Skip to comments.Obama's death panels return: Rationing is at heart of President's health plan
Posted on 05/12/2011 11:03:43 PM PDT by UniqueViews
The fate of the elderly, the sick and the disabled depends on the findings of President Obama's proposed panel that will recommend savings for financially doomed Medicare.
There is a dirty secret about health care that President Obama hopes will escape the headlines. In his newly released plan to "reform" Medicare as part of overall deficit reduction, Obama has punted actual cost-cutting and instead proposed a panel - the Independent Payment Advisory Board - to recommend savings for the financially doomed program. Translation: Welcome to the world of rationing.
The board, which was an original part of Obamacare (remember the death panel debate?), consists of 15 unelected bureaucrats who will have unchecked, binding power in the interest of supposedly greater efficiency and lower costs. That means that instead of you or your doctor making decisions about your care, a group of Washington micromanagers will do it for you.
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Another issue for Palin to hammer on when she enters.
Our failed social policies have produced a huge number of 3rd to 5th generation welfare recipients who have serious, chronic medical problems often due to inherent organic problems from several generations of fetal drug and alcohol abuse combined health problems stemming from chronic drinking, smoking, drug abuse, STDs and poor diet. There is also a large number people who require medical care due to gang violence and/or injuries from criminal or prison activities as well as accidents while under the influence.
Obama care is an attempt to socialize and subsidize the the health problems created by the welfare culture and life style
The producers will be left to die, the looters will get the care.
I am going to do what I can to take care of myself and family, BUT I leave the rest in GOD’S HANDS. God will decide when it is my time, not some greedy stealing thug government.
It sounds like “death panels” based on pricing the poor out of the market makes much more sense than “death panels” providing people with information on how to best handle their final months or years.
Would have been nice for the Daily Snooze to headline this when we were fighting it back in 2009.
Yes, it is. Leveling is always downward, never upward. Healthcare should be up to the individual to decide how much they want/can afford to spend on it.
Healthcare has already stopped being patient oriented. “The greatest good for the greatest number”, will be the bureaucrats public mantra but control and limitation of the inferm or elderly will be the practice. Refer to the Soviet experience or observe the NHS in Great Britian.
And yet he wants to add millions of presently illegal immigrants to plan.
Millions more to Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, etc.
His plan is to our country on the fast track to ruin.
If I had the power to I would institute a sort of a basic health care reform which would be overwhelmingly simple and which would resemble obungacare in no way, shape, or manner. Key points would be:
1. Elimination of lawsuits against doctors and other medical providers. There would be a general fund to compensate victims of malpractice for actual damage and a non-inbred system for weeding out those guilty of malpractice.
2. Elimination of the artificial exclusivity of the medical system. In other words our medical schools could easily produce two or three times the number of doctors they do with no noticeable drop off in quality.
3. Elimination of the various games which drive the cost of medicines towards unaffordability.
4. Elimination of the outmoded WW-II notion of triage in favor of a system which took some rational account of who pays for the system and who doesn't. The horror stories I keep reading about the middle-class guy with an injured child having to fill out forms for three hours while an endless procession of illegal immigrants just walks in and are seen, would end, as would any possibility of that child waiting three hours for treatment while people were being seen for heroin overdoses.
All of those things would fall under the heading of what TR called "trust busting". There would also be some system for caring the truly indigent, but the need and cost would be far less than at present.
By far the biggest item is that first one. I don't know the exact numbers but if you add every cost involved in our present out-of-control lawyering, it has to be a major fraction if not more than half of our medical costs. The trial lawyers' guild being one of the two major pillars of financial support for the democrat party is the basic reason nobody is saying anything about that part of the problem.
Unless you can be in a position to get the 'waivers' from the panel's decisions (which have to go through congress), or are a congressthing yourself.
At that point, you're past the leveling and existing on your own special summit.
The bureaucrats solution ....
Issues like THIS need to be clearly highlighted in the upcoming election!
The non-secret "secret" about the high cost of American health care compared to other nations is the billions upon billions we spend in essentially futile care during the last year of life. Barack Obama, Don Berwick, and Paul Ryan would all agree with this if their names could be kept off the quote.
If the system is to survive the demographic shifts of the next decades, this practice simply has to stop.
It may be that Paul Ryan prevails, and that the Medicare HMO's who are put in charge of utilization will determine that quadruple bypasses for patients who've had two strokes are "clinically ineffective" as compared to some prescriptions and a walker.
It may be that Barack Obama prevails, and that the Medicare advisory panel decides that a hip replacement is "not medically indicated" for 90 year olds, and that a nice wheelchair is more appropriate.
Both plans, if implemented, will see more patients go straight from the ED to a nice hospice room, if the prognosis for recovery is gloomy enough.
And make no mistake, these decisions will all be cost motivated, and they will come to pass. Everyone who works in health care on the financial side has seen this coming for a decade.
The "golden days" of Medicare, when every new technology was covered, and when many weeks in the ICU preceded every death, are over.
Behold the next Holocaust brought to you by Obama, Pelsoi, Reid and the DemoRAT party. Their camps will be hospices where you will be remanded to for your “end of life” care courtesy of Big Bro and Big Sis.
Welcome to 1930’s Germany. Obama “shovel ready” jobs will be those that come for you via their Gestapo or union goons to haul you off. Think not? Think Again! Always remember, the political class will ensure that they get the best health care available via We The People’s tax dollars. You, on the other hand, are expendable for the good of the state.
Vote them out!
I work at a state "healthcare" facility. The conditions are appalling. The bureaurocracy has added layers of administration, cut nurses below safe staffing levels and denied any additional support to the medical department, like additional doctors which are sorely needed and desperately needed equipment. Oh well, we're all gonna die anyway!
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I’ve written it before, and I’ll write it again. These leftists can’t create anything. All they can do is destroy. Think free, quality health care is possible. It’s a lie, a blatant, bald-faced lie. Free care is ALWAYS rationed care. People better make up their minds. Do they really want the post office (or a similar bureaucracy) telling them what kind of health care they can get?
I fear for my parents when I see this. I can say more but I got to go to work, millions of looters depend on me.
This may be true but when the time comes, I don't care how much money one has or how good their healthcare, they will still drool, have their diapers changed, urinate on themselves, and have to be hand fed. They can wipe their ugly old @sses with $1,000 bills and it won't make them any more comfortable. The circle of life is what it is. So, if I cash out early so be it - I'm going to a better place but, their butts will still be lying in a gold plated bed hooked up to life support. Oh, well.
You have got that right.
The ONLY relative I have in Canada who got quick care had been a city councilman of a capital of a province, and they flew out a doctor from New York for him within a week of his heart attack.
HE is the ONLY one who got that kind of response.
I’m so glad we have a home elsewhere, a country where every minute of life is valued. FUBO! I’ve already beat him at his own game. FOBO.
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