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'Die Welt': Iran building rocket bases in Venezuela
JPOST ^ | Monday May 16, 2011 | BENJAMIN WEINTHAL,

Posted on 05/16/2011 5:48:11 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

German paper says Iranians paid cash to build mid-range missile launch pads on Paraguana Peninsula; Iranian engineers visited site in Feb.

BERLIN – The Iranian government is moving forward with the construction of rocket launch bases in Venezuela, the German daily Die Welt wrote in its Friday edition.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is Teheran’s most important South American ally.

Iran is building intermediate- range missile launch pads on the Paraguaná Peninsula, and engineers from a construction firm – Khatam al-Anbia – owned by the Revolutionary Guards visited Paraguaná in February. Amir al-Hadschisadeh, the head of the Guard’s Air Force, participated in the visit, according to the report. Die Welt cited information from “Western security insiders.”

The rocket bases are to include measures to prevent air attacks on Venezuela as well as commando and control stations.

The Iranian military involvement in the project extends to bunker, barracks and watch tower construction. Twenty-meter deep rocket silos are planned. The cost of the Venezuelan military project is being paid for with Iranian oil revenue.

According to Die Welt, the clandestine agreement between Venezuela and Iran would mean the Chavez government would fire rocket at Iran’s enemies should the Islamic Republic face military strikes

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; cubanmisslecrisis2; democrats; elections; iran; missilecrisis; obama; venezuela
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Remember when he heard about this story last year? Oh boy, Cuban Missile Crisis II? Now we have more details
1 posted on 05/16/2011 5:48:19 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

Wow, Obama’s own Cuban missile crisis! Can’t wait to see him call Venezuela’s and Iran’s bluff... not!


2 posted on 05/16/2011 5:51:19 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Persae Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Bigtigermike

The only reason Iran is doing this is to attack the U.S.A. with nuclear weapons.

We should take out those missile launch sites NOW!


3 posted on 05/16/2011 5:51:43 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NOT FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: Bigtigermike

Iran is building a training course for future US Navy Seal teams eh?


4 posted on 05/16/2011 5:51:59 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I've got that freshly screwed feeling)
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To: CatoRenasci

His toughest move would be to request a letter of condemnation from the UN.


5 posted on 05/16/2011 5:53:12 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Bigtigermike
Summary of the Monroe Doctrine
6 posted on 05/16/2011 5:55:00 PM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin
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To: SatinDoll

He doesn’t currently have any missiles which can reach the US from Chavez land.


7 posted on 05/16/2011 5:57:53 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Bigtigermike

The White Hut is celebrating!


8 posted on 05/16/2011 5:59:38 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Of course Obama will do NOTHING about this. We will have to wait for two years and nuclear missiles being placed before a single thing will be done.


9 posted on 05/16/2011 6:00:21 PM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: Bigtigermike

Premier Hussein doesn’t have the stones to pull off a Cuban Missile Crisis; and besides, he and Chavez are buddies...


10 posted on 05/16/2011 6:01:01 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Destroyers and usurpers! Curse them!!)
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To: CatoRenasci

Hell I can’t wait to see the MSM report it (bet they don’t anytime soon.) If a crisis goes down in the woods...


11 posted on 05/16/2011 6:03:15 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: driftdiver
He doesn’t currently have any missiles which can reach the US from Chavez land.

The word 'currently' does not lend much comfort.
12 posted on 05/16/2011 6:05:43 PM PDT by verum ago (Ok, you read this, you can take your bifocals off again)
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To: Bigtigermike

No doubt the undocumented Imam already gave them
targeting info against America for his 57 states.


13 posted on 05/16/2011 6:05:56 PM PDT by Diogenesis ( Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Bigtigermike

Comparing Mr. Obama to Presidents Kennedy or Reagan leaves me wondering whether to laugh or cry.


14 posted on 05/16/2011 6:06:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (How do you starve an Obama supporter? Hide his food stamps under his work boots.)
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To: verum ago

....and just the ability to threaten our Allies in the region can do enough to destabilize all of South America...right in our back yard


15 posted on 05/16/2011 6:08:44 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: verum ago

I think the range is currently 1800 miles which won’t even hit the keys from the closest point in Venz.

Another 500 miles or so to hit Miami.


16 posted on 05/16/2011 6:11:30 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

What worries me isn’t Iran or Venezuela’s current technology, or further development thereof, but rather the prospect of Iran/Venezuela acquiring a more capable design from another country by what ever means. They could do so rather abruptly.


