinks are on me.


36 posted on 05/12/2011 1:23:19 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: Ratman83

You’re probably right, could even be low numbers.


37 posted on 05/12/2011 1:24:57 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: NonValueAdded

Why, thank you.;o)


38 posted on 05/12/2011 5:34:45 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the otherhand)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Amazing, I never thought of that, thanks for posting.


39 posted on 05/12/2011 5:48:36 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: abb
I finally found this newsstar article after I saw a sudden drop in the Greenville river gauge last Friday night:

I figured it must be a levee breech somewhere, and I saw that mentioned in news articles, but with no real specifics. It wasn't until I saw today's ( Sunday's ) MODIS AQUA image of the lower Mississippi that I was able to locate it:

See it? Lake Providence is the brown "pond" at center bottom. ( This is my hand processed version of the "raw" image. )

Compare and contrast the much ballyhooed Bonnet Carre and Morganza spillway openings:

Well, you can see the efflux of the Bonnet Carre spillway, but the is nothing in the Morganza floodway after two days! After all, they only opened a couple of gates. I suppose there is water pooled by the spillway, but the "pond" you see in the circle is largely on the riverside, where it's supposed to flow through the spillway when it's opened. My thought: The Morganza opening was "pro forma". Evidently the breech of the abandoned thousand year old ;-) levee south of Greenville was much more efficacious.

The secretary will ignore all of my pronouncements, should you choose to accept them.

40 posted on 05/15/2011 11:13:36 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
This Yahoo AP article, As water creeps close, residents warned: Get out does much to explain the situation at Morganza, as it mentions, "... places where there hasn't been even so much as a trickle". I think the Corps is trying hard not to kill anybody. This is putting quite a crimp in the operation, it would seem.
41 posted on 05/15/2011 11:43:29 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

I suspect the current flood is about equal to the 1927 flood in water flow, but not gauge height, as the 27 flood had many levee breaks that would have mitigated the flooding downstream of those locations.

I’m gonna see if I can find some flow numbers of the 27 flood. The science may not have been that exact back then.


42 posted on 05/16/2011 2:04:18 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

I would imagine that the 1927 flood was much greater, and the apparent approach of the current flood to its dimensions is solely produced by the restriction of the modern river channel.

This idea is suggested to me by the substantial drop in the gauge height at Greenville due to the very limited release of water at Lake Providence. In 1927, the river was sixty miles wide in places, as we read. I’d love to see a MODIS AQUA image of that one.


43 posted on 05/16/2011 2:21:42 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

The “project flood” is designed for a flow rate of about 3 million ft3/sec at Red River Landing.

http://www.mvn.usace.army.mil/pao/bro/misstrib.htm

It says that is 29% greater than 1927, which would put the 1927 flood at about 2.2 million ft3/sec at that location. We’re pretty close to that flow right now.

The 1927 flood was definitely mitigated by levee failures which absorbed flow that otherwise would have flowed down the main channel.

Perhaps this flood is the 1927 equal in some locations, but not others. This one had a pretty good inflow from the Arkansas River a couple of weeks ago.

I’m still looking for flow numbers for 1927.


44 posted on 05/16/2011 2:58:52 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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