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Posted on 05/14/2011 9:08:39 AM PDT by shoedog

The Dam

This is an actual letter sent to a man named Ryan DeVries regarding a pond on his property. It was sent by the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Quality, State of Pennsylvania. This guy's response is hilarious, but read The State's letter before you get to the response letter.

State of Pennsylvania 's letter to Mr. DeVries:

SUBJECT: DEQ File No.97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec 20; Lycoming County

Dear Mr. DeVries:

It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity:

Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond.

A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A review of the Department's files shows that no permits have been issued Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Pennsylvania Compiled Laws, annotated.

The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at downstream locations.. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the stream channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 2010.

Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that afollow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to comply with this request or any further unauthorized activity on the site may result inthis case being referred for elevated enforcement action..

We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter. Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions.

Sincerely, David L. Price District Representative and Water Management Division.

Here is the actual response sent back by Mr. DeVries:

Re: DEQ File No.. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Lycoming County

Dear Mr..Price,

Your certified letter dated 11/17/09 has been handed to me. I am the legal landowner but not the Contractor at 2088 Dagget Lane , Trout Run, Pennsylvania .

A couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood 'debris' dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their dam project, I think they would be highly offended that you call their skillful use of natures building materials 'debris.'

I would like to challenge your department to attempt to emulate their dam project any time and/or any place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic.

These are the beavers/contractors you are seeking. As to your request, I do not think thebeavers are aware that they must first fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity.

My first dam question to you is: (1) Are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers, or (2) do you require all beavers throughout this State to conform to said damrequest?

If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, through theFreedom of Information Act, I request completed copies of all those other applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued. (Perhaps we will see if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Pennsylvania CompiledLaws, annotated.)

I have several dam concerns. My first dam concern is, aren't the beavers entitled to legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay for said representation -- so the State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer.

The Department's dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event, causing flooding, is proof that this is a natural occurrence, which the Department is required to protect. In other words, weshould leave the Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling them dam names.

If you want the dammed stream 'restored' to a dam free-flow condition please contact the beavers -- but if you are going to arrest them, they obviously did not pay any attention to your dam letter, they being unable to read English.

In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build their unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green and water flows downstream. They have more dam rights than I do to live and enjoy Spring Pond. If the Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Protection lives up to its name, it should protect the natural resources (Beavers) and the environment (Beavers' Dams).

So, as far as the beavers and I are concerned, this dam case can be referred for more elevated enforcement action right now. Why wait until 1/31/2010? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice by then and there will be no way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them.

In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention to a real environmental quality, health, problem in the area It is the bears! Bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you should be persecuting thedefecating bears and leave the beavers alone. If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your dam step! The bears are not careful where they dump!

Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam office.



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This is hilarious. I didn't know how to bring pics over.
1 posted on 05/14/2011 9:08:42 AM PDT by shoedog
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To: shoedog

Actually it was Michigan but it appears to be true.

2 posted on 05/14/2011 9:15:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

this has been floating around for at least 10 years.

3 posted on 05/14/2011 9:17:52 AM PDT by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: shoedog

There are hidden contradictions in the minds of people
who “love Nature” while deploring the “artificialities”
with which “Man has spoiled ‘Nature.’ “
The obvious contradiction lies in their choice of words,
which imply that Man and his artifacts are not part
of “Nature”, but beavers and their dams are.
But the contradictions go deeper than this prima-facie
In declaring his love for a beaver dam (erected by beavers
for beavers’ purposes) and his hatred for dams erected by
men (for the purposes of men) the “Naturist” reveals his
hatred for his own race, i.e. his own self-hatred.
In the case,of “Naturists” such self-hatred is
understandable; they are such a sorry lot.
But hatred is too strong an emotion to feel toward them;
pity and contempt are the most they rate. As for me, willy
-nilly I am a man, not a beaver, and H. sapiens is the only
race I have or can have.
Fortunately for me, I like being part of a race made up of
men and women, it strikes me as a fine arrangement and
perfectly “natural.”


4 posted on 05/14/2011 9:18:47 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: jdub


I usually don’t refer to snopes but they’re OK for this sort of thing and they actually have a fair amount of background info.

5 posted on 05/14/2011 9:24:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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Tired of the way the left runs our country?
Click the Pic


6 posted on 05/14/2011 9:28:46 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: shoedog

I have a colony of beavers building a dam on the fork of the river that borders my property. They have destroyed all the smaller trees on the hillside above the dam. Luckily for us, the area behind the dam is County property. We do have trappers out here and I expect they will be permitted to set traps this year.

7 posted on 05/14/2011 11:14:46 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: shoedog

Thanks for posting!

I saw this a year or so ago and it’s still very funny!

I needed a good laugh, too.

8 posted on 05/14/2011 4:10:51 PM PDT by octex
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