Skip to comments.Gates: We Agreed We Wouldn’t Release Details About Operation Against OBL But 'That All Fell Apart'
Posted on 05/13/2011 10:03:28 AM PDT by newzjunkey
Speaking at a town hall with Marines at Camp Lejeune on Thursday morning, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the Special Forces who participated in the successful mission to kill Osama bin Laden were worried about their safety, and that he was concerned that so many details of the operation had become known to the public.
Frankly, a week ago Sunday, in the Situation Room, we all agreed that we would not release any operational details from the effort to take out bin Laden, Gates said. That all fell apart on Monday -- the next day.
Gates response was prompted by a question from a Marine in a Medical Logistics Company, who asked what measures are being taken to protect the identities and the lives of the SEAL team members, as well as the lives of military forces deployed that might have to face extreme retaliation from terrorist organizations that want to have those identities known?
Gates said that there is an awareness that the threat of retaliation is increased because of the action against bin Laden. He said there has been a consistent and effective effort to protect the identities of those who participated in the raid, and I think that has to continue.
The defense secretary said that when I met with the team last Thursday, they expressed a concern about that, and particularly with respect to their families I can't get into the details in this forum, but we are looking at what measures can be taken to pump up the security.
Asked for further clarification of Gates remarks, Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said that Secretary Gates was "not pointing fingers at any particular individual or any particular building" for details becoming known. "But all of a sudden airwaves and newspapers were filled with details about a covert military and intelligence operation and that's concerning because one of the reasons that these operations -- and this operation in particular -- are effective is because how they do their work, how they're equipped, how they're trained, their tactics and procedures are all secret. The more that's in the public domain the less likely we'll be able to pull these operations off in the future."
I really am beginning to hate this administration. Prayers for those who carried out the mission and their families.
And Panetta insisting the SEALs made the kill decision all on their own. They, the SEALs turned off their cameras for 25 min.
This administration has turned this kill into the butt of jokes around the world. Deadly results will be realized everywhere.
This is O’s brand of brilliance. This from the man the left said is so smart taking the presidency was a step down?
God help us.
After the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan.....These idiots believe Americans can’t handle seeing the pictures of this idiot? Give me a break. These guys need to be run out of our government.
The only thing that distinguishes this operation from Desert 1 is the fact that none of our guys got killed. Other than that it’s a complete cluster****.
I went way beyond hate a long time ago.
“Robert Gates: We Had Agreed We Wouldnt Release Details About the Operation Against OBL But ‘That All Fell Apart’” because of Ubama’s Big Mouth.”
I agree. It is absolutely disgusting what is being allowed.
We need a leader that says release details and that's your @ss. This administration is an abomination. God will certainly have a say so for the decisions made during this time. Putting people's lives at stake who have defended our country - already putting their lives at stake is hideous and heinous.
LOL! No, I guess it’s been for quite some time, but I was trying to be polite. :)
There’s an old saying that two people can keep a secret only if one of them is dead.
...because there's a reelection campaign to be run"
I keep seeing this picture. Who IS this guy?
What’s important to our commiemedia, our SEALs safety or their messiah’s re-election?
God Bless our Troops
Can you say Intelligence Identities Protection Act (IIPA)? Paging Patrick Fitzgerald. Please pick up the white courtesy phone in the lobby.
As Biden would say..."this is a big f*****g deal!"
Obama is an embarassment - to national security, to patriotic Americans...to anyone that holds liberty near and dear...
I used to joke with my commander about updating my Facebook page with operations I've been on, different objectives, etc. Why hide? That's good advertising. OPSEC be damned, let the terrorists know what they're in store for if they come knocking. Fear of consequences is the only deterrent that they understand.
(Obviously, most people don't feel that way, and I respect the rights of those wishing to remain anonymous to do so, etc, etc.)
"But, he continued, their initials are 'Barak Hussein Obama' and 'White House'. OOOPS! Did I just say that?"
In all seriousness, I am amazed that OBL's hide out was known since August and none of this came out in the New York Times or appeared in Wikileaks. We have the world's most porous and least disciplined government.
I can't get into the details in this forum, but
we are looking at what measures can be taken to pump up the security you can hear all about it on the news tomorrow. (Right after we tell Leahy)
There I fixed it.
You have gotten it, friend, right on the money. POTUS Obama could not care one iota about our Navy Seals, or for that matter any military man or woman. He hates them all. He is worried about one thing and, one thing only, his hate America butt and only that. Every other American can get thrown under the bus. This Obama dude is Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Castro, Chavez, etc., all rolled into one tyrant and dictator!!!
The first rule of fight club is: You do not talk about fight club.
The second rule of fight club is: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB.
