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NSA CS Man: My Tracking Algorithm Was 'Twisted' By the Government [gov't spying on you]
Slashdot ^ | 5/16/11 | Soulskill

Posted on 05/16/2011 5:53:27 PM PDT by Clint Williams

decora writes

"Crypto-mathematician Bill Binney worked in the Signals Intelligence Automation Research Center at the NSA. There, he worked on NSA's ThinThread program; a way to monitor the flood of internet data from outside the US while protecting the privacy of US citizens. In a new interview with Jane Mayer, he says his program 'got twisted. ... I should apologize to the American people. It's violated everyone's rights. It can be used to eavesdrop on the whole world. ... my people were brought in, and they told me, "Can you believe they're doing this? They're getting billing records on US citizens! They're putting pen registers on everyone in the country!"'"


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Technical
KEYWORDS: billbinney; binney; crookedleakers; domesticspying; dramaqueens; ellsberg; gorelickwall; janemayer; leakers; lefties; leftwingmelodrama; mayer; nsa; spies; thinthread; thomasdrake; trailblazer; vips; whiningloons

1 posted on 05/16/2011 5:53:32 PM PDT by Clint Williams
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To: Clint Williams

A housecleaning is coming,,, Freedom will be restored. they have forgotten the principles America was built on.


2 posted on 05/16/2011 6:01:40 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Clint Williams

There’s a pink elephant in the room. Every single one of us knows that there are certain things we may not say, and certain topics we must not joke about.

If we say those things, we get a visit from the state operatives, secret service, IRS, FBI, etc. America is slipping into a universal surveillance state. It must be stopped. When an American censors what he is about to say,,,, his next feeling should be anger.


3 posted on 05/16/2011 6:05:17 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Clint Williams

Timeline?


4 posted on 05/16/2011 6:17:20 PM PDT by steve8714 (Firing Federal Bureaucrats would have a 100,000x beneficial effect on the deficit, maybe more.)
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To: Clint Williams

These are lies. The American government wouldn’t do this.


5 posted on 05/16/2011 6:21:30 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: DesertRhino
There’s a pink elephant in the room. Every single one of us knows that there are certain things we may not say, and certain topics we must not joke about.

Err, like what? You can't call for armed revolution against the country or threaten elected officials. Is that a problem?

If we say those things, we get a visit from the state operatives, secret service, IRS, FBI, etc. America is slipping into a universal surveillance state. It must be stopped.

Again, give me an idea of what these things are you can't talk about.

I think Obama is a lying, socialist skunk and virtually the entire Democratic party leftist scum. I am not afraid to say so. No one is going to pay me a visit.

6 posted on 05/16/2011 6:40:45 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

“Err, like what? You can’t call for armed revolution against the country or threaten elected officials. Is that a problem?”

Sure you can. It just depends on what political/ethnic class you’re in.


7 posted on 05/16/2011 6:56:54 PM PDT by dljordan ("The Land of the Fee and the Home of the Slave")
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To: Clint Williams

Read the New Yorker article. Fascinating. Surveillance society indeed!


8 posted on 05/16/2011 7:16:57 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: DesertRhino
"A housecleaning is coming,,, Freedom will be restored. they have forgotten the principles America was built on. "

Nice dream...But without bloodshed, not a chance...

9 posted on 05/16/2011 7:44:49 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Clint Williams
“It was my duty to oppose it,” she told me. “That is why oversight existed, so that these things didn’t happen again. I’m not an attorney, but I thought that there was no way it was constitutional.” Roark recalls thinking that, if N.S.A. officials were breaking the law, she was “going to fry them.”

She soon learned that she was practically alone in her outrage. Very few congressional leaders had been briefed on the program, and some were apparently going along with it, even if they had reservations.

That's our representatives, folks.

10 posted on 05/17/2011 2:13:33 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Clint Williams

Here’s the URL for the full source article in the New Yorker Magazine

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/05/23/110523fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all


11 posted on 05/17/2011 6:30:50 AM PDT by phil_t
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To: TigersEye

Thank you for the heads’ up, Tiger.


12 posted on 05/18/2011 4:05:27 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: TigersEye; Quix; unspun; MestaMachine; caww; thouworