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Gingrich Backs Obamacare's Individual Mandate Requiring Health Insurance (Newt praises Romneycare)
NBC Meet the Press via Newsmax ^ | 2011-05-15 | Tim Collie

Posted on 05/15/2011 10:15:58 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: excopconservative
Most of the rest of us will choose the best human running and for most that will be Palin.

I guess when we have to deal with four more years of zero we can blame the "most of the rest of us."
51 posted on 05/16/2011 1:21:43 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: rabscuttle385
"Palin shilled for McCain and has a dubious stance on amnesty."

So if I single you out among all the 330 million people who live in this country to be my running mate and potentially be the Vice President of the United States, you would show your loyalty by back-stabbing me two years later when I want to run for re-election to my senate seat? Thanks for the warning.

52 posted on 05/16/2011 1:56:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (How do you starve an Obama supporter? Hide his food stamps under his work boots.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Nice job nuking your campaign, Newt.

Gingrich, Paul, Pawlenty, Romney...

As 0bama steamrolls toward reelection with a $1B campaign war chest, we`re going up against him with one of the weakest GOP fields in memory.

Let`s just nominate some old RINO ticket and get it over with....

“Staying in the Squishy Center is the Highest Form of Patriotism!!”

Dick Lugar/Chuck Hagel 2012!!


53 posted on 05/16/2011 2:22:13 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Sadly, I agree! What about Gov. Walker from WI?


54 posted on 05/16/2011 2:40:23 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: rabscuttle385

Yeah, Paultard. Your guy has imploded repeatedly over the years (including recently with his statement that he would not have approved the bin Laden raid), but he isn’t on your list above. Wonder why?


55 posted on 05/16/2011 3:21:52 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: presently no screen name
Surely you aren't still harping on the McCain nonsense. Any conservative (and others) see /understand her loyalty. So you still harping on it says more about who/what you are then who/what SARAH is.

Rabs is a Paultard. 'nuff said.

56 posted on 05/16/2011 3:23:01 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: rabscuttle385
Conservatives need to draw the line and start supporting candidates who consistently adhere to conservative values and who steadfastly advocate for conservative positions, no exceptions.

Back in 1986...

Reagan's words and deeds regarding immigration were equally expansive. At a ceremony at Ellis Island in 1982, he spoke movingly of immigrants who "possessed a determination that with hard work and freedom, they would live a better life and their children even more so." As with trade, Reagan's record on immigration was mixed. He signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, which included stepped up border enforcement and sanctions against employers who knowingly hire illegal workers. But that legislation also legalized 2.8 million undocumented workers. More immigrants entered the United States legally under President Reagan's watch than under any previous U.S. president since Teddy Roosevelt. Cato.org 4/24/04

It's unfortunate that the twentieth century's greatest president wouldn't past muster with your "no exceptions" policy.

57 posted on 05/16/2011 3:25:26 AM PDT by floozy22 (The left has an irrational devotion to protecting evil.)
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To: rabscuttle385

And Newt bashes Ryan.


58 posted on 05/16/2011 3:45:34 AM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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To: Carley

Newt bashes Ryan because Ryan is a Conservative. Newt is a Progressive (read: Fascist with Communist underpinnings).


59 posted on 05/16/2011 3:47:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Based on this Romney is the GOP’s candidate and Newt has entered the race to market Romney’s nanny static idiocy to the middle and rightwng voters


60 posted on 05/16/2011 3:50:37 AM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: rabscuttle385

Based on this Romney is the GOP’s candidate and Newt has entered the race to market Romney’s nanny static idiocy to the middle and rightwng voters


61 posted on 05/16/2011 3:50:45 AM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: rabscuttle385
I mean, seriously, the field of Republican candidates is so far nothing more than a sick joke, and unless a dark horse (and I’m not talking about Bachmann here) emerges

Herman Cain, after he admits that he was having a major brain fart in '08 when he supported Romney.

62 posted on 05/16/2011 4:24:28 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10:19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Newt is a RINO at best, probably a liberal at heart.


63 posted on 05/16/2011 4:35:54 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama did not learn incompetence; he was born to it.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Newt positioning himself as Romney’s VP?


64 posted on 05/16/2011 4:36:24 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I liked Newt right up till the day he threw a tantrum about getting a bad seat on Air Force One. It’s been all downhill since then.


65 posted on 05/16/2011 4:40:51 AM PDT by BfloGuy
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To: rabscuttle385

I expected no less from Beltway Newt. Why the hell is he even running?


66 posted on 05/16/2011 4:42:04 AM PDT by Puddleglum (dance with the horse that brung ya)
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To: FrankR

That sums up everything I don’t like about Newt.


67 posted on 05/16/2011 4:46:03 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: rabscuttle385
It's not nonsense - she went to Arizona to shill for a full-on leftist Obama lap dog and defend him on immigration.

You're right. Actions matter. Conservativse who wink at Palin's endorsement of McCain (thinking they know her true motives) are no different than liberals who excuse Obama's deviations from leftist orthodoxy by claiming it's just "campaigning".

If we have to read tea leaves to discern a candidate's beliefs, he (or she) is not the right one.

