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Raw video: Sheriff's Office interview on fatal SWAT raid
KGUN9 ^ | 5/13/2011 | Jim Shields, Forrest Carr

Posted on 05/15/2011 12:11:08 PM PDT by petitfour

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To: petitfour

We need to end ‘no knock’ raides in *all* cases except for hostage situations. The violence done to our rights and the constitution is far greater than what could ever be done by the slim possibility of someone flushing the evidence or even getting away.

Anyone not presenting a written copy of a search warrant for my inspection prior to entry ad best be wearing something that can stop a Winchester 300 magnum with a 200 grain nozzler.


21 posted on 05/15/2011 12:55:46 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: petitfour

The local paper and arm of the Democrat party, Arizona Daily Star, published the story yesterday below the fold. They see Dupnik should be the target of questions and they stalled the story. FBI should investigate, not Pima County Sheriff’s Department.


22 posted on 05/15/2011 12:57:13 PM PDT by Havisham
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To: DB
I have small scales. I have cash on hand. Does that make me a criminal in the eyes of the law???

Naw, you're not so special, it's just 'cause you're breathing.

The state has no power over an honest man.

23 posted on 05/15/2011 12:58:38 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Mmogamer

The news story I read yesterday said that the guy was hit with 60 bullets. I don’t think the paramedics could have done anything for him though they did not admit this. The news story did not say who said 60 bullets hit the victim. He was hit in the stomach and hands in his crouched position, and he must’ve fallen forward as his wife could not put pressure on the wounds because he was on his stomach.


24 posted on 05/15/2011 12:59:34 PM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: RedStateRocker

They said they knocked and waited 15 seconds before breaking the door down because timing is essential when conducting simultaneous raids on 4 houses within a half mile of each other. It takes me more than 15 seconds to put on clothes to get to the door. I could be on the toilet. I could be in the shower. The only reason I could see to break in to someone’s house is if there was imminent danger to someone inside or a terrorist activity elsewhere.


25 posted on 05/15/2011 1:03:21 PM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: Navy Patriot
"The state has no power over an honest man"

That's not true. Rather than me citing a few of the hundreds of thousands of examples that belie that claim why don't you cite three?


26 posted on 05/15/2011 1:03:40 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace Misanthropy)
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To: petitfour
For comparison, the SWAT officers in my town had an armed suspect in a trailer. He fired a .357 mag and hit one officer in the butt (bullet is still there) and the other took one to the collar bone via a vest. Broke his collar bone. The officer with one in the butt took one in the back. It would have gone through his heart if not for the vest. The officers backed off when they discovered a woman and child also in the trailer. The suspect, woman and child drove off in a car without further endangering people nearby. The suspect was apprehended in a nearby town without incident. Not a single shot was fired by our SWAT team. They could have easily killed the guy on the spot.
27 posted on 05/15/2011 1:03:45 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: luvbach1
"owning up to it and the correcting procedures that led to it "

How about prosecutions for criminal negligence, if warranted?

How about conspiracy to commit murder if it's found any officer or officer of the court falsified an affidavit?

28 posted on 05/15/2011 1:04:52 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: KimberInKhaki


29 posted on 05/15/2011 1:07:05 PM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is on Kindle)
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To: I see my hands

You miss the point.


30 posted on 05/15/2011 1:07:33 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Havisham
FBI should investigate, not Pima County Sheriff’s Department.

Oh, HELL NO! No one affiliated in any way with Holder's Justice(?) Department should get anywhere NEAR the evidence in this case. Once that happens, Dupnik's thug murdering bastards will be found entirely justified, and they will make him a hero along with the killers.

Take it to a Grand Jury.

31 posted on 05/15/2011 1:07:49 PM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: Navy Patriot
"The state has no power over an honest man"

Dishonest Cambodians:


32 posted on 05/15/2011 1:09:35 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace Misanthropy)
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To: PalmettoMason
Take it to a Grand Jury.

On second thought, screw that.

Maybe some Marines will get together and get some justice for their brother.

Pretty dumb to start a war with the Marines, when all you have is a bunch of boobs that can't even get their story straight, Dupnik.

33 posted on 05/15/2011 1:14:12 PM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: luvbach1

Have you EVER seen such an admission?

I haven’t.


34 posted on 05/15/2011 1:14:33 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: RedStateRocker

“Anyone not presenting a written copy of a search warrant for my inspection prior to entry ad best be wearing something that can stop a Winchester 300 magnum with a 200 grain nozzler.”

Or a 174ga A/P from an M1! I will get a few of them before I go down!!!!


35 posted on 05/15/2011 1:14:40 PM PDT by mongo141
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To: vladimir998

NO problem Vladimir,
most of us have somewhat dyslexic fingers too.
Or is that Dyslexic minds?


36 posted on 05/15/2011 1:15:37 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Mmogamer
Here's what's happenin' in the People's Republic of Frisco Bay:

San Ramon officer delays plea to charges stemming from CNET scandal

Likewise an innocent bystander (unarmed) was shot to death in a swat raid to confiscate (and later resell for personal profit) narcotics. There are hundreds of innocent people entrapped and destroyed by this police-lawyer-criminal RICO organization.

37 posted on 05/15/2011 1:16:52 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: I see my hands

You still miss the point.


38 posted on 05/15/2011 1:18:46 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: KimberInKhaki
Remember the report that Janet "Reno" Napolitano put out that labeled veterans as potential domestic terrorists. Vets, the cops are not your friends.
39 posted on 05/15/2011 1:21:31 PM PDT by thecabal (The Golden Rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules.)
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To: petitfour
Police did not use excessive force. . . .

I wish I could remember enough details of a confrontation in southern California. It happened years ago. It was likely after 9/11.

I heard about it on an area radio show called "The Radio Detective" hosted by a retired LEO and at the time a PI, Jerry Pearce.

But even at the time I heard the story I found only one reference to it on the Internet -- and that was in a foreign newspaper; in Red China actually, but the story was printed as Mr. Pearce reported it.

A small businessman with some relatively minor mental problems became confused, believing that he was lost and somehow in the mountains around Los Angeles he parked his car on an overpass (near LAX). He called his wife.

Police noticed the car and obviously investigated. I do not recall how things started to get out of hand but more police were called and the driver was instructed to exit the freeway to a side street.

There even more police arrived. Surrounded and still confused the driver got out and opened the trunk. He lifted out something that resembled a rifle. BIG mistake.

If I recall correctly it was estimated that two hundred rounds were fired. At least 150 hit the man. The coroner estimated that any one of fifty rounds could have killed the man.

Pearce managed to get a copy of the coroner's report and he had a family member as a guest. Otherwise the story seems to have vanished -- even on the day it happened.

40 posted on 05/15/2011 1:22:06 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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