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Gates: We Agreed We Wouldn’t Release Details About Operation Against OBL But 'That All Fell Apart'
ABC News ^ | May 12, 2011 2:41 PM | Jake Tapper

Posted on 05/13/2011 10:03:28 AM PDT by newzjunkey

Speaking at a town hall with Marines at Camp Lejeune on Thursday morning, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the Special Forces who participated in the successful mission to kill Osama bin Laden were worried about their safety, and that he was concerned that so many details of the operation had become known to the public.

“Frankly, a week ago Sunday, in the Situation Room, we all agreed that we would not release any operational details from the effort to take out bin Laden,” Gates said. “That all fell apart on Monday -- the next day.”

Gates’ response was prompted by a question from a Marine in a Medical Logistics Company, who asked “what measures are being taken to protect the identities and the lives of the SEAL team members, as well as the lives of military forces deployed that might have to face extreme retaliation from terrorist organizations that want to have those identities known?”

Gates said that “there is an awareness that the threat of retaliation is increased because…of the action against bin Laden. “ He said there “has been a consistent and effective effort to protect the identities of those who participated in the raid, and I think that has to continue.”

The defense secretary said that “when I met with the team last Thursday, they expressed a concern about that, and particularly with respect to their families…I can't get into the details in this forum, but we are looking at what measures can be taken to pump up the security.”

Asked for further clarification of Gates’ remarks, Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said that Secretary Gates was "not pointing fingers at any particular individual or any particular building" for details becoming known. "But all of a sudden airwaves and newspapers were filled with details about a covert military and intelligence operation and that's concerning because one of the reasons that these operations -- and this operation in particular -- are effective is because how they do their work, how they're equipped, how they're trained, their tactics and procedures are all secret. The more that's in the public domain the less likely we'll be able to pull these operations off in the future."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; binladen; gates; obama; obl; osama; spikingtheball
Full title was too long: "Robert Gates: We Had Agreed We Wouldn’t Release Details About the Operation Against OBL But 'That All Fell Apart'"
1 posted on 05/13/2011 10:03:34 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey

I really am beginning to hate this administration. Prayers for those who carried out the mission and their families.


2 posted on 05/13/2011 10:05:29 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (To paraphrase Sarah Palin: "I love when the liberals get all wee-wee'd up.")
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To: newzjunkey

And Panetta insisting the SEALs made the kill decision all on their own. They, the SEALs turned off their cameras for 25 min.

This administration has turned this kill into the butt of jokes around the world. Deadly results will be realized everywhere.

This is O’s brand of brilliance. This from the man the left said is so smart taking the presidency was a step down?

God help us.


3 posted on 05/13/2011 10:06:18 AM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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To: newzjunkey

After the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan.....These idiots believe Americans can’t handle seeing the pictures of this idiot? Give me a break. These guys need to be run out of our government.


4 posted on 05/13/2011 10:06:51 AM PDT by RC2
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To: newzjunkey

The only thing that distinguishes this operation from Desert 1 is the fact that none of our guys got killed. Other than that it’s a complete cluster****.


5 posted on 05/13/2011 10:07:05 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: newzjunkey
My guess: these leaks came from the WH to help make Lt. Commando 0bam Bam look like the military action hero toy doll that Nancy Pelosi knows he is.
6 posted on 05/13/2011 10:07:44 AM PDT by mojito
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To: newzjunkey

7 posted on 05/13/2011 10:08:26 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: proud American in Canada
I really am beginning to hate this administration

Only now?

8 posted on 05/13/2011 10:09:06 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: proud American in Canada

I went way beyond hate a long time ago.


9 posted on 05/13/2011 10:09:55 AM PDT by surrey
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To: newzjunkey

Real title;
“Robert Gates: We Had Agreed We Wouldn’t Release Details About the Operation Against OBL But ‘That All Fell Apart’” because of Ubama’s Big Mouth.”


10 posted on 05/13/2011 10:10:37 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: proud American in Canada
I really am beginning to hate this administration.

I agree. It is absolutely disgusting what is being allowed.
We need a leader that says release details and that's your @ss. This administration is an abomination. God will certainly have a say so for the decisions made during this time. Putting people's lives at stake who have defended our country - already putting their lives at stake is hideous and heinous.

