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Barry Soetoro's real goal in forging birth certificate - to destroy U.S. Constitution

Posted on 05/14/2011 8:44:20 PM PDT by Article2-Section1-Clause 5

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To: Major Matt Mason

General Election: Republican vs. Obama
Poll Date Sample Obama (D) Republican (R) Spread
RCP Average 3/8 - 5/8 — 43.2 37.4 Obama +5.8

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

Considering the economy, Obama isn’t doing bad at all. Whatever we can do to keep him from being re-elected is what we need to do.


51 posted on 05/15/2011 5:23:44 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: The Duke

What about the dead homosexuals from Trinity? Wasn’t the guy who either looked up Obama’s passport info or was involved somehow killed? There are several more.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=21187


52 posted on 05/15/2011 5:32:14 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Elsiejay

Slightly off the main topic but about poll numbers:

Last night was having dinner at a local chinese restaurant which has TV screens over the bar. Just as I began eating, I looked over at the TV screen and there he was, (.)bama giving some speech, fortunately no sound but subtitles, and it was from the time preceding “the great raid he led”. This is almost two weeks later and the show was all about The Won, almost as if we had just won the war on terrorism. I blurted out to my wife, that SOB even has to bother me when I am having dinner now. Some clown seated next table said, hey bud, that is the president. I told him, maybe your president, not mine, I want no part of him or his politics. We almost got into a brawl.

So, that is how this is going to play out into the election, we are going to have continuous coverage of the caped crusader right up to the election with the media highlighting him and keeping the economy, immigration, energy, and a host of important issues off the screen.


53 posted on 05/15/2011 5:38:19 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Article2-Section1-Clause 5

You have an insight I never have seen before. Via the birth certificate issue Barry is trying to create more disrespect for the Constitution. The long form BC he submitted looks phony....just the way he likes it. Who can doubt that the hard core Obama voters would riot if we had a chance to remove this Kenyan foreigner via his birth certificate. Even better if a few states demanded physical inspection of the BC in Hawaii if he wanted to be on that states ballot. But the states are too chickenshite to push it. They may get disaster aid denied and other goodies too. They are under Soetero’s spell


54 posted on 05/15/2011 5:47:04 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: Mouton
So, that is how this is going to play out into the election, we are going to have continuous coverage of the caped crusader right up to the election with the media highlighting him and keeping the economy, immigration, energy, and a host of important issues off the screen.

The Obama psy-war image machine started up the day Osama was killed and will be in full gear from here to the election. You have to fight fire w fire. I see Trump as the only one who has the cojones to chip away at this false idol. Who will give the Kenyan the proper disrespect he deserves. Who will deconstruct this phony (Obama) image.

55 posted on 05/15/2011 5:53:45 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: Jonah Vark

And why are there some publishers cranking out some more to make a profit? Oh....there are really people who will pay not to have things published....and publishers will take said monies....no, say it isn’t so.


56 posted on 05/15/2011 6:19:18 AM PDT by Heuristic Hiker
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To: dennisw

Trump, and any other one who can get into his head. Notice as soon as a candidate does, like Palin, Ryan, or Trump did, the first thing that happens is the MSM hit squads go out and attack with the goal of discrediting them. (.)bama never does, he just lets his minions do that. Once they have absorbed some body blows, then The Won makes them a target of some joke in a speech he gives, building upon whatever attack seemed to work. For Trump, it was the birth certificate issue saying he was busy on other stuff, for Ryan, it was the roast at the speech he was invited to. He does that with other enemies too...used the state of union to attack SC judges last year.

Unfortunately, most of those who have been the victims of these tactics withdraw, or get no press coverage after (.)bama signals he is done with them with his bayonett the wounded strategy. No, the only candidate who can win against this POS IMO is one who has a national following, can go toe to toe with him and his dismissive sarcastic commentary and attack by staying on point, continuing in his head.

Trump could play this role as an attack dog for the eventual candidate. Hopefully he continues to aim at (.)bama and does not begin deriding other GOP candidates during the primary season. I want Barry to feel the heat as he probably will not get a serious dem challenge, if any at all. Trump cooked any possible nomination with that profanity laced speech he have in Las Vegas I fear.


57 posted on 05/15/2011 6:28:37 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Article2-Section1-Clause 5

“and then all the way to a marxist dictatorship.”

That’s certainly interesting. Who’s going to enforce it?

The Fat Welfare Momma Brigade?

The 50 IQ rap artists who can’t hold a glock straight?

Maybe liberal college students can piss in their pants and repulse us with the smell.


