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Gingrich Backs Obamacare's Individual Mandate
Newsmax ^ | May 15, 2011 | Newsmax Wires

Posted on 05/15/2011 6:07:07 PM PDT by libstripper

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To: Pox

Since he is a “jackass” in your view, tell me how you determine the one that defeats Obama. (It’s long division, BTW)


51 posted on 05/15/2011 6:35:11 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: okie01

IF there is a defense of this, is he saying everyone should have to pay for THEIR OWN health care? And that you have to either have insurance or promise to pay something for care?

That would be a lot better than saying we all have an obligation to collectively pay for everyone else’s health care, which it sure sounded like he said.


52 posted on 05/15/2011 6:35:43 PM PDT by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

The article can distort however it wants. Even before Obamacare, everyone had insurance. Just show up in an emergency room. I won’t vote for Newt simply because of his commercials with Pelosi, but healthcare is going to be a major debate so we need to hear more in depth from the candidates. David Gregory was more interested in making Newt look like a racist, which foreshadows what the press will try to make next year about. But Newt did start to lay out a few options different from Obamacare even though Gregory wasnt’ interested.


53 posted on 05/15/2011 6:36:23 PM PDT by bluedressman
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To: libstripper

...Newtster choose to blow the job or was it the other way around?


54 posted on 05/15/2011 6:38:04 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Jim Robinson
FUNG!!

Lol...the FUNG-us amoung us

55 posted on 05/15/2011 6:38:18 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Artemis Webb
Newt was once a champion of conservatism.

I wonder what happened to him that turned him into a commie...

56 posted on 05/15/2011 6:39:31 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: MestaMachine

I don’t have to worry. FReepers said 4 years of Obama leads to his demise. I sure as hell don’t have to pull those threads up do I?


57 posted on 05/15/2011 6:40:07 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress
Considering the makeup of our current voters, Obama will not easily be beaten by anyone, but many believe that anyone is better than Obama, even a RINO, and I disagree with that misguided sentiment.

In any case, I want conservative candidates who respect the Constitution in any debate for the Republican nomination, and Gingrich just proved he is unworthy of the invite to any debate, IMO.

58 posted on 05/15/2011 6:40:45 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: libstripper
Spare us any more of this schmuck.

ML/NJ

59 posted on 05/15/2011 6:41:17 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Artemis Webb

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Sunday that he strongly supports a federal mandate requiring citizens to buy health insurance....

Then I will never Vote for Him.
( I wasnt going to anyway)


60 posted on 05/15/2011 6:42:31 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: eyedigress

What the heck does that have to do with gingrich being a rino jerk? A compromised and deranged rino jerk at that.


61 posted on 05/15/2011 6:43:21 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: eyedigress; bluedressman; Tex-Con-Man
When a nominal Republican/conservative candidate says that he supports the individual mandate of Obamacare, what could he possibly say in the debate that would make him palatable to conservatives?

Newt has become the second coming of John McCain -- championing clearly unconstitutional measures in order to enhance government.

62 posted on 05/15/2011 6:43:39 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01

Newt does not support Obamacare. I need proof on that.


63 posted on 05/15/2011 6:46:52 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Buck-I-Guy

No Newt! In another thread, I said I would not even go to the polls if Mitt were the Republican nominee. Because there is no difference between Mitt and Obama, when you get right down to what they stand for.

If Newt is the nominee, I will vote for and donate to Obama. Newt is a worse totalitarian and a much more effective administrator than Obama. He can accomplish things that Obama could only dream of.


64 posted on 05/15/2011 6:47:06 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: libstripper

So, that’s what? Three? Four days? And, Newt has effectively ended his latest campaign for the WH.
The most clearly unconstitutional component of Obamacare, and he’s supportive?

Can he spell RINO?

It’s time to take back the nation. Dumping Newt would be a good start.


65 posted on 05/15/2011 6:49:07 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: richardtavor

That Globull Warming Duet he sang on the couch with Nancy was an act of Severe Mental Derangement the likes of which one doesn’t just recover from. Once you’ve become that mentally deranged, you stay mentally deranged.

No surprise that he supports Obamacare (and yes, that’s what this mandate crap means).

The shortest campaign in history.

The shortest campaign in history. Seventy two hours from blastoff to splutter-crash.

(Not that it was ever going anywhere. It’s actually merciful of him to end it now, as he has done.)


66 posted on 05/15/2011 6:49:59 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Wolfie

There are decent people who can’t get insurance despite having the ability and desire to pay for the insurance. What would you have them do?


67 posted on 05/15/2011 6:50:04 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: DaxtonBrown
Well, that was fast. I thought Newtie would at least get through the First round of Jeopardy before pouring gasoline on himself and lighting a bonfire. “I’ll take Sucking Up To Obamacare for $1,000, Alex” was not the smartest choice.
LOL!
68 posted on 05/15/2011 6:52:59 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: PubliusMM

I won’t do it. He slammed Clinton pretty hard. Tell me who is taking out the Asshat Rambo Navy Seal in Chief?