11 posted on 05/13/2011 10:13:41 AM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: surrey; grobdriver; All

LOL! No, I guess it’s been for quite some time, but I was trying to be polite. :)


12 posted on 05/13/2011 10:13:43 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (To paraphrase Sarah Palin: "I love when the liberals get all wee-wee'd up.")
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To: newzjunkey

There’s an old saying that two people can keep a secret only if one of them is dead.


13 posted on 05/13/2011 10:15:04 AM PDT by fredhead (Liberals think globally, reason rectally, act idiotically.)
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To: newzjunkey
"Robert Gates: We Had Agreed We Wouldn’t Release Details About the Operation Against OBL But 'That All Fell Apart...
...because there's a reelection campaign to be run"

14 posted on 05/13/2011 10:15:27 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (The 'Land of Opportunity'... NOW BECOMING... The 'Land of Entitlements'!!!)
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To: Owl_Eagle

I keep seeing this picture. Who IS this guy?


15 posted on 05/13/2011 10:15:41 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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16 posted on 05/13/2011 10:15:54 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: newzjunkey

What’s important to our commiemedia, our SEALs safety or their messiah’s re-election?

God Bless our Troops


17 posted on 05/13/2011 10:16:31 AM PDT by bray (What do you think of water boarding now, Obama?)
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To: newzjunkey
I'm thinking the Seals should go "full Valerie Plame" on the jacka**es in the WH - 0bama and Biden. And this time it would be for the actual leaking of covert operatives' identities.

Can you say Intelligence Identities Protection Act (IIPA)? Paging Patrick Fitzgerald. Please pick up the white courtesy phone in the lobby.

Fitzmas anyone?

18 posted on 05/13/2011 10:17:02 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: newzjunkey
Meh...what's a few innocent family members of SEALs safety? We're talking about POLL numbers - THAT's what's important.

As Biden would say..."this is a big f*****g deal!"

Obama is an embarassment - to national security, to patriotic Americans...to anyone that holds liberty near and dear...

19 posted on 05/13/2011 10:17:22 AM PDT by NorCoGOP (Obama's approval ratings: so low that Kenyans now accuse him of being born in the USA)
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To: newzjunkey
I've never agreed with this policy. Terrorists have never struck within the U.S. against operators or family members as specific revenge, and they're not hard to find. You could shoot random people in North Carolina and have a 50/50 chance of hitting someone involved in the GWOT.

I used to joke with my commander about updating my Facebook page with operations I've been on, different objectives, etc. Why hide? That's good advertising. OPSEC be damned, let the terrorists know what they're in store for if they come knocking. Fear of consequences is the only deterrent that they understand.

(Obviously, most people don't feel that way, and I respect the rights of those wishing to remain anonymous to do so, etc, etc.)

20 posted on 05/13/2011 10:22:19 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: surrey

Me too.


21 posted on 05/13/2011 10:22:37 AM PDT by Jean2
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To: newzjunkey
Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said that Secretary Gates was "not pointing fingers at any particular individual or any particular building" for details becoming known. "

"But, he continued, their initials are 'Barak Hussein Obama' and 'White House'. OOOPS! Did I just say that?"

In all seriousness, I am amazed that OBL's hide out was known since August and none of this came out in the New York Times or appeared in Wikileaks. We have the world's most porous and least disciplined government.

22 posted on 05/13/2011 10:25:50 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: newzjunkey
"I can't get into the details in this forum, but we are looking at what measures can be taken to pump up the security.”

I can't get into the details in this forum, but we are looking at what measures can be taken to pump up the security you can hear all about it on the news tomorrow.” (Right after we tell Leahy)

There I fixed it.

23 posted on 05/13/2011 10:25:50 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: NorCoGOP

You have gotten it, friend, right on the money. POTUS Obama could not care one iota about our Navy Seals, or for that matter any military man or woman. He hates them all. He is worried about one thing and, one thing only, his hate America butt and only that. Every other American can get thrown under the bus. This Obama dude is Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Castro, Chavez, etc., all rolled into one tyrant and dictator!!!


24 posted on 05/13/2011 10:27:35 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: newzjunkey

The first rule of fight club is: You do not talk about fight club.
The second rule of fight club is: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB.