58 posted on 05/15/2011 6:39:27 AM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization that must be outlawed)
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To: Article2-Section1-Clause 5
They intentionally push the boundaries of the Constitution to see what they can get away with and make it obsolete by setting precedent. ...czars, R2P, open borders, foreign policy harmful to US... The shadow powers behind him seem bigger than just Soros, imo
59 posted on 05/15/2011 6:56:23 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Major Matt Mason

We need this issue to destroy the fake MSM’s mask of objectivity. They gave McCain’s citizenship questions a proctology exam; as they did to Palin’s background and family life.

The media must be called out on their double-standard. Obama has been given a free pass for almost three years.

Why?


60 posted on 05/15/2011 7:04:42 AM PDT by kjo
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To: little jeremiah
Ping

Interesting post,

similar to what you concluded a while back. (Paraphrase) The reason Obama was promoted for President and has so many gate keepers was/is because he is ineligible. They want to undermine the Constitution.

May be part of their globalization agenda.

61 posted on 05/15/2011 7:45:59 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Texas Fossil; All

Mabe we should start calling him Virginia???

Did The Hawaii Department of Health Steal A Dead Baby Girl’s Birth Registration Number To Cover For Obama’s Birth Certificate?

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/did-hawaii-doh-steal-dead-baby-girls.html


62 posted on 05/15/2011 7:48:15 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: kjo

Worse than a free pass, kjo. The Mainstream Media is complicit in Obummer’s takeover of American government, not just negligent.

Obummer can tell ANY LIE he likes without it being questioned. He can claim the border fence is nearly complete, that he led the raid on Usama, that Obamacare will lower costs for everybody and that Porkulus will keep unemployment below 8 percent. None of them true; none of them questioned.

As for the Constitution ... WIthout the Constitution, there is no United States. We would revert to 50 independent small countries.

The Constitution has already been grievously damaged, ignored, sidestepped and misinterpreted. We no longer need a movement to “preserve” the grand old document as we do one to “restore” it. And that will get very messy.

We now have a large and active Marxist/Socialist element running our country and teaching our kids. Rooting out this disease will require a new revolution. I’m praying we can still fix things at the ballot box, but we may have to resort to the cartridge box within or lifetimes if our nation would be saved.


63 posted on 05/15/2011 7:48:38 AM PDT by DNME (There are wolves and there are sheep. Concealed carry makes us sheepdogs.)
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To: itsahoot; El Sordo

Earning you keep, right on schedule I see.


Maybe getting paid double time for working on Sundays?


64 posted on 05/15/2011 7:50:01 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Mabe we should start calling him Virginia???

He will be called a lot worse things between now and Nov. 2012

65 posted on 05/15/2011 8:03:24 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: DNME
MSM =Soros

Soros ties to 30 major news org

66 posted on 05/15/2011 8:06:58 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Article2-Section1-Clause 5

So is your theory that the forgery was to cover up that he is not an NBC? Does the BC shown at the WH make him an NBC? If so, how is this an attack on the NBC clause? It is still intact, only not intact if you believe the forgery conspiracy myth (half baked to say the least).


67 posted on 05/15/2011 8:10:32 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Article2-Section1-Clause 5

I will shed blodd to defend the Constitution. I took an Oath in that regard; and, I have not nor will not recant.


68 posted on 05/15/2011 8:13:13 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: dennisw
The long form BC he submitted looks phony....just the way he likes it.

Yes, he wants it that way to divide his opposition. On one side (mine) we have people who understand there is a real long form paper that the reporter and others looked at, then that was scanned and then the digital image was thresholded and layered to make the digital artifact look phony.

On the other side we have birthers who claim the digital artifact was created from chunks (cut/pasted?) from other sources. They have no evidence for that (no chunks, no methodology) and there is counterevidence against it (the real paper artifact view and touched by real people, the arbitrary layering, etc)

So in the end the birthers look like they are ignoring reality and making up a conspiracy. I look like I'm making up a conspiracy (not much better but at least I am not ignoring reality).

69 posted on 05/15/2011 8:19:34 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: The Duke

The Freddie Mac CFO death, immediately left the news. No final autopsy result


70 posted on 05/15/2011 8:22:04 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: El Sordo
This is a ridiculous vanity post.

This is a useful vanity post...

71 posted on 05/15/2011 8:41:24 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: El Sordo
This is a ridiculous vanity post.

The only way to interpret that sentence is that you are ridiculing your own post #15.

I must agree with you. Your post #15 is certainly ridiculous -- as it's author.

72 posted on 05/15/2011 9:29:36 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I think you are spot on. What a blow to the Constitution this has been.


73 posted on 05/15/2011 9:30:53 AM PDT by ethical
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To: El Sordo
Troll, troll, troll your post
gently down the thread
You're posting from Oregon
What was that you said?
74 posted on 05/15/2011 9:36:15 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Article2-Section1-Clause 5

what i don’t understand is if obama and his group of marxist freaks want to attempt this nonsense, that’s one thing. but what benefit is yielded to all these others, including RINOs like rove and oreilly, who consistently and continuously cover for him, front for him and side with him on every issue, including the NBC issue? why would they want to see a marxist dictatorship put into place?

a more particular example would be why would the woman judge in the 9th cir. court or any of the scotus justices want to do away with the Constitution?


