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Mitt Romney’s Illogical, Terrible Health-Care Address (He bombed! Why even bother running Mitt?)
NRO ^ | Thursday May 12, 2010

Posted on 05/12/2011 2:58:55 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

Mitt Romney just gave a more articulate defense of Obamacare than President Obama ever has. He continues to believe that the individual mandate is a good idea, despite the fact that the “free-rider” problem is a myth. His effort to make a distinction between Romneycare and Obamacare was not persuasive: If anything, he convincingly made the opposite case, that Romneycare and Obamacare are based on the same fundamental concept.

In recent months, Romney has claimed that Romneycare was a specific solution for the specific needs of Massachusetts. But in his remarks, he did not name one specific aspect of the Massachusetts health-care environment that is unique to that state. If there are no important differences between the Massachusetts health-care system and that of other states, why shouldn’t he believe that Romneycare should be the model for every other state?

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elites; mitt; obamacare; palin; rino; romney; romney4obama; romneycare; slickwillard
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Go away mitt!
1 posted on 05/12/2011 2:58:58 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

I think Trump now has a better chance of being the nominee than Romney. And Trump has no chance at all.


2 posted on 05/12/2011 3:05:56 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Bigtigermike

Deal breaker for me. If the republicans go over our heads and give the nomination to this guy I’m not voting.


3 posted on 05/12/2011 3:06:58 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Bigtigermike

The “Free Rider” is a myth? Not in this world. How many hospitals have been bankrupted by the illegal free riders much less the citizens who don’t pay for anything.

Mitt is one of those who just cannot accept the message you and the voters have for him.


4 posted on 05/12/2011 3:07:13 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Bigtigermike

Mitt
Huckster
Newt
All have huge problems. Bring on The Donald!


5 posted on 05/12/2011 3:07:40 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: DManA

And before anyone whines to me that I’m electing Obama - what’s the difference. Who cares. Romney is just as bad.


6 posted on 05/12/2011 3:08:27 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Get real nominees are created by the VOTERS not some mythic party. Mitt (as bad as he is) is ten times preferable to Urkel.


7 posted on 05/12/2011 3:08:35 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Bigtigermike

I been thinking all day about this wonderful Mitt speech that will enlighten us boobs as to just why he okay Romneycare, why he had to do it, why it was okay then but Obamacare is not okay now....on and on.

I thought to myself, well what possible justification could the man have? A justification that would convince me, that is.

Because I don’t care that it was a state thing, I don’t care that the Mass legislature was filled with liberal Democrats, I don’t care that health care costs were dragging the state through the mud....a Conservative would never espouse any kind of huge government takeover like happened with Romneycare.

Bear in mind, residents of Mass MUST buy health insurance. I got relatives in Mass....relatives now prepping to move out in large part because of the burden this Romneycare puts upon them.

How could I ever vote FOR someone who signed such a thing into law?

Because Romney could have VETOED the thing.

I don’t care that he changed this and he changed that and I don’t care that it would have been far worse without his pressure and I don’t care that the Mass legislature would have over-ridden his veto.

The man signed into being a law that requires citizens to purchase health insurance if they wanted to live there. No, it’s not car insurance, not the same thing. Without car insurance, if that be the case, you don’t drive.

You don’t get health insurance...what? You don’t live?

Or did Romney veto the bill and I don’t know what I’m talking about? Wouldn’t be the first time.

Because no other excuse will make him right for me except if he’d done everything in his executive power to stop the bill. If he did not, he should not pee upon my feet and tell me it’s raining.


8 posted on 05/12/2011 3:08:46 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/2011/02/freerepublic-ping-list-compilation.html-Freep Ping Blog post)
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To: arrogantsob

Are you really that naive?


9 posted on 05/12/2011 3:11:16 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Bigtigermike
Vote for the darkest of dark horses otters. Butch Otter 2012!
10 posted on 05/12/2011 3:11:47 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: Bigtigermike

I heard part of it. Only one word to describe what I heard.... Blithering.....


11 posted on 05/12/2011 3:12:58 PM PDT by Breto (never accept the premise)
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To: Argus

Can Dems put Mitty on the Rep ballot?

I’m sure they’ll go big for him in open primary states, knowing a Mitt nomination guarantees a Tea Party candidate and opening the door for a Baraq win via Clintonian plurality.


12 posted on 05/12/2011 3:13:20 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Bigtigermike

Did anyone listen or even care?


13 posted on 05/12/2011 3:13:48 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Mitt Romney. The GOP’s version of Barack Obama.


14 posted on 05/12/2011 3:13:56 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (The stench of dependency is a sickening smell. Strive to become an asset, not a liability.)
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To: Fishtalk

^5


15 posted on 05/12/2011 3:15:32 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: DManA

Naive? About what? I certainly am not naive enough to sit out an election when a radical Marxist is one of the choices. I will never be that naive.