25 posted on 05/13/2011 10:28:59 AM PDT by La.daddyrabbit (Now that obama is in the spotlight, he's really showing his true color.)
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To: fredhead
“There’s an old saying that two people can keep a secret only if one of them is dead”

But people whose lives are on the line, or people they love, or a nation they love, have always been the motivation for people to keep secrets. That has always been true and is so today. Only the immoral and mentally ill people break a trust.

26 posted on 05/13/2011 10:29:35 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
In all seriousness, I am amazed that OBL's hide out was known since August and none of this came out in the New York Times or appeared in Wikileaks. We have the world's most porous and least disciplined government.

Everyone in the know on this was at best a few hundred disciplined and patriotic people from JSOC / CIA / NSA, plus a bare handful of scruffs at the White House.

Normally, they'd be leaking juicy Top Secret information faster than you could say, "Redistribute the wealth", but in this particular case, they had good reason to keep it quiet.

27 posted on 05/13/2011 10:34:07 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: mojito; newzjunkey

***My guess: these leaks came from the WH to help make Lt. Commando 0bam Bam look like the military action hero toy doll that Nancy Pelosi knows he is.***

Obama reminds me of the little banty rooster who jumps up on a fence, flaps his wings and squeeks...”Rook-atook-aroo! See me! See me! I did it! I did it! I did it!”


28 posted on 05/13/2011 10:35:26 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: newzjunkey

O got his photo ops and a bunch of military types and their families have to have eyes in the back of their heads. Good thing they can’t have concealed weapons on military bases. What could be wrong about this, after all, John Kerry told us about the losers in the Marines. In all seriousness I would think very hard about getting out of the service under this CIC and his crew.


29 posted on 05/13/2011 10:36:04 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: newzjunkey

When you dance with the devil (dems) you will be used.


30 posted on 05/13/2011 10:36:32 AM PDT by devistate one four (United states code 10.311 Militia Kimber CDP II .45 OORAH! TET68)
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To: La.daddyrabbit

Gates should know that the moral of the story is ‘don’t make agreements with serial liars’. Those loose purple lips will sink our ships in the interest of getting reelected. Its all about him now.


31 posted on 05/13/2011 10:36:53 AM PDT by toolman1401
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To: newzjunkey

It fell apart because there was a political advangtage to do so. If the mission had been a failure, it would barely have been mentioned. Just an attempt to get a high value target in Pakistan.


32 posted on 05/13/2011 10:37:29 AM PDT by kabar
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To: newzjunkey
“That all fell apart on Monday -- the next day.”

Typical political use of the passive voice, along the lines of "mistakes were made."

The passive voice is used to avoid taking -or assigning- responsibility.

33 posted on 05/13/2011 10:38:02 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: Owl_Eagle

the gift that keeps on giving

34 posted on 05/13/2011 10:41:48 AM PDT by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: kabar

Have you noticed they’ve let out tidbits of info nearly everyday since the operation?


35 posted on 05/13/2011 10:42:35 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Bitsy
We need a leader that says release details and that's your @ss. This administration is an abomination

There is no doubt in my mind that Obama and his political team, David Plouffe and Axelrod (now in Chicago) commissioned polls and saw that the more details the better for Obama.

The only thing "gutsy" about Obama's call was the political risk. A Desert One-like failure would have made him into another Carter, but the circumstances were far different. The Mission was undertaken in friendly territory and we had the best special ops personnel ever fielded plus better technology. After watching the compound for nine months on the ground as well as using satellites, the risk/reward assessment was a no-brainer militarily. Politically, it was a minimal risk with great reward.

36 posted on 05/13/2011 10:44:37 AM PDT by kabar
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To: jaydubya2
Yep. We will be hearing about this all the way to election day 2012. Look for Obama to make big appearences at Ground Zero the next two September 11ths and I am sure that we will have other events celebrating Obama's great achievement.

The only fly in the ointment would be a revenge attack by AQ against the US that would point to security weaknesses in defending the Homeland. That is something I don't want regardless what the political fallout might be.

37 posted on 05/13/2011 10:48:56 AM PDT by kabar
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To: NorCoGOP
Obama is an embarassment a menace & threat - to national security, to patriotic Americans...to anyone that holds liberty near and dear...

Fixed.