17 posted on 05/16/2011 6:17:16 PM PDT by verum ago (Ok, you read this, you can take your bifocals off again)
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To: CatoRenasci
How convenient for Obama to "WAG THE DOG" in mid October 2012 sur de la frontera in Venezuela when the charges by his GOP opponent of being soft on national security start to stick and tank his numbers.

And he has shown the Machiavellian propensity to order the strikes and order "the kill shot" just to increase his rise in the popularity polls. Actually, being a committed Marxist-Leninist from his earlier days, it does not surprise me that he has a killer instinct.

My take? He will let this fester and fester for months, and then pull a Cuban missile crisis in the final days of the reelection campaign. Idiots who know nothing and are easily "flipped" will whoop and holler and yell "USA!" in droves and reelect this bastard on the strength of that alone, even with 23% unemployment and $6 for gas. Obama knows American mass mentality. Believe me, he will leverage it. And at the right time. He is also surrounded by opportunitists who would not only encourage him into this action, but fully support him as well.

18 posted on 05/16/2011 6:21:51 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (FreeRepublic's frontline citizen reporter in Japan (among others). -- AiT)
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To: driftdiver

So what. I see no reason to wait until they do.


19 posted on 05/16/2011 6:23:35 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NOT FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: verum ago

I found a story from Jerusalem Post which didn’t have good news. Old article but said Iran got some missiles from North Korea which would have the range to hit the US. Plus their ability to put small payloads in orbit means they could put a very small warhead (300 Kg) on Washington.

http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief005-26.htm

I checked Google earth. Its 1800 km from Venz to the southern tip of the US. The above article says those NK weapons have ranges of 2500 -3500KM.


20 posted on 05/16/2011 6:24:33 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: CatoRenasci

Where is the Monroe Doctrine when we need it?


21 posted on 05/16/2011 6:26:08 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: driftdiver
I checked Google earth. Its 1800 km from Venz to the southern tip of the US. The above article says those NK weapons have ranges of 2500 -3500KM.

That's just lovely. If it's 1800 km from Venezuela to the US, then 3500 km has got to put pretty much the whole East Coast in range, right?
22 posted on 05/16/2011 6:32:18 PM PDT by verum ago (Ok, you read this, you can take your bifocals off again)
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To: Bigtigermike

No problem, let’s go bomb Libya.


23 posted on 05/16/2011 6:33:48 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: verum ago; Bigtigermike
What worries me isn’t Iran or Venezuela’s current technology

Exactly. Once the bases are built, nothing exists to prevent a better class of missiles from being based there.

In any case, its a provocation. A real attack would probably come in a container ship, maybe several container ships simultaneously. They are building these bases to rub our noses in it.

24 posted on 05/16/2011 6:34:17 PM PDT by marron
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To: AmericanInTokyo
My take? He will let this fester and fester for months, and then pull a Cuban missile crisis in the final days of the reelection campaign. Idiots who know nothing and are easily "flipped" will whoop and holler and yell "USA!"

That would piss off the Hispanics voters. Obama does nothing OTOH Columbia ....

25 posted on 05/16/2011 6:35:58 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obamanomics: Introducing the new "Fun Size" American Dollar.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
How convenient for Obama to "WAG THE DOG" in mid October 2012 sur de la frontera in Venezuela when the charges by his GOP opponent of being soft on national security start to stick and tank his numbers.

You may well be right.

26 posted on 05/16/2011 6:38:21 PM PDT by marron
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks Bigtigermike.
Iran is building intermediate- range missile launch pads on the Paraguaná Peninsula, and engineers from a construction firm-- Khatam al-Anbia -- owned by the Revolutionary Guards visited Paraguaná in February.

27 posted on 05/16/2011 6:45:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Bigtigermike

Thank god Chavez is a peaceful man of the people or this would be concerning. :)


28 posted on 05/16/2011 6:45:57 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Bigtigermike
....and just the ability to threaten our Allies in the region can do enough to destabilize all of South America...right in our back yard

Do we have any. I thought 0 had pissed them all off already.

29 posted on 05/16/2011 6:50:11 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (How much longer can the charade last?)
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To: verum ago

Yeah 3500 km goes all the way up to the very southern tip of Maine. over to the eastern great lakes and down to eastern texas.

I’m using google earth’s rulers function. You place one point in Venz and then you can swing the other end of the line anywhere you want and it tells you the distance.


30 posted on 05/16/2011 6:50:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Tzimisce

31 posted on 05/16/2011 6:51:23 PM PDT by Diogenesis ( Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Bigtigermike
Paraguaná Peninsula

Pretty much indefensible from an attack by sea.

32 posted on 05/16/2011 6:51:23 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obamanomics: Introducing the new "Fun Size" American Dollar.)
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To: Diogenesis

If Republicans don’t use pics such as this one uing the campaign, they are idiots. ESPECIALLY with the high gas prices.


33 posted on 05/16/2011 6:56:10 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: driftdiver

Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands, both U.S. territories with strategic military importance, are just 500 miles from Venezuela. With these missiles, Iran poses a threat to the approaches to the Panama Canal and to world trade.


34 posted on 05/16/2011 7:02:33 PM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: Bigtigermike

Well, I hope the US keeps it mouth shut and allows them to dump a pile of cash into it...then blow it to hell a few days before it’s operational.


35 posted on 05/16/2011 7:06:01 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
Iran is building a training course for future US Navy Seal teams eh?

That they are...

36 posted on 05/16/2011 7:23:10 PM PDT by GOPJ (Osama bin SEALed - http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html)
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To: driftdiver

Just a suggestion...put your head in the toilet and flush 10 times. After that..if you don’t have a clear thought then get in tough and I can have a Saturday Night Special ready to send to you to blow you stupid brains out.


37 posted on 05/16/2011 7:30:27 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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To: Bigtigermike

Iranian Missiles in Venzuela.....”the clandestine agreement between Venezuela and Iran would mean the Chavez government would fire rocket at Iran’s enemies should the Islamic Republic face military strikes.”

Well this does sound like a pre-lude to a Cuban Missle Crisis type event. Few people, apart from FR, realiz how close we came...just a finger away.

And what does Barry have to say about this?...nothing I suppose.


38 posted on 05/16/2011 7:39:26 PM PDT by caww
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To: Tzimisce

Think of it this way. Our new President in 2013 will have a purpose for all those spare nukes we have lying around that we thought we would never use.


39 posted on 05/16/2011 7:40:16 PM PDT by Wildbill22
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To: Bean Counter

“Premier Hussein” could very well be staging this by allowing it to go far enough so he can come in at the last moment as a hero...pulling a Ben-Laden type hero event.


40 posted on 05/16/2011 7:42:19 PM PDT by caww
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To: Shamrock-DW
Easy there, Sham. I think drift's got it figured out:

driftdiver wrote:
I found a story from Jerusalem Post which didn’t have good news. Old article but said Iran got some missiles from North Korea which would have the range to hit the US. Plus their ability to put small payloads in orbit means they could put a very small warhead (300 Kg) on Washington.

http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief005-26.htm

I checked Google earth. Its 1800 km from Venz to the southern tip of the US. The above article says those NK weapons have ranges of 2500 -3500KM.

•••

Yeah 3500 km goes all the way up to the very southern tip of Maine. over to the eastern great lakes and down to eastern texas.

41 posted on 05/16/2011 7:44:28 PM PDT by verum ago (Ok, you read this, you can take your bifocals back off)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sometimes its all the same.


42 posted on 05/16/2011 8:22:15 PM PDT by gfbtbb
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Seems like a GOP contender could make this an issue in the primaries. Obomba probably does want to sit on this info until he benefits the most from it, and do agree with you that Barry does have the mindset of a killer. I happen to think that he is a sociopath as well as a Marxist, but either way, he won’t lose sleep over slaughtering people to gain a few votes here or there.


43 posted on 05/16/2011 8:28:56 PM PDT by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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To: driftdiver
"He doesn’t currently have any missiles which can reach the US from Chavez land."

It is less than 2,000 kilometers from the Paraguana Peninsula to Miami. That is within the range of an Iranian Shahab-4, Shahab-5, or Shahab-6 missile.

44 posted on 05/16/2011 9:01:09 PM PDT by magellan
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To: Shamrock-DW

Put down the vodka before you hurt yourself.


45 posted on 05/17/2011 3:03:42 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: magellan

It’s 1800 km from the two closest points. Depending on the model some sources say their missiles will have adequate range. Some sources say they don’t.


46 posted on 05/17/2011 3:06:41 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: cll

US CentCOM is in Tampa, right?


47 posted on 05/17/2011 4:02:05 AM PDT by eCSMaster (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: eCSMaster

Yes Centcom HQ is in Tampa, about 15 miles from where I’m sitting.


48 posted on 05/17/2011 4:14:55 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
He doesn’t currently have any missiles which can reach the US from Chavez land.
49 posted on 05/17/2011 6:27:36 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope for survival.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

Yes, thats why I put the word in there.

Although some sources indicate he does have missiles with adequate range. The two closest points are about 1800 km using google earths ruler.


50 posted on 05/17/2011 6:30:22 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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