68 posted on 05/16/2011 4:46:24 AM PDT by BfloGuy
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To: rabscuttle385

(Folks, it appears that the Republican Party has imploded with respect to the 2012 elections.)

I disagree. The last thing we need is a repeat of the last election when there were too many conservatives and liberals coalesced around McCain. In this election we have several liberals, and I hope that conservatives coalesce around Sarah Palin, a true conservative who is the best at consistently enunciate Reagan’s conservative principles. She has defeated Obama’s talking points over and over, and her simple sound bites (such as “death panels”) have cut through the media clutter and taken over the culture. She is also fearless, and in the mode of Ronald Reagan, a “happy warrior”.


69 posted on 05/16/2011 4:46:36 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: Reagan Man

Newt is toast.


70 posted on 05/16/2011 4:56:52 AM PDT by Roklok
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To: rabscuttle385
Conservatives need to draw the line and start supporting candidates who consistently adhere to conservative values and who steadfastly advocate for conservative positions, no exceptions.

Well, that eliminated RuPaul and his wild shrimp earmarks and his nitwit ideas about foreign policy.

Unfortunately for the Republican Party, that pretty much rules out about most of their "mainstream" candidates.

And you offer us RuPaul as an alternative - but aren't honest enough to admit such on this thread. But your posting history betrays your motives.

71 posted on 05/16/2011 4:58:39 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: presently no screen name
Tell us WHO is the conservative that fits the bill for you in '12?

He's too dishonest to come out and admit he's a Paultard. But look at who his list in post 8 excludes - quite telling.

He'll snipe at pubbies - some of it justified and some of it quite a stretch - to disparage all but RuPaul. Never mind Paul saying he would not have approved the bin Laden raid - to Rabs, that's probably a positive.

72 posted on 05/16/2011 5:02:12 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: rabscuttle385
Palin shilled for McCain and has a dubious stance on amnesty.

Yeah, and you pushed for an AZ senate candidate in 2010 who compared the border fence to the Berlin Wall.

So by your own standards, you are no conservative, Rabs.

This is a fun game. Too bad it's a circular firing squad when played your way, Rabs.

73 posted on 05/16/2011 5:07:19 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: rabscuttle385
yet another reason NOT to vote for this senile old POS country club rino
74 posted on 05/16/2011 5:12:53 AM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: Free Vulcan
Newt is a very intelligent man but he’s also very mentally undisciplined and unprincipled.

If he is so intelligent, he sure does a great job of hiding it.

75 posted on 05/16/2011 5:20:03 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: rabscuttle385; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...
RE :”I mean, seriously, the field of Republican candidates is so far nothing more than a sick joke, and unless a dark horse (and I’m not talking about Bachmann here) emerges, I think we’re looking at four more years of Obama, largely thanks to Republican incompetence and ineptitude

I don't like Newt at all but I saw some of this interview and it was the moderator that called Newt's position a ‘personal mandate’ to make it sound like Obama-care. Newt's position was that the individual could post bonds to be used for their needed emergency care, then not need-to buy health insurance to cover it. This is much like the auto insurance.

As long as Republicans support mandating hospitals provide ‘free’ care to the uninsured that have no assets or visible income, then some sort of guarantee that the individual will pay for it is needed. But it is only needed for the free emergency care that the federal government mandates on hospitals, not the over-bloated Romney or Obama-care. In fact there is a much bigger problem than this : medicaid for nursing homes, and it will only get worse.

You dont see the House Republicans proposing lifting that mandates on hospitals do you? It's not even a debate.

76 posted on 05/16/2011 5:48:31 AM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: dirtboy
He's too dishonest to come out and admit he's a Paultard. But look at who his list in post 8 excludes - quite telling.

Who does it exclude? Ron Paul is in the list, right in between Palin and Gingrich.

77 posted on 05/16/2011 6:17:13 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

I could never vote for Newt Gingrich but I do appreciate he is at least telling us what he will/will not do. I just wish all the others contenders would do the same so we could have some truth from them.


78 posted on 05/16/2011 6:18:41 AM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: dirtboy
Your guy has imploded repeatedly over the years (including recently with his statement that he would not have approved the bin Laden raid), but he isn’t on your list above.

Go back and read post 8 again. I understand that it's Monday morning, but that was precisely the reason I'm disgusted with him.

79 posted on 05/16/2011 6:19:09 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: bwc2221
You are looking for the perfect candidate who is 100% pure in your eyes.

No, I'm looking for a candidate who's actually a conservative.

You're just willing to settle for something less than a conservative...like a RINO.

80 posted on 05/16/2011 6:22:58 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: DangerZone
Who are you supporting, rabs?

As of right now, no one.

81 posted on 05/16/2011 6:23:43 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

I stand corrected regarding RuPaul. My other critiques stand. You backed a guy in 2010 who compared the border fence to the Berlin Wall. You don’t get purity in political candidates. If you can get 80 percent you’re having a very good day.