38 posted on 05/13/2011 11:04:41 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("...; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,... "Hosea 4:6)
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To: jaydubya2
...they’ve let out tidbits of info nearly everyday since the operation?

Goes hand-in-hand with not releasing photos. They want to craft the news over time, and releasing the photos a few days ago would be blowing their wad too much at once. When they said they would not release photos - too gruesome - they had and have all the while full intention of releasing them. All in due time. They may be "released" or they may be leaked, they will decide what's best [for the campaign]. Choreography at its worst.

39 posted on 05/13/2011 11:07:12 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: newzjunkey

I hope Gates writes a tell all book before the 2012 election. If he has anything more detailing this type of galling incompetence, it would be a best seller and Gates could help save us from more 0bama.


40 posted on 05/13/2011 11:18:13 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: Steel Wolf

you can bet if any of these Seals get hurt, we’ll never know about it...they’ll never be identified as the Seals that were on the raid and it’ll be swept under the rug by the SCM just like everything else...


41 posted on 05/13/2011 11:37:29 AM PDT by cherry
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To: grumpygresh
Is Gates part of the problem?......I often wonder why these military guys even are in this administration....promotions?....post military lobbiest gigs?....

zero is anti American and is seeking to destroy our country .....what patriotic military man would be a part of that....

42 posted on 05/13/2011 11:40:47 AM PDT by cherry
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To: newzjunkey
Robert Gates is doing the cya:
Outgoing Defense Secretary Robert Gates is giving his boss President Obama strong reviews for ordering the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

"This is one of the most courageous calls -- decisions -- that I think I've ever seen a president make," Gates tells CBS' 60 Minutes in an interview to air Sunday night.

In excerpts released today, Gates said it was a "gutsy call" because so much could have gone wrong.

"This was a very risky operation," Gates said. "So, I was very concerned. So was the president."

Then there was the fact that Obama and his aides could not be certain bin Laden was even in the compound in Pakistan that was the object of the raid. "There was a lot of uncertainty about whether he was there," Gates said. "And that was my principal concern."


43 posted on 05/13/2011 3:13:32 PM PDT by vrwc54
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To: newzjunkey
Frankly, a week ago Sunday, in the Situation Room, we all agreed that we would not release any operational details from the effort to take out bin Laden. That all fell apart on Monday, the next day.

Hey, Barry is taking a page from Jesse Jackson who got everyone present at the murder of MLK, Jr. to agree to stonewall the press and then rushed back to Chicago, stopped by the local Moo and Oink or its equivalent for some blood to spatter his shirt, and then called the press to hear him lie about holding the dying MLK, Jr. in his arms as though MLK, Jr. was passing him the civil rights baton.
44 posted on 05/14/2011 8:13:31 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Outlaw Woman

Nothing wrong with saying it as it is OW...Barry will of course not stop regardless who might be in the way of this next election. He has done so much damage thus far...imagine what the democrates intend to do if he wins again?...Four more years to completely “transform” this country to the Obama State! Frightening to imagine but the commies are certainly on a roll now.


45 posted on 05/14/2011 8:23:56 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

I can’t/won’t even entertain the idea.


46 posted on 05/14/2011 10:37:45 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("...; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,... "Hosea 4:6)
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To: caww
Actually I hadn't completed the thought before hitting post. Like I said I can't (won't) entertain the thought of the marxist being in 4 more years. The damage that has been done to our nation to this point is still repairable imo. Four more years will destroy that hope and possibility.

We have documentation, via articles written, government logs etc of what has been done so far. I've been saving documentation on various issues (Obamacare, oil, immigration, defense, FCC, payoffs, kickbacks etc. etc. etc.etc.) so that when we get our government back, as a citizen, I plan on petitioning representatives, hopefully with other connected citizens (because I am not well connected), to immediately start reversing some of the most damaging legislation. And we'll have to have hard documentation so that no one can pull the wool over our eyes on these things.

I'm more focused on thinking about how to repair. It may sound Pollyannish, but it's all my mind can focus on: how are we going to compel our government to fix and reverse the disastrous legislation that has slipped through.

47 posted on 05/14/2011 10:55:56 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("...; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,... "Hosea 4:6)
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To: SMARTY
I keep seeing this picture. Who IS this guy?

His friends call him "Mongo".

48 posted on 05/14/2011 12:45:08 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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