75 posted on 05/15/2011 3:38:52 PM PDT by matt1
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To: DOGEY
He is not the head of any conspiracy to destroy the constitution. He’s just a liberal acting like a liberal.

What, exactly, is the difference?

76 posted on 05/15/2011 3:44:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Mouton
Unfortunately, most of those who have been the victims of these tactics withdraw, or get no press coverage after (.)bama signals he is done with them with his bayonett the wounded strategy. No, the only candidate who can win against this POS IMO is one who has a national following, can go toe to toe with him and his dismissive sarcastic commentary and attack by staying on point, continuing in his head.

Who do you have in mind? Republicans always have trouble responding because the mainstream media does not give them traction. Republicans can say whatever they want but if it doesn't get proper coverage then they might as well have said nothing. Trump is able to break through this non-coverage

Trump could play this role as an attack dog for the eventual candidate. Hopefully he continues to aim at (.)bama and does not begin deriding other GOP candidates during the primary season. I want Barry to feel the heat as he probably will not get a serious dem challenge, if any at all. Trump cooked any possible nomination with that profanity laced speech he have in Las Vegas I fear.

Trump is still in the game if he wants to be....despite the Las Vegas speech
Trump should continue deriding, mocking and tearing down Obama but he has been silent lately. Maybe he won't be running

77 posted on 05/15/2011 3:49:36 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: Mouton

“So, that is how this is going to play out into the election, we are going to have continuous coverage of the caped crusader right up to the election with the media highlighting him and keeping the economy, immigration, energy, and a host of important issues off the screen”.


Check out with Snopes
OBAMA’S COLLEGE ROOMMATE SPEAKS OUT
By Wayne Allyn Root , June 6th, 2010

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/overwhelm.asp

After reading Wayne Root’s account, I’m not at all certain that there will be a presidential election in 2012. Obama and his Communist advisors/allies/co-conspirators, guided in their diabolical machinations by Cloward & Pivens, and in collusion with G.Soros and others of like convictions and intents, may have achieved irreversibly their goal of Fundamental Transformation well in advance of November 2012. I fear that the blood of patriots will have to flow to save our Republic.

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78 posted on 05/15/2011 4:29:36 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Yaelle

Sinclair says that he still has 100 copies at $24.95.

Larry Sinclair | May 15, 2011 at 3:44 pm |

It has been brought to my attention that some here have been looking for a copy of my first book and are finding prices out of this world. I have about 100 paperback copies that are offered signed and embossed with a custom raised seal. There are only 500 books that will carry the embossed seal. You can order them at http://www.larrysinclair.org/sinclairs-book/ they ship the same day or next day that the order is placed and they ship Priority Mail delivery confirmation.

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/05/15/rezko-and-blagojevich-protected-by-obama-justice-department-where-is-tony-rezko-streamlined-lie-being-told/#comment-200690


79 posted on 05/15/2011 4:43:16 PM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: opentalk

Thanks for the ping. HAven’t read it yet but will.

I probably agree! The leftists could have found just as radical a hate whitey/muzzlie loving/commie/fagloving leftist who was natural born. But they chose this guy.

Hmmmmmmmm


80 posted on 05/15/2011 5:19:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
LJ, on the opposite thinking to why this forgery was produced, was to help expose Obama:


Dr Ron Polland | April 29, 2011 at 5:28 am

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"...The PDF put on the WH website was made by someone who wants to expose Obama. He or she set him up by creating an easy-to-prove forgery that even a 5 year old can do:"


http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/obama-fool-us-once-fool-us-twice-dont-think-so/comment-page-1/#comment-54579

81 posted on 05/15/2011 9:33:44 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Interesting; I’ve seen a few people on FR speculate that same thing. A possible explanation for such a crummy and easily exposed forgery, for sure. I was also thinking possibly a rush job and the idiots (on drugs??) just didn’t do a good job. But for people who know about technical stuff to think it was done on purpose to expose him - that’s quite interesting.


82 posted on 05/15/2011 10:58:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: opentalk

Darn it, didn’t get to read it yet. Too busy. Placemark for tomorrow!


83 posted on 05/15/2011 11:21:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Article2-Section1-Clause 5
He’s trying to destroy the constitution. That’s something that the electorate cares about.

I'm not sure enough of the electorate cares about this, given the lousy public education system we have in this country. Certainly there is segments of U.S. society that could care less about something composed by old white guys, but even white liberals fall into this category. Maybe even RINO's.

84 posted on 05/16/2011 1:05:11 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (RINO's are more interested in defeating conservatives than they are in defeating Marxists.)
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