But people whose lives are on the line, or people they love, or a nation they love, have always been the motivation for people to keep secrets. That has always been true and is so today. Only the immoral and mentally ill people break a trust.
Everyone in the know on this was at best a few hundred disciplined and patriotic people from JSOC / CIA / NSA, plus a bare handful of scruffs at the White House.
Normally, they'd be leaking juicy Top Secret information faster than you could say, "Redistribute the wealth", but in this particular case, they had good reason to keep it quiet.
***My guess: these leaks came from the WH to help make Lt. Commando 0bam Bam look like the military action hero toy doll that Nancy Pelosi knows he is.***
Obama reminds me of the little banty rooster who jumps up on a fence, flaps his wings and squeeks...”Rook-atook-aroo! See me! See me! I did it! I did it! I did it!”
O got his photo ops and a bunch of military types and their families have to have eyes in the back of their heads. Good thing they can’t have concealed weapons on military bases. What could be wrong about this, after all, John Kerry told us about the losers in the Marines. In all seriousness I would think very hard about getting out of the service under this CIC and his crew.
When you dance with the devil (dems) you will be used.
Gates should know that the moral of the story is ‘don’t make agreements with serial liars’. Those loose purple lips will sink our ships in the interest of getting reelected. Its all about him now.
It fell apart because there was a political advangtage to do so. If the mission had been a failure, it would barely have been mentioned. Just an attempt to get a high value target in Pakistan.
Typical political use of the passive voice, along the lines of "mistakes were made."
The passive voice is used to avoid taking -or assigning- responsibility.
Have you noticed they’ve let out tidbits of info nearly everyday since the operation?
There is no doubt in my mind that Obama and his political team, David Plouffe and Axelrod (now in Chicago) commissioned polls and saw that the more details the better for Obama.
The only thing "gutsy" about Obama's call was the political risk. A Desert One-like failure would have made him into another Carter, but the circumstances were far different. The Mission was undertaken in friendly territory and we had the best special ops personnel ever fielded plus better technology. After watching the compound for nine months on the ground as well as using satellites, the risk/reward assessment was a no-brainer militarily. Politically, it was a minimal risk with great reward.
The only fly in the ointment would be a revenge attack by AQ against the US that would point to security weaknesses in defending the Homeland. That is something I don't want regardless what the political fallout might be.
Goes hand-in-hand with not releasing photos. They want to craft the news over time, and releasing the photos a few days ago would be blowing their wad too much at once. When they said they would not release photos - too gruesome - they had and have all the while full intention of releasing them. All in due time. They may be "released" or they may be leaked, they will decide what's best [for the campaign]. Choreography at its worst.
I hope Gates writes a tell all book before the 2012 election. If he has anything more detailing this type of galling incompetence, it would be a best seller and Gates could help save us from more 0bama.
you can bet if any of these Seals get hurt, we’ll never know about it...they’ll never be identified as the Seals that were on the raid and it’ll be swept under the rug by the SCM just like everything else...
zero is anti American and is seeking to destroy our country .....what patriotic military man would be a part of that....
Outgoing Defense Secretary Robert Gates is giving his boss President Obama strong reviews for ordering the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.
"This is one of the most courageous calls -- decisions -- that I think I've ever seen a president make," Gates tells CBS' 60 Minutes in an interview to air Sunday night.
In excerpts released today, Gates said it was a "gutsy call" because so much could have gone wrong.
"This was a very risky operation," Gates said. "So, I was very concerned. So was the president."
Then there was the fact that Obama and his aides could not be certain bin Laden was even in the compound in Pakistan that was the object of the raid. "There was a lot of uncertainty about whether he was there," Gates said. "And that was my principal concern."
Nothing wrong with saying it as it is OW...Barry will of course not stop regardless who might be in the way of this next election. He has done so much damage thus far...imagine what the democrates intend to do if he wins again?...Four more years to completely “transform” this country to the Obama State! Frightening to imagine but the commies are certainly on a roll now.
I can’t/won’t even entertain the idea.
We have documentation, via articles written, government logs etc of what has been done so far. I've been saving documentation on various issues (Obamacare, oil, immigration, defense, FCC, payoffs, kickbacks etc. etc. etc.etc.) so that when we get our government back, as a citizen, I plan on petitioning representatives, hopefully with other connected citizens (because I am not well connected), to immediately start reversing some of the most damaging legislation. And we'll have to have hard documentation so that no one can pull the wool over our eyes on these things.
I'm more focused on thinking about how to repair. It may sound Pollyannish, but it's all my mind can focus on: how are we going to compel our government to fix and reverse the disastrous legislation that has slipped through.
His friends call him "Mongo".