69 posted on 05/15/2011 6:53:30 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I agree that the Clinton and media attack on Newt in 95 changed him. He was never the same after that. That’s not to excuse what he is doing now, but I think you’re absolutely accurate in your theory.

I even built that into an analysis of NY 23 and Newt and Reagan and Palin in one of my best ever show preps. It made for a whopper show segment.


70 posted on 05/15/2011 6:54:53 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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To: Pox
You say: “In any case, I want conservative candidates who respect the Constitution in any debate for the Republican nomination...”

Well, here ya go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGIZtD4ufFo

“I am sick and tired of this class warfare, this Marxist, demagogic rhetoric that is coming from the President of the United States of America....Third world dictator arrogance...” Lt Col Allen West, Congressman

Revolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP2p91dvm6M

“Don’t blow sunshine up my butt and tell me it’s warm and fuzzy...put down the mike and go home!” (PC be damned!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MZx38i6iYs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkWXEvOenNY

idiot s laugh and joke about a Marine’s question to a tablefull of candidates, clueless. Only one person could answer him - who knows who our enemy is. It’s not a laughing matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkGQmCZjJ0k

at CPAC “NOW is the TIME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mf33LIEt-g

on illegal immigration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkGQmCZjJ0k

A Draft movement - save these clips and send to everyone and check out other clips on YouTube. A proved leader like this, who kow tows to NO ONE, is what we need. We need new blood in DC - NO ONE from the “Establishment.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7RKIpufStQ

He backs down to no one. He doesn't talk in “PC. He knows Islam forwards and backward. He knows, and loves, the Constitution up and down. He will stand with Israel (After a visit there last year, Israelis said they wished he could run for THEIR PM.) He's NOT part of the Establishment and things are NOT going to turn around if we let the Establishment and the MSM chose who we can have to vote for.

We stand together or we fall apart.

71 posted on 05/15/2011 6:55:04 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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To: richardtavor

Yuk. Six months of therapy will be required to get that visual out of my head......


72 posted on 05/15/2011 6:55:49 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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To: eyedigress
My main problem with this is the MSM considers him a viable candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, and this kind of language undermines what the Congressional Republicans like Michele Bachmann are trying to do to defund and deconstruct ObamaCare.

This is not helpful, and he needs to STFU!!!!!!

Republicans are trying to overturn the law while Newt wants to "tweak" it.

73 posted on 05/15/2011 6:56:10 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Wolfie

What we need is more choices in insurance. A 22 YO healthy male does not need maternity coverage; probably a high deductible catastrophic/major medical would work for such a person. But it is not available in one-size-fits-all Obamacare.... I don’t know what Newt has in mind.


74 posted on 05/15/2011 6:57:28 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: libstripper

DQ


75 posted on 05/15/2011 6:58:00 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: meyer
"I wonder what happened to him that turned him into a commie... "

Just because he supports the largest socialistic power grab in the history of the federal government does not make him a commie!

76 posted on 05/15/2011 6:58:06 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (artemis_webb@yahoo.com --Lord knows how long before I'm banned so please say hello sometime.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

You create a good argument and I will pass it on. Michelle Bachmann could use a guide. Obama has 1 billion bucks to make sure he is elected. A fracture of the base will be hard to overcome. We must have someone.


77 posted on 05/15/2011 7:01:40 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress
If it takes a RINO to oust Obama, what is the point of an election? Our freedoms are disappearing at an alarming rate, yet you seem to advocate a RINO who will only slow the slide towards full marxism in the U.S. when what we really need is a politician who is willing to adjust the course of this country 180 degrees.

Putting a RINO in will only continue to display to those who do not follow politics closely, and mind you that is probably 80-90% of the public, that it really doesn't matter who is in the White House so they may as well vote for their favorite “team” or a “novelty” candidate, which is another reason we have Obama in the White House at this time.

Let the dems continue to run this country into the ground if necessary so that the majority of voters will wake up and understand who and what are truly ruining this country. Some are starting to pay attention, but it isn't yet enough to actually get past the clueless and the parasites.

78 posted on 05/15/2011 7:01:40 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: savedbygrace
I think DOA would be a more appropriate acronym for Newt's chances given his support for Obama's individual mandate and the way he totally capitulated to Pelosi's greenie crap.

Go away, Newt. You're long past your use-by date. You're rancid.
79 posted on 05/15/2011 7:01:48 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Wolfie
What we NEED is a law that says if you don’t have insurance and cannot otherwise pay, no healthcare provider (doctor, hospital, etc.) is obligated to treat you.
 
While I think I understand where this is coming from, it presents some problems for me depending on what you mean with the phrase "and cannot otherwise pay".
 
Take the hypothetical situation of an automobile wreck.  One of the passengers, a 3-year old child, is critically injured and is taken to the hospital emergency room for trauma treatment.  I don't like the thought of the medical personnel delaying life-saving treatment arguing whether the patient can pay for the treatment.
 