Nor am I naive enough to squeal and whine when I cannot get 100% of what I what all the time. If the voters in the GOP choose someone not my choice I also won’t act like a RINO and sit at home.


16 posted on 05/12/2011 3:17:51 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Bigtigermike

“there’s not a lot that I want to borrow from France and Switzerland.”

Like many Americans, sounds like Mitt is having trouble distinguishing Switzerland and Sweden.

Probably doesn’t know the difference between Danes, Dutch and Deutschland, either.


17 posted on 05/12/2011 3:17:58 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Fishtalk

You’re tougher than me. I was willing to give him a pass if he’d admitted it was a mistake.

Know we know, he is a radical socialist. The battle against socialized medicine is the last stand. He just admitted he’s our enemy.


18 posted on 05/12/2011 3:19:53 PM PDT by DManA
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To: arrogantsob

Ok, you aren’t naive. You’re stupid.


19 posted on 05/12/2011 3:21:10 PM PDT by DManA
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To: dennisw

Elect some new folks with testicles to CONGRESS, some folks who understand that there was a reason the Founders set up the legislature in ARTICLE 1 of the Constitution and the executive BELOW it in Article 2, and it wouldn’t matter if Adolph Hitler — or a clone of Der Furher named Obozo — sat in the White House.

Sadly, we’ve sent so damn many professional office seekers to Congress that, to avoid the unpleasantness and bother of discharging their Constitutional duties to OBEY THE CONSTITUTION AND REPRESENT THE PEOPLE, over time they shipped most of their power to 1600. TIME TO TAKE IT BACK — WHILE WE STILL CAN.

That assumes we still have enough “citizens” here who even KNOW what the Constitution is or what it means to their freedoms. That’s the one that scares hell out of me.


20 posted on 05/12/2011 3:22:25 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (2012 CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH FOR ME. HOW ABOUT YOU?)
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To: Bigtigermike

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan: “No Herman Cain for President, Mittens for best friend.”


21 posted on 05/12/2011 3:23:06 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: DManA

Same here. I’m staying home if this @ss-clown is the GOP nominee.


22 posted on 05/12/2011 3:23:06 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: DManA

So says a man with no valid arguments.


23 posted on 05/12/2011 3:23:55 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Fishtalk
I don’t care that he changed this and he changed that and I don’t care that it would have been far worse without his pressure and I don’t care that the Mass legislature would have over-ridden his veto.

Actually, it's worse. The Massachusetts leg didn't shove this puppy down Romney's throat -- it was his idea from the get go!

Sure, given the preponderant Dem majorities, Romney immediately lost control of the legislation -- but it was his idea in the first place!

So, one might justifiably conclude either:

1. Romney is, at bottom, a liberal collectivist.

2. Or a totally incompetent politician.

3. Both of the above.

24 posted on 05/12/2011 3:24:10 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The only tiny power we have is a veto power. We stay home the republican loses. The party elites have to be made to understand that. And we have to be willing to use that power.


25 posted on 05/12/2011 3:26:10 PM PDT by DManA
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To: arrogantsob

So says a man who thinks there’s a difference between a republican radical socialist and a democrat radical socialist.


26 posted on 05/12/2011 3:27:36 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
You are not alone. Millions and millions will not vote for backstabber, and Obamaphile, Romney.

We will work against Romney and the GOP in that case.


Romney for Obama in 2008

Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.


"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



Romney for Obama in 2009


Chihuahua Romney - the Magic RINO:
"I also think it's important for us to nod to our pRes_ _ent when he's right,"
we are pleased with his plans to "finish the job" in Iraq and Afghanistan
I also applaud our pRes_ _ent
for standing up to the evil auto industry. "


Romney for Obama in 2010

"Go Mitt. Go Mitt. Go Mitt"


"Rove is pushing Romney so aggressively
some folks are beginning to wonder what's going on,"
grumbled one veteran Republican strategist."


"Rove has made no secret
of his support for Romney as McCain's VP. "


Romney for Obama in 2011

Chihuahua Romney - the One and the Only "Magic RINO(TM)":

"Obama was born in the United States"

"Obama Doesn’t Need a Birth Certificate"

"The citizenship test has been passed"


Milt Romney in 2007

Romney - the Magic RINO:
"I'm not running as the Republican view
or a continuation of Republican values.
That's not what brings me to the race.

(Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)



"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party
 over to the traitors in the battle just ended.
We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged
 to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support.
Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates
wouldn't make any sense at all.""

--  President Ronald Reagan



"One of the traditional methods of imposing statism
or socialism on people has been by way of medicine..."

President Ronald Reagan


Romney-Imposed Gay Marriage (through Threats against Clerks)
And Romney Death Panels and ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE
Imposed by the carpetbagging, backstabbing “Milt” Willard Romney.




