Skip to comments.Should America Declare Victory in the War On Terrorism?
Posted on 05/15/2011 9:38:50 AM PDT by pinochet
With the death of Osama, it is time for America to declare victory on the War on Terrorism. The main aim of the war on terrorism was to destroy Al Qaeda and kill Osama, just as World War Two aimed to destroy the Nazis and kill Hitler. Of course, mopping up operations should be carried out, to capture and kill remnants of Al Qaeda. But we do not want to see another endless war, similar to the so-called war on drugs, which will never come to an end.
The war on terrorism was used as an excuse to take away the civil liberties of the American people. Conservatives are usually firm defenders of the constitution. But under the Bush 43 administration, they were willing to ditch civil liberties, in order to feel safer. Conservatives were willing to tolerate government surveillance to a greater extent than at any time in American history. The Patriot Act had many unconstitutional provisions. Lots of government workers were hired to snoop on Americans.
Now that those unconstitutional powers are in the hands of Obama and his socialist crowd, some conservatives are having a hard time staying awake at night. It is time to stop harrassing little old ladies with tweezers, when they attempt to board planes in our airports.
Not until we rid ourselves of the Muslim in the White House.
You can't give up after one victory.
“But we do not want to see another endless war”
Do you prefer more planes flying into buildings, nuclear plants attacked, etc...?
There is NO end to the War on Terror, until every last terrorist is dead.
However, I do agree with you that the so-called “safety measures” implemented by our government, such as molesting travelers, is NOT the way to keep us safe. The problem is that the government is NOT using one of the most important available tools: PROFILING.
President Bush and Rumsfeld said at the time that they are prosecuting the War on Terror to kill terrorists “over there, BEFORE they have a chance to come and kill us over here”.
We have troops all over the world. Korea has “Truce” status.
What about these groups?
Does this sound like the way to win the war?
occasionally there are riveting communications, such as a recent e-mail from a noncommissioned officer (NCO) serving in Afghanistan. He explains why the rules of engagement for U.S. troops are too prohibitive for coalition forces to achieve sustained tactical successes.
Receiving mortar fire during an overnight mission, his unit called for a 155mm howitzer illumination round to be fired to reveal the enemys location. The request was rejected on the grounds that it may cause collateral damage. The NCO says that the only thing that comes down from an illumination round is a canister, and the likelihood of it hitting someone or something was akin to that of being struck by lightning.
Returning from a mission, his unit took casualties from an improvised explosive device that the unit knew had been placed no more than an hour earlier. There were villagers laughing at the U.S. casualties and two suspicious individuals were seen fleeing the scene and entering a home. U.S. forces are no longer allowed to search homes without Afghan National Security Forces personnel present. But when his unit asked Afghan police to search the house, the police refused on the grounds that the people in the house are good people.
On another mission, some Afghan adults ran off with their children immediately before the NCOs unit came under heavy small-arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs), and the unit asked for artillery fire on the enemy position. The response was a question: Where is the nearest civilian structure? Judging distances, the NCO writes dryly, can be difficult when bullets and RPGs are flying over your head. When the artillery support was denied because of fear of collateral damage, the unit asked for a smoke mission like an illumination round; only the canister falls to earth to conceal our movement as we planned to flank and destroy the enemy. This request was granted but because of fear of collateral damage, the round was deliberately fired one kilometer off the requested site, making the smoke mission useless and leaving us to fend for ourselves.
obama “killed” osama?
Yhe king is dead. Long live the king.
You can, I guess, ‘declare the end of the war on terrorism’, if that’s what floats your boat - I’m not so sure the terrorists would agree to go along, though....
Killing Osama, however justified and emotionally satisfying, will have no real effect on AQ, et. al., unless you’re living in a 1930’s “Jungle Jim” movie (shoot the cheif or the medicine man and the tribe quits and runs away...) instead of fighting a sophisticated force which comes complete with modern conveniences like chains-of-command and succession plans...
Not hiring hundreds of thousands of good little Democrats who will vote for Socialist schemes and Marxist candidates? Preposterous!
>>>Do you think that Al Qaeda is the only terrorist threat?
America has been fighting terrorism, in one form or another, since the 1960s. America also led an effort to isolate Iran and Hezbollah in the 1980s. We all remember Reagan’s message to Abu Nidal and other terrorists: “you can run, but you cannot hide”.
But America managed to fight terrorism effectively, without a huge bureaucracy, that is limiting the rights of Americans and driving them to bankruptcy.
We can declare victory in the war we began on 9-11. But we can continue to fight terrorism like we have always fought them before 9-11. Americans need to free themselves from the huge government bureaucracy that has been placed on their shoulders.
Remember that World War Two was not a “war on fascism”. It was a war on Hitler and Mussolini. After the war, fascist governments remained in office in Spain and Portugal. Those governments were not a threat to America. A war on terrorism without any end in sight, will mean that Americans will permanently lose privacy rights, and other fundamental constitutional rights. Do you want your grandchildren to be groped at airports 50 years from today, in a war that will have no end?
Remove every angry Mussie from our soil.
Then declare victory.
No doubt. Just look at the mess Bush created. Whole new huge agencies. TSA DHS etc. Awful. I say get the hell out of the ME and root em out here. They are in the Mosques in plain view.
Declaring that the war on terror is over because OBL is dead is akin to declaring that murder, rape, drunk driving, theft, etc. shouldn’t be investigated and prosecuted because they’re all illegal and should therefore never occur.
“We can declare victory in the war we began on 9-11.”
WE didnt begine the war...and it didnt begin on 9/11....
And it wont end until THEY surrender...
Cut and run is still cut and run...doesnt matter what you may “declare” while doing it...
We can blow money on Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen and you-name-it-stan until our printing presses run dry, but at this rate, those days aren't far off. We're not fighting in a serious manner, and there's no chance we're going. We could fight as we are for another 50 years and not change a thing.
We'll run out of money long before the world runs out of jihad.
Yes ...and then give 30 days notice to the TSA jerks at airports
Yes ...and then give 30 days notice to the TSA jerks at airports
Well, let’s pull out of the three countries we are sort of at war with, first. It’s not like we can win, meaning change the hearts and minds of those in the countries.
While I agree with your first two points... exactly who is “They”? That is the whole problem that I have with this War on Terror. The enemy was never defined, therefore we don’t really know who we are fighting much less the criteria for winning.
There! My debt problems are over!
Ok, actually, we should just end the war on terrorism and declare the authentic war against militant islam, wherever it exists.
We won in Vietnam too...before we lost it.
If you dont know who your enemy is by now I cant help you....
Excuse me I wasn’t clear that I was referring to the general public, not myself. I would have been delighted with a declaration of war on Afghanistan immediately after 9/11. The Taliban regime was clearly an enemy for harboring Al Qaeda.
And WW2 was just an excuse to make people turn off all their lights every night.
And how is that working out over this past 10 years?
Every few years, America also helps the Philippines "defeat" the Moros, too...but they still need to be "defeated" or "destroyed again, a few years later.
I like George Bush, but I think he made one big mistake when he defined the War On Terror. It should have been The War On Islam. They are at war with us and were then.