Now, after the child's life has been saved the question comes up as to who should pay for the treatment.  In this hypothetical case, the parent says he was recently laid off from the plant and has no insurance at the moment.  He nevertheless should be held liable for the cost of treatment, even if it means he pays $25 per month for 10 years...and more if/when he secures gainful employment again.  In other words, he should pay what he can pay, even if it is a "token" amount.

80 posted on 05/15/2011 7:01:54 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Gingrich always thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. That’s one of his larger faults,


81 posted on 05/15/2011 7:03:34 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Pox

Pick one. Then you can yell at me.


82 posted on 05/15/2011 7:06:27 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: LtKerst

Re #60:

You know I wasn’t going to vote for him either, not because he’s a “RINO” but because I believed he has too much personal baggage to run an effective campaign. Now the dumb ass goes off and stakes out a position on the most controversial and opposed part of Obama’s platform that is to the left of EVERY major potential GOP candidate. Hell even Romney at least claims to oppose the federal plan.

I was willing to defend Gingrich to a great extent even though I would not vote for him in the primaries. Now he’s made any defense of him impossible even for centrist Republicans.


83 posted on 05/15/2011 7:06:42 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (artemis_webb@yahoo.com --Lord knows how long before I'm banned so please say hello sometime.)
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To: maine-iac7
He deserves a shot, I have no problem with him being in the “debates”. I don't want the RINO’s to even be considered, and I think we all know exactly who those losers are, or at least most of us do.
84 posted on 05/15/2011 7:07:38 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: libstripper

If Newt thinks the commerce clause covers forcing people to buy anything: bubble gum, NutriSystem meals, DVD’s of Michael Moore movies, or health care, he has lost his mind.


85 posted on 05/15/2011 7:09:54 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

No way.


86 posted on 05/15/2011 7:10:56 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress
I've picked several, and none are RINO’s, and Gingrich is not one I will vote for in any capacity.

We nominate a conservative, or I vote for nobody or write in my own candidate (unless the Tea Party fields a conservative if necessary) in 2012, and I suspect there are many, many more in America who will have the same mindset.

Winning at any cost is not the solution.

87 posted on 05/15/2011 7:11:35 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Wolfie
What we NEED is a law that says if you don’t have insurance and cannot otherwise pay, no healthcare provider (doctor, hospital, etc.) is obligated to treat you.

Not going to happen, far too many liberal "feelers" out there. County hospitals and their staffs are required by law to attend to those who seek help. What would you do with the "homeless " person who slips and breaks a leg??? Because health care is not a right, no doctor, except one paid by the government, can be required to treat you. In an emergency, tornado etc, they all come forward and give treatment where necessary.....however, routine health care should remain up to the individual.

88 posted on 05/15/2011 7:11:53 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: libstripper

Gosh, that was a short campaign! Adios, Newted!


89 posted on 05/15/2011 7:13:26 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: eyedigress

“I want to see the debates. Don’t let everything here detract you.”

Newt has always been able to talk the talk. Walking is what gives him problems.


90 posted on 05/15/2011 7:14:35 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Pox

Who was that again? I’ll make it easier for you......... any favorites?


91 posted on 05/15/2011 7:15:04 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

What’s the problem, you don’t actually recognize any of the conservatives who are poised to run?


92 posted on 05/15/2011 7:16:16 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: bwc2221

I would like for you to justify that statement.


93 posted on 05/15/2011 7:17:02 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Pox

I want to know who you support. I kinda simple really.


94 posted on 05/15/2011 7:18:36 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: bluedressman

Newt may not be backing “obamacare”but he’s definitely in favor of forcing everyone to buy insurance or post a bond, and for the govt(taxpayers)to subsidize the whole mess.


95 posted on 05/15/2011 7:18:46 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Buck-I-Guy

Unfortunately, egomaniacs like newt don’t go away.


96 posted on 05/15/2011 7:20:01 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: ak267

You forgot Paul.


97 posted on 05/15/2011 7:21:46 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: MestaMachine

No denying Newt has problems. But that won’t be a showstopper for a lot of voters out there.


98 posted on 05/15/2011 7:21:59 PM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding their comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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To: browniexyz
Anyone else wondering why Newt, Pawlenty, Mitt Romney, Mitch Daniels, Huck and other assorted LOSERS are being floated by the MSM for Present?

let's see...during the Carter administration, the Democrats and the MSM chose that total loser reagan as their opponent...he didn't do too badly as I recall...I believe that Daniels, with a lot of campaigning of course, could win a landslide over Obama. His record in Indiana is formidable!!!

99 posted on 05/15/2011 7:22:08 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: eyedigress
I don't “support” anyone at this time, but I want to see conservatives running for the job and debating each other while the RINO’s should be shunned and barred from the process.

There are currently 3 who I think are conservative enough to change the course of self destruction this country is taking.

I'm curious to know if you can identify those 3 conservatives.

100 posted on 05/15/2011 7:22:38 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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