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CNN: SEC OF DEFENSE GATES SAYS RAID DETAILS WERE SUPPOSE TO BE KEPT SECRET!

Posted on 05/12/2011 5:17:41 PM PDT by macquire

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To: macquire
That's what they told Gates would happen.

But that was an intentional lie, they planned all along to use the mission as political promotion.

Maybe one reason you can color him gone.

21 posted on 05/12/2011 5:28:25 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: skeeter

“This administration and the extremists running the democrat party shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the machinery of leadership”

This is my stock answer:

Notice that when Republicans enter office, there is not an attitude of “We are going to completely stop doing things the way our predecessor did them, and we are going to do them our way from now on.” It is usually a very measured approach, letting things go the way they did for a period of time before making changes, and those changes are usually incremental, not radical.

This is because conservatives understand that you do not need to re-invent the wheel. The problem with reinventing wheels, policies or anything else is that you often make the same mistakes the first inventor did, unless you take extra care to see why those mistakes occurred.

Liberals do not have the humility to understand this. It is why liberals are all socialists to a greater or lesser degree and believe in big, centralized government.

I use the analogy of a jumbo jet flying through the sky on auto-pilot, with no flight crew present, and a passenger opens the cockpit door and enters.

Conservatives would enter the cockpit, look around and take stock of the situation. They might look at the fuel gauge, look at the attitude and get a general feel of the situation. They probably wouldn’t touch anything right away, realizing that there are circumstances where doing something for the sake of doing something can be far more harmful. They might decide to put the headphones on, see if they can communicate with anyone, see if they can hear anything, and so on. They would probably try to find someone who could talk them down, and failing that, might try to figure out if there was anyone onboard with piloting experience.

Liberals would enter the cockpit, look around and scream out “Nobody is flying the plane!” They would jump in the pilot seat, grab the control stick and shout “We have to get this plane on the ground or we’re all going to die!” They might dive the plane towards the earth, looking frantically for an airport, making the assumption that of course, you could fly a plane from the sky “just by looking around, there is the airport over there, let’s get to it!” without realizing that is one of the most difficult things even for veteran pilots who might have the advantage of at least being familiar with the area and comfortable with trying to pick up landmarks from the air. They would dive the plane, then suddenly realize they don’t know how to turn the plane, how to apply rudder or lower the flaps and landing gear (probably wouldn’t even realize those were needed) and would simultaneously realize they had no idea how to stabilize the plane in level flight or re-engage the autopilot. The passengers, feeling the gyrations of the aircraft and knowing something was wrong, would begin to panic, and before you know it, there would be a huge flaming hole in the ground.

It is the same thing with a military campaign, an economic crisis, an environmental issue, solving an education or social problem, or just about anything else you can think of.

Liberals see the levers, dials and controls of something powerful and complicated, and instead of figuring out how they work or even if they work, they make the assumption that no matter what, they can control this better than anyone or anything that controlled it before. They don’t even think that sometimes putting your hands on the levers of something powerful is much, much more damaging than keeping your bloody damned hands OFF of them.

If it is a military campaign, they get in their armchairs and begin looking at the maps, targets and forces involved, pick up the phones and begin issuing orders and edicts to generals. You end up with the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban Missile Crisis, Vietnam, Desert One and Mogadishu.

On environmental issues you end up with some kind of foreign species of fish that you brought in from South America to control some other kind of issue, and it ends up destroying the native ecosystem, or on a global scale, you destroy the ability to obtain energy for an energy dependent world because you need to save the existence of the Alaskan Spotted Lugwort. They determined through their “science” that DDT made the egg shells of predatory birds thin causing their populations to decrease, and viewing it as a canary in a coal mine, outlawed DDT, thereby condemning tens of millions of people (or over the years, perhaps even hundreds of millions) to misery and death from insect borne diseases such as malaria. Even worse, you end up with liberals trying to deliberately destroy industry and economies, an attempt to plunge the entire western world into a depression, and they base their desire to do this on “Global Warming”. To sum up this particular angle and encapsulate the liberal mindset on all these issues, but most importantly environmental ones, remember this quote from a feminist wall mural I see in Cambridge, MA: “INDICATION OF HARM, NOT PROOF OF HARM IS OUR CALL TO ACTION”. Look well upon that quote...it sums up liberalism in one compact line.

If it is a economic or social issue, they begin to make policy and throw money at it without even considering for a single damned second if what they are doing is really going to produce the expected result. If it doesn’t help or makes things worse, they simply throw more money and legislation at the issue, without bothering to dismantle the agencies or defund what they did before that failed miserably. In this, you end up with Rent Control (a liberal invention which destroys the availability of affordable housing), Social Security (a liberal invention, a Ponzi scheme on a grand scale that gave people the false security they didn’t have to save for themselves) the Great Society, Welfare, School Busing, declining ability of students and failing schools, disintegration of the family and soon, socialism and Third World Squalor.

And this piece of crap in the White House is steeped up to his oversized jug-handled ears in the arrogance and ignorance of Liberalism. He is a racist, socialist and marxist. He believes it to the core, and he is now the most powerful man in the world.

That is who has his hands on the machinery of leadership. It scares the hell out of me.


22 posted on 05/12/2011 5:28:52 PM PDT by rlmorel (Capitalism is the Goose that lays The Golden Egg.)
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To: macquire
Well, some people, I'm afraid, really were right : - one way or another, the SEALs would wind up getting thrown under the bus.

