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NEW STORY: Japanese nuke co. admits meltdown occurred 16 hours after quake...
The Manachi Daily News via the Drudge Report ^ | 5/16/2011

Posted on 05/16/2011 1:29:19 PM PDT by Sprite518

Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) admitted for the first time on May 15 that most of the fuel in one of its nuclear reactors at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant had melted only about 16 hours after the March 11 earthquake struck a wide swath of northeastern Japan and triggered a devastating tsunami.

(Excerpt) Read more at mdn.mainichi.jp ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fukushima; japan; meltdown; nuclear; quake; tepco
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To: justa-hairyape
You do know that the Japanese just recently expanded the evacuation zone ? That is usually not a sign that things are improving.

There is radioactive material on the ground, that is not good. Don't stand in it. The clean up will begin soon....why all the predictions of doom?

21 posted on 05/16/2011 2:21:30 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: God luvs America

Actually, if you do a bit more reading..TEPCO had indicated that the plant may have been compromised before the tsunami.

Given their history, it is quite possible their safety measures..or lack thereof... contributed to this mess.


22 posted on 05/16/2011 2:22:49 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: ScreamingFist
I was referring to this event not some one-time release.

but, you think what you want.

23 posted on 05/16/2011 2:27:50 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: God luvs America

The issue is that there is a chunk of land uninhabitable for at least 30 years if things work out.If they don’t give it 50 years to a century for there to be people living there again.


24 posted on 05/16/2011 2:28:50 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: justa-hairyape

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/05/asahi-shinbun-core-meltdown-in-reactors.html

“Fun to see the spin by one of the MSM in Japan. Now they are all saying core meltdown, complete core meltdown, we knew from the beginning, we knew in March. It’s hysterically comical.

Particularly hilarious is Haruki Madarame, who now basically says “we knew that”, while he was the one who told the PM on March 12, “Don’t worry, the nuclear reactor doesn’t break.”

Yes, there were nuclear experts and independent journalists in Japan and around the world who said it was a meltdown, and they were attacked by the government and the MSM like Asahi as “fear-mongering”. I thought so too, after reading the entries on wiki on Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, and corium, among others.

But it isn’t true until the official, government-approved sources say so, and it is now, after more than 2 months: complete core meltdown in all three operating Reactors at Fukushima I.

What’s next? Recriticality, maybe, announced in two months or so?

Quick and dirty translation, subject to later revision.”

Kind of like a very few people here who suspected what was taking place..but were attacked relentlessly on this forum...

AHEM...


25 posted on 05/16/2011 2:32:10 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: ScreamingFist
....why all the predictions of doom?

Just reporting reality. You have a problem with reality ? Beginning to think I was somehow transferred to an alternate universe, while I was driving through a massive West Texas wildfire a few months ago. The smoke, fire and tumbleweeds went on for hours. In this new alternate universe, exploding nuclear reactor buildings are nothing to worry about.

26 posted on 05/16/2011 2:33:18 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Del Rapier

Yea, and that chunk of land around Hiroshima and Nagasaki has been uninhabited since we dropped bombs on them, right?

What’s that? Oh, I’m not going to get some future real estate as bargain-basement prices?

Darn.


27 posted on 05/16/2011 2:34:12 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: justa-hairyape

At TMI, they also had hundreds of thousands of gallons of cooling water in the concrete structure below the vessel as well.

I still don’t see any three-headed people in eastern PA.


28 posted on 05/16/2011 2:35:43 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Sprite518

there never was a doubt the jamapanese were lying. They always lied at that power plant.

The only new information is the when they knew.


29 posted on 05/16/2011 2:35:43 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: NVDave
I still don’t see any three-headed people in eastern PA.

They voted for Obama....coincidence?

30 posted on 05/16/2011 2:37:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Del Rapier
A picture of the actual article in the Asahi Shimbum in reference to the Cesium found in Tokoyo.

http://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=3304636&postcount=7433

http://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=3304632&postcount=7432

"Regarding the article discussing cesium found in Tokyo:

Although I didn't sight the actual Asahi article myself, I read the article that was copy & pasted onto the Japanese website, as well as the newspaper clipping that was linked, and they both look to be legitimate. The samplings were apparently taken at various locations in Tokyo, Chiba, Saitama, Ibaraki, and Fukushima. The earliest sample is from March 19th (Fukushima, 27650 becquerels/kilo). The most recent sample was taken on April 20th from the city of Tateyama in Chiba (127 becquerels/kilo) and the city of Kamisu in Ibaraki (455 becquerels/kilo). Tokyo's highest reading was from Kameido in the suburb of Koto-ku (3201 becquerels/kilo) sampled on April 16th. "
31 posted on 05/16/2011 2:38:50 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: justa-hairyape
The smoke, fire and tumbleweeds went on for hours.

I can relate to that.....having seen it myself. I can't relate to people on FR that believe what is going on in Japan is anything more than a localized disaster. It's the same as the Texas/Oklahoma wildfires....not something you want to endure....but recoverable from a residents standpoint......frankly the Texas/Oklahoma wildfires have killed more people that the "nuclear meltdown" you are so worried about.

32 posted on 05/16/2011 2:43:22 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: RummyChick

Was Fukushima a China Syndrome?
http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2011/05/16/was-fukushima-a-china-syndrome/

“Eight months after the Three Mile Island accident, “an Oak Ridge National Laboratory scientist declared, ‘Little, if any, fuel melting occurred, even though the reactor core was uncovered. The safety systems functioned reliably.’ A few years later, robotic sorties into the area revealed that half the core — not ‘little, if any’ — had melted down.””

Btw, the core in Reaction 1 melted down before the venting and the explosion..imagine what was released when those two events happened.


33 posted on 05/16/2011 2:49:34 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

The readings at the actual plant,not to mention within the reactors should be something else entirely.


34 posted on 05/16/2011 2:53:30 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: RummyChick
Btw, the core in Reaction 1 melted down before the venting and the explosion..imagine what was released when those two events happened.

The Tsunami killed 30,000 or so.....what's the toll for the radiation? Make sure to link it....

35 posted on 05/16/2011 3:06:20 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: ScreamingFist

And I can’t relate or even fathom people that are so clueless as to think Fukushima is a localized disaster.

The ramifications are mind boggling.

I suspect lurking behind the reluctant release of info from the beginning ..in a small part..had to do with credit default swaps and the unwinding of yen carry trades.

Japan MUST have trade surplus because of their leverage.
I repeat..MUST have trade surplus.

They are the second highest foreign owner of our debt.

A big portion of their Government Bonds are held by Japanese corporations.

The financial ramifications are huge.

And NO it does not just effect Japan.

Remember the banking crisis????

In 2008.

It didn’t just effect the US.


36 posted on 05/16/2011 3:11:23 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: bvw

In case you find any of their data interesting:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/betu11_e/images/110515e10.pdf


37 posted on 05/16/2011 3:12:42 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: ScreamingFist

By all means, if you think radiation isn’t a problem ..go live in a house by Fukushima and eat the fish and the produce etc.

I can’t relate to your cluelessness.

This is a HUGE event for the entire world.

But keep your blinders on...

Or perhaps you just don’t understand global economic ramifications...


38 posted on 05/16/2011 3:14:08 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
And I can’t relate or even fathom people that are so clueless as to think Fukushima is a localized disaster.

I'll ask you again. What is the death count from the Fukushima "melt downs".

39 posted on 05/16/2011 3:15:14 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: justa-hairyape
“Sorry pal. Nuclear power is dead. Deader then dead. “

Awesome!!
Let's fire up those coal plants and hunt for whales once again.

If you want to get rid of nuclear; let's hear your solutions for generating abundant; inexpensive electricity?

Because the rest of world is leaving us in the dust:

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf17.html

And don't forget coal:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1223/p01s04-sten.html

40 posted on 05/16/2011 3:18:53 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Those who endured Valley Forge didn't make their sacrifice to give us free health care)
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