82 posted on 05/16/2011 6:34:41 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: rabscuttle385; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...
RE :”I mean, seriously, the field of Republican candidates is so far nothing more than a sick joke, and unless a dark horse (and I’m not talking about Bachmann here) emerges, I think we’re looking at four more years of Obama, largely thanks to Republican incompetence and ineptitude.

I agree completely. Republicans do best when in the complete minority and can win just opposing bills.

A real Republican candidate would be working with House Republicans to propose and SELL bills that put Obama on the defensive, and split him from his base. No, the Ryan plan does the opposite, even he is running from it now. Republican candidates that repudiate 'house' (conservative) proposals are just the same old. They will just propose more spending.

83 posted on 05/16/2011 6:37:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: rabscuttle385

Newt is insane and is committing public sepuku.

Can we move on now and not post anymore newt stories?


84 posted on 05/16/2011 7:00:45 AM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization that must be outlawed)
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To: rabscuttle385
So his thought is run to the left of Obama?

I saw another FReeper who said they thought he was better than this. When he "announced" on Hannity he sounded tough as nails, but after this he can go away.

I'll stick with Trump till they run an actual conservative.

Romney is a lib, Pawlenty is a lib, I like Cain he is an unknown though an I don't see him gaining anytime soon, Ron Paul - legalization??? = death to the nation.

And for the PAULestinians please watch 24 hours of the TV show "Intervention" and tell me if you can still support Mr. Legalization Ron Paul...

85 posted on 05/16/2011 9:42:46 AM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!!)
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To: rabscuttle385

To take broad liberties with Winston Churchill’s quote...

When it comes to the Republican party, “Never have so many owed so little to a party with so much to work with.”

You’ve got a traitor at the helm, and you can’t find the gumption to appeal to your base enough to take him down? What the hell is going on here?

For years people have been saying the Republican party might just as well be a wing of the Democrat party, and low and behold the Republican presidential contenders for 2012 are proving them right.

Absolutely disgusting!

If anything, the Republican party seems convinced it must move even further Left to gain appeal. I’ve never been so disgusted with the Republican party. If they can’t pull their heads out enough to get their act together under a guy like this, of what use are they to us?

As Ronald Reagan said in reference to the Democrat party, “I didn’t leave it. It left me.”

As for the Republican party and me, ditto to the X.


86 posted on 05/16/2011 9:44:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Tell me you haven't asked yourself what mistake Obama made, that wound up causing Laden's death?)
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To: rabscuttle385
Palin shilled for McCain and has a dubious stance on amnesty.
When McCain picked Palin for VP, we were thrilled to have at least one good candidate on our ticket. But in hindsight, it's a shame that he offered her the position. When he offered it, she had to accept - and when she accepted, she had to support John McCain.
Had she not been tapped for VP, she could have stayed in the governorship of Alaska, and retained her high approval rating there. From there, she could have hit Iowa in 2011 like a thunderbolt from the blue.

87 posted on 05/16/2011 10:19:42 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: rabscuttle385

What is keeping you from supporting Bachmann?


88 posted on 05/16/2011 10:30:17 AM PDT by DangerZone
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To: DoughtyOne

It all makes sense once you realize the GOP leadership would rather see Zero reelected than have one of us horrible conservatives win.


89 posted on 05/16/2011 10:49:21 AM PDT by DangerZone
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To: DangerZone

I believe that to be true, and have for some time.


90 posted on 05/16/2011 10:52:06 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Tell me you haven't asked yourself what mistake Obama made, that wound up causing Laden's death?)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; Liz
Newt Stumbles Out of the Gate


91 posted on 05/16/2011 12:24:29 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Good one. Next time find a horse with a 15 on his blanket. ;^)


92 posted on 05/16/2011 1:48:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Tell me you haven't asked yourself what mistake Obama made, that wound up causing Laden's death?)
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To: Sun
Newt ended his chances the same day he declared. Now that’s a first.

Newt just ended his run for the White House on the Republican ticket.

93 posted on 05/16/2011 3:39:43 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama is a fraud. The founders gave us the tool of impeachment for a reason.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne

A bit young for senile dementia, but Newt made it happen ;-)


94 posted on 05/16/2011 3:41:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker
Next time find a horse with a 15 on his blanket. ;^)

15 for May 15? !5 years ago?

95 posted on 05/16/2011 4:00:25 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Well, so much for this guy bringing to a possible ticket his wise political acumen and knowledge based upon a lifetime of experience.

Way to go there Newt.

Keep going.

And going

Gone.

Good.

96 posted on 05/16/2011 4:04:48 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Good point. There is nobody worth a damn running right now. It is like they were hand picked by Obama’s inner circle.


97 posted on 05/16/2011 4:09:28 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: rabscuttle385

The picture with Newt and Pelosi on ads for Global warming is always fitting if I only knew how to post it.


98 posted on 05/16/2011 4:45:36 PM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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To: Rapscallion

So you’re thinking he would go 3rd party?


99 posted on 05/16/2011 9:34:59 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Like his subject of expertise, he's HISTORY.

(Just D@mn, that Pelosi dame must've really been smokin' HAWT on that couch they shared.)

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Cheers!

100 posted on 05/16/2011 9:56:37 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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