Mission Accomplished.

23 posted on 05/12/2011 5:29:10 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: macquire
Just who is in charge of this Popsicle stand, anyway? Put a moat with alligators around the White house and we'd all be safer.
24 posted on 05/12/2011 5:29:34 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: omega4179

Anything’s possible. But there are definitely two things that have been suppressed: a public UBL hanging, and the long form.


25 posted on 05/12/2011 5:29:57 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: macquire

Same thing happened right before the last election: Obama leaked all kinds of top secret military info to Bob Woodward. Obama was willing to do anything to get a pro-Democrat book in the stores for the election.

I also remember 2006 when the Democrats won control of Congress by leaking all kinds of material about the secret spying programs. Each and every one of those programs had been explained to and approved by Democrats on the intelligence committees, including Nancy Pelosi. Yet the Dems still leaked everything, risking our spies and more terrorist attacks, in order to win the election.


26 posted on 05/12/2011 5:30:22 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: macquire

EXCELLENT!

I have one bag of popcorn left!


27 posted on 05/12/2011 5:30:52 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: kcvl

excuse my language...he feels he’s been “dissed” so he’s playing my dick is bigger than yours.

....he’s a manchild

someone needs to bitchslap him


28 posted on 05/12/2011 5:31:02 PM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: kcvl

“Frankly, a week ago Sunday, in the Situation Room, we all agreed that we would not release any operational details from the effort to take out bin Laden,” Gates said. “That all fell apart on Monday — the next day.”


I always knew only the .mil could take this rat down. Thank you, all Armed Services.


29 posted on 05/12/2011 5:31:42 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: macquire

Gee....ya think maybe your glory-seeking BOSS might have something to do with that???!!!!


30 posted on 05/12/2011 5:33:00 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: macquire

Lotsa luck getting this juvenile blabber-mouth of a president to stop his Rambo schtick, Mr. Secretary. Next campaign stop, he’ll be wearing camo and someone else’s medals.


31 posted on 05/12/2011 5:34:02 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: macquire

Security tightened for US Navy SEALs: Gates

U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said that the US Navy SEALs who killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan will receive an upgrade in security over concerns that the commandos and their families may be subject to threats by terrorists.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/144874/20110512/gates-security-threat-navy-seals-osama.htm


32 posted on 05/12/2011 5:34:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: smoothsailing

Billed as breaking news Live on Spitzer’s In the Arena. Spitzer spent about 10 minutes on it.


33 posted on 05/12/2011 5:34:02 PM PDT by macquire
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To: macquire

The transcript of his speech concerning the raid:

“Q: Good morning, sir — (inaudible) — Castilla, from Medical Logistics Company.

I’m going to go a bit out of the norm questions here. I understand that this — the answer to this question might be limited, or not at all, due to security reasons. But with the recent events with Osama bin Laden and the named SEAL Team 6, what measures are being taken to protect the identities and the lives of the SEAL team members, as well as the lives of military forces deployed that might have to face extreme retaliation from terrorist organizations that want to have those identities known?

SEC. GATES: Well, I think, first of all, there is a — an awareness that the threat of retaliation is increased because of the attacks — because of the action against bin Laden. I think that there has been great — frankly, a week ago Sunday, in the Situation Room, we all agreed that we would not release any operational details from the effort to take out bin Laden. That all fell apart on Monday — the next day.

The one thing I would tell you, though, is that I think there has been a consistent and effective effort to protect the identities of those who participated in the raid, and I think that has to continue. We are very concerned about the security of our families — of your families and our troops, and also these elite units that are engaged in things like that. And without getting into any details — and I — and I would tell you that when I met with the team last Thursday, they expressed a concern about that, and particularly with respect to their families. And so we’re — I — as you say, I can’t get into the details in this forum, but we are looking at what measures can be taken to pump up the security. “

http://www.defense.gov/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=4822

there is video at the DOD site, too.


34 posted on 05/12/2011 5:34:58 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: macquire

Gates enabled this by agreeing to stay as SecDef under Obama. Gates was a fool to trust him. His punishment should be repeating this a million times: “The Democrats will do ANYTHING to win. The Democrats will do anything to win.”


35 posted on 05/12/2011 5:35:06 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: macquire

I do believe this will always be the case whenever we have a President that’s never served in the military.


36 posted on 05/12/2011 5:35:31 PM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Siegfried X

My money would be on Valerie Jarret. More concerned about Obie’s reelection than ANYTHING else.


37 posted on 05/12/2011 5:36:04 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Put Obie in a dress and call him "The Last Queen of Scotland".)
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To: macquire

The only thing dumber than divulging classified info is to then confirm it.


38 posted on 05/12/2011 5:38:56 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: macquire

The information is still leaking out

DRIP, DRIP, DRIP...who do you think would benefit by this?!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2719129/posts


39 posted on 05/12/2011 5:40:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Portcall24

I do believe this will always be the case whenever we have a President that’s never served in the military.


Not only never served, but openly despised it right up until
the least of Americans voted him PUTOUTUS, but maybe W did innoculate our forces against being used and tossed by this ugly idiot.

Blech and yuck.


40 posted on 05/12/2011 5:41:11 PM PDT by txhurl
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