27 posted on 05/12/2011 3:29:51 PM PDT by Diogenesis ( Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: DManA
I'm not even counting on the Republicans. I'm counting on myself. Because I KNOW the Stupid Party is going to f--k up in 2012, and nominate another squish who'll politely concede to Obama. No thanks.

We know who's the only person capable of taking down Obama, but the elites aren't having it and the people are sheep. So therefore, it's time to have a backup plan when the crap does hit the fan.

28 posted on 05/12/2011 3:32:22 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: Bigtigermike

Whaaaaat?? Mittster, the darling of NRO, has no clothes? This is totally unexpected!


29 posted on 05/12/2011 3:33:27 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: DManA

You calling Romney a “radical socialist” makes it true only in your fevered imagination. No one in the real world falls for such crap.

Or do you have evidence that MR was raised by anti-Americans, had his schooling paid for by foreign powers, and was raised to national prominence through the efforts of dedicated terrorists? If so, lets see it. If not, go fly a kite.


30 posted on 05/12/2011 3:34:32 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: arrogantsob

He outed himself today. Go be counted like a good little republican.


31 posted on 05/12/2011 3:36:27 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Bigtigermike

32 posted on 05/12/2011 3:42:28 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: Argus
I think Trump now has a better chance of being the nominee than Romney. And Trump has no chance at all.

Trump is Romney, without the mormon baggage.

33 posted on 05/12/2011 3:45:18 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: dennisw
Mitt
Huckster
Newt



34 posted on 05/12/2011 3:48:12 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: Diogenesis
We will work against Romney and the GOP in that case.

Be sure to include me in that collective "we", as I'll never vote for the statist,/socialist/baby killing/lower than pond scum/ bastard. Never!

35 posted on 05/12/2011 3:52:00 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Bigtigermike
"Why even bother running Mitt?"

That is a good question. I hope he takes a hard look, concludes he can't win, and drops out. Romney would split the party fatally. There is a serious danger the GOP goes the way of the Whigs this election.

36 posted on 05/12/2011 3:59:26 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Bigtigermike

“If anything, he convincingly made the opposite case, that Romneycare and Obamacare are based on the same fundamental concept.”

And why shouldn’t they be? Both were written by fat Teddy Kennedy, who, from the grave, is still tormenting the nation.


37 posted on 05/12/2011 4:10:38 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: DManA; arrogantsob

“So says a man who thinks there’s a difference between a republican radical socialist and a democrat radical socialist.”

Someone that can write a statement like that has no business calling others naive, stupid, or anything else.


38 posted on 05/12/2011 4:18:38 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: Forty-Niner

We all better hope the republican party can smell a loser before it’s too late.


39 posted on 05/12/2011 4:32:03 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Forty-Niner

We all better hope the republican party can smell a loser before it’s too late.


40 posted on 05/12/2011 4:32:12 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Bigtigermike

Save your money and find another business to run, Mitt. The nation has more than enough flip-flopping politicians in D.C. without you.


41 posted on 05/12/2011 4:32:48 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Bigtigermike

there’s gotta be a better way to fight socialism than nominating a socialist.


42 posted on 05/12/2011 4:39:53 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Anti-Bubba182

No, I *WANT* as many RINO’s as possible to tusk it out, leaving a good conservative *cough* (Sarah Palin) *cough* standing. Bob


43 posted on 05/12/2011 5:31:15 PM PDT by alstewartfan (While we lay under our roofs, the whole night filled up with the beating of hooves. Al Stewart)
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To: DManA

My feelings exactly. No way, no how.


44 posted on 05/12/2011 5:39:56 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Bigtigermike; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; ExTexasRedhead

There is one thing that can be said in defence of Romney’s health care reform in Massachusetts- it’s marginally better than ObamaCare. That’s not exactly something to brag about.


45 posted on 05/12/2011 6:06:42 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Muslims are a people of love, peace, and goodwill, and if you say that they aren't, they'll kill you)
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To: Bigtigermike; holdonnow
IF NRO is slamming Romney for this speech then you know he finally self-destructed.

Boston Talk Radio show host (and FReeper) Michael Graham was in the room and said on his Facebook page that it was truly awful.

46 posted on 05/12/2011 6:26:49 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Someone needs to create one of those morph graphics that shows Mitt morphing into Obama.


47 posted on 05/12/2011 6:28:56 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: DManA

So what party do you like? The Fleabitten? The Lovers of Losers? The Never Heard of Me Didja? The 2%er Party?


48 posted on 05/12/2011 6:35:48 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Bigtigermike

What an awful selection so far.


49 posted on 05/12/2011 6:39:45 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: arrogantsob

You stick with your “winners”. I’ll stick with my consciousness.


50 posted on 05/12/2011 6:53:59 PM PDT by DManA
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