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Gingrich Backs Obamacare's Individual Mandate
Newsmax ^ | May 15, 2011 | Newsmax Wires

Posted on 05/15/2011 6:07:07 PM PDT by libstripper

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To: Pox

If by drafted, you mean Christie, forget it. He is fine where he is. Appointing two shariah-oriented judges in NJ took the glow right off for me.
Of the ANNOUNCED candidates, I said it before. Santorum is a Conservative to the soles of his feet but I don’t think Santorum could win. Cain is a Conservative with good business sense, but that alone does not a president make, so I don’t think he can win either.
Daniels wants to skip social issues altogether, so no core values there.. Forget that.
Paul and Huntsman are just....loco. Let Huntsman go climb to Shangri La La and take Paul with him. The air would do him good.
I would have drafted Bolton during the LAST election, but he said no. Wouldn’t take him this time around unless there is nobody else.
I am Palin supporter all the way and my ticket would be Palin/West. I think she is far more formidable than most people give her credit for. And West takes no prisoners. That’s my ticket and I’m sticking to it unless something really, really drastic changes everything... like the world ends or something.


151 posted on 05/15/2011 8:07:59 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: bluedressman

“I’m not supporting Newt, but let’s not distort what he said. He isn’t exactly backing obamacare. Not even close.”
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Here’s the problem; Newt also supports Comprehensive Immigration Reform, and he also buys into AGW (Remember his couch sitting with Nancy Pelosi?). The ramifications of this bogus science could potentially mean Cap & Trade for our country. This will spell bankruptcy for our nation. Sorry, but any person who buys into this bogus science, cannot be trusted.

In my opinion, the people here who are critical of Newt have good reason to be. The man is a RINO and CANNOT be trusted! 1994 was 1994. He is not the same man, and we are not the same country anymore.

In my mind, RINOs are more dangerous to this country than the Democrat/Socialist Party. At least we know where the Democrats stand on the issues. RINOs...you just never know.


152 posted on 05/15/2011 8:08:49 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Wolfie

What we NEED is a law that says if you don’t have insurance and cannot otherwise pay, no healthcare provider (doctor, hospital, etc.) is obligated to treat you.

I kinda agree with this. At the very least they should have their visa card ready for payment or loan papers so the hospital or tax payers are not on the hook for it.


153 posted on 05/15/2011 8:10:04 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: libstripper
If true.. then Newt is a progressive..
And if progressive not much different than Obama, the clintoons, or the Bush's...

The Vampires have a strong team..

154 posted on 05/15/2011 8:10:04 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: eyedigress
Why don’t you wait for that debate. Let’s see how he answers.

Why can't we consider how he *did* answer this morning on TV?

155 posted on 05/15/2011 8:11:58 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: MestaMachine
I actually agree with every point you made except one. I still think that Cain should not be overlooked.

The only three that I see as good for America are West, Palin and Cain at this point in time.

Things change and another viable conservative could come around, but those three are the only ones I would consider voting for in 2012.

156 posted on 05/15/2011 8:13:53 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: MestaMachine

That’s my choice, too.....Palin / West.

A conservative woman and a conservative black is the ticket to send Obummer packing.


157 posted on 05/15/2011 8:17:58 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Obama is a bigger threat to the safety of America than Osama)
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To: magritte
Gingrich has long felt that each individual should be responsible for paying for their own healthcare. Some statistics indicate 1/3 of the uninsured live in household with incomes over %75000...he believes everyone should pay on a sliding scale with vouchers going to lower income types...that’s part of his solution...

I have NO problem with individual responsibility. However, Obamacare mandates everything that has anything to do with healthcare. NO individual truly can have responsibility for their own healthcare when government commissions themselves as the controller and provider of all things healthcare.

158 posted on 05/15/2011 8:18:14 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: xjcsa

I did not see it.


159 posted on 05/15/2011 8:19:26 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: fortheDeclaration
I would like to see a variation of “Question Time” for the Republican primaries. The Anderson Cooper and Juan Williams questions are embarrassingly stupid and uninformative.

A group of conservative Congressmen and Pundits would pepper each candidate with questions about specific issues and legislation. The candidates would be forced to speak in detailed language about actual bills proposed with the people who will actually vote on them. They wouldn't be able to get away with vague generalities about very important issues.

Each candidate would have to run the gauntlet alone, but it would weed out the faint of heart, and whoever survived would be well prepared for debates with Dems.

160 posted on 05/15/2011 8:19:53 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: xzins

Thanks xzins...his PAC is like a lot of them, depending on the big donors...I’ll be curious to see when his SEC reports come out if the same names appear...


161 posted on 05/15/2011 8:20:29 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: libstripper

>> Gingrich: ...which requires every uninsured citizen to purchase or acquire health insurance.

I think Gingrich is secretly working for Ron Paul.


162 posted on 05/15/2011 8:21:41 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Artemis Webb
Newt was once a champion of conservatism.

It was a sham since it didn't last long. He's just another con man. Remember he (Mitt and Jeb) said 'The Reagan Era is Over'. If he runs on the GOP ticket, he's our enemy w/a mask on w/his global warming and socialist agenda.
163 posted on 05/15/2011 8:27:43 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

Exactly what I thought.


164 posted on 05/15/2011 8:28:29 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: MestaMachine
Your list has a glaring omission...

You mention Christie and Huntsman, but where's Bachmann? (Hiding with Waldo?)

165 posted on 05/15/2011 8:29:31 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: DaxtonBrown
I thought Newtie would at least get through the First round of Jeopardy before pouring gasoline on himself and lighting a bonfire.



166 posted on 05/15/2011 8:31:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Like his subject of expertise, he's HISTORY.

(Just D@mn, that Pelosi dame must've really been smokin' HAWT on that couch they shared.)

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Cheers!

167 posted on 05/15/2011 8:31:33 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: eyedigress
He is a very smart man, and I want to see the debates. Don’t let everything here detract you.

I guess you think he's smart because he has been able to deceive you but he hasn't deceived many. Have you been asleep or are you a troll?
168 posted on 05/15/2011 8:31:46 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: maine-iac7
*PING* to post #167 -- GMTA, especially yours.

Cheers!

169 posted on 05/15/2011 8:32:49 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: maine-iac7
*PING* to post #167 -- GMTA, especially yours.

Cheers!

170 posted on 05/15/2011 8:33:00 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: magritte
Gingrich has long felt that each individual should be responsible for paying for their own healthcare.

Great idea. People certainly should be responsible for their own healthcare.

But, if the solution is for the government to mandate that everybody must buy health insurance, not so great.

Instead, why don't we make it possible for everybody to afford health insurance...and let it go at that?

171 posted on 05/15/2011 8:33:26 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: presently no screen name

Well I must be a Troll because I don’t seem to be asleep. Report me to the troll police. Whatever happens, happens. Be sure to send my death certificate to Fairbanks. Thanks


172 posted on 05/15/2011 8:35:38 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: libstripper

Newt is delusional to think he has ANY chance. Maybe he knows that and is bitter enough to act as a spoiler.


173 posted on 05/15/2011 8:36:35 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Bush sucked at debating.

And Clinton debated at sucking: "It depends what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

People don't vote for successful debaters.

Especially not MASTER debators.

Cheers!

174 posted on 05/15/2011 8:37:16 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: All

Newt Responds to Climate Depot! A Love-Fest is Now Called A ‘Debate’?! Gingrich now claims sitting on cozy sofa with Pelosi in Gore climate ad was actually a ‘debate’

http://www.climatedepot.com/


175 posted on 05/15/2011 8:37:28 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: Pox

I am not overlooking Cain. I personally like him very much. I just don’t think he could beat obama at this point. But who knows? A year and a half is along time and I am willing to listen and learn.
IF Sarah doesn’t run.


176 posted on 05/15/2011 8:39:40 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: Pox

PS, a Palin/Cain ticket wouldn’t be too shabby either. But Palin/West....unbeatable. Period.


177 posted on 05/15/2011 8:41:34 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: savedbygrace

Exactly! And the ‘rats are using his pride because they have alot on him. He wants to play ball so bad, he’ll sell the country to do it. Newt is our enemy - no one can be mistaken about this. NY23 was just another example.


178 posted on 05/15/2011 8:47:17 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: C. Edmund Wright
...NY 23 and Newt...

Thanks for reminding me about that highly embarrassing episode. I'd almost forgotten it.

Since he left office, I've never considered Newt much more than an establishment Republican insider. In the last couple of years, I've demoted him from even that low station.

While I admire and respect his long-ago accomplishments, he's frankly lost his way, and is in no way fit to be our president.

179 posted on 05/15/2011 8:48:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MestaMachine

“But Palin/West....unbeatable. Period”
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I’m praying for that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7RKIpufStQ


180 posted on 05/15/2011 8:50:27 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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To: Just mythoughts

And that’s the rub ... Obamacare replaces the current insurance system with an exchange and the like...Gingrich’s belief is basically keeping private insurance but subsidizing the poor’s portion...world of difference between the two...


181 posted on 05/15/2011 8:51:54 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: eyedigress

You would know if you were asleep but you don’t know that Newt is the biggest RINO and an ego to match. Why don’t you know that? It is NOT hidden.


182 posted on 05/15/2011 8:52:01 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: libstripper
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183 posted on 05/15/2011 8:53:10 PM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

I love Michelle Bachmann, but she has not announced and I doubt that she would be drafted. and face it, tough as she is, Palin IS the Mama Grizzly. I don’t think Bachmann could win the nomination, although she would get a sizeable portion of TEA Party votes....IF Sarah doesn’t run.
I actually think that Bachmann is part of the reason Sarah has held back. She is giving her chance to shine, but it ain’t working for her. If it was/did, I think Sarah might have stayed back but I don’t see it happening for Michelle.


184 posted on 05/15/2011 8:54:04 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: Pox

AMEN...


185 posted on 05/15/2011 8:55:04 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
A conservative woman and a conservative black is the ticket to send Obummer packing.

to send the whole pack packing - and obummer into a full blown narcissistic melt down.

186 posted on 05/15/2011 8:57:05 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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To: libstripper
Fine. Just more votes for Sarah. Next. . .
187 posted on 05/15/2011 9:01:23 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: eyedigress
He better get a handle on this socialism or he has no chance at all.

Sorry, but Newt's not going to be able to get the toothpaste back in the tube. Too late.

188 posted on 05/15/2011 9:03:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Just mythoughts
I have NO problem with individual responsibility. However, Obamacare mandates everything that has anything to do with healthcare. NO individual truly can have responsibility for their own healthcare when government commissions themselves as the controller and provider of all things healthcare.

Spot on.

A man in Massachusetts called in to the Savage show the other day and said he pays for his own insurance - with a $10,000 deductible - and has the $10,000 set aside in a separate account for just that.

BUT

Mass. says NO. and is fining him in lieu of buying Romney Care.

It's not medical coverage they want - it's total control.

this 3,000+ page bill has much more to do with other controls over our lives than it does medical care. That is only the smoke screen.

189 posted on 05/15/2011 9:03:57 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

“A conservative woman and a conservative black is the ticket...”

Black ain’t got nothing to do with it. West is a MILITARY hero. He put his men before himself and his career. He has honor and honesty and integrity that shines like the freakin’ sun! He’s an AMERICAN and PROUD of it. Besides that he KNOWS what islam is and does upside, downside, inside, and outside. The man is a MAN like I have not seen in our political system for a very long time. And I TRUST him. How many politicians can you say that about?


190 posted on 05/15/2011 9:05:20 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: presently no screen name

Good to discuss Eh!


191 posted on 05/15/2011 9:06:17 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: terycarl
Newt is the best there is....let him debate them, cause some doubt in their voters, and nominate whom everyou choose.....never give up a weapon as effective as Newt.

Right. He just tore John Kerry apart in their global warming debate. And by "tore John Kerry apart" I mean "just told John Kerry he was right about everything." That's exactly what we need to put up against Obama.

192 posted on 05/15/2011 9:06:28 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Artemis Webb

I think he’s a champion of his own career and little else. Beware those sorts of “conservatives”. There have been an endless supply of them.


193 posted on 05/15/2011 9:06:45 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: eyedigress

Newt’s a con man - and he conned you. Proud that you can be taken in by such a low life whose intent is to deceive?


194 posted on 05/15/2011 9:09:03 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: magritte
And that’s the rub ... Obamacare replaces the current insurance system with an exchange and the like...Gingrich’s belief is basically keeping private insurance but subsidizing the poor’s portion...world of difference between the two...

One would think that after all the many years of liberals jerking Newt's chain he would learn NOT to get lost on 'details'. He could have simply said 'health care' should always remain in the private sector. The federal government has NO constitutional authority to be mandating any individual or groups to purchase 'government' controlled programs. But we are so close to single payer socialized medicine I do not see US ever going back.

195 posted on 05/15/2011 9:09:50 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: libstripper

Is Newt a Democrat now? He has lost my support if this indeed is true!


196 posted on 05/15/2011 9:12:03 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: presently no screen name

Screen, tell me who you have. You folks can attack me to death but a post turtle isn’t needed this go around.


197 posted on 05/15/2011 9:13:28 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: bluedressman
Even before Obamacare, everyone had insurance.

Wrong. Who do you think reimburses the hospitals for the uninsured, including illegal aliens? The unreimbursed costs of treating illegal aliens have shut down many hospitals and ERs near the border.

198 posted on 05/15/2011 9:35:45 PM PDT by kabar
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To: libstripper

Stick a fork in this fornicating asshole. He’s done.


199 posted on 05/15/2011 9:52:29 PM PDT by metalurgist (I Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: libstripper

Support for the individual mandate is one of those things, like Trump’s support for the Kelo decision, that’s an absolute deal breaker.


200 posted on 05/15/2011 9:57:51 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Rage all you want, looters & moochers, but the gods of the copybook headings are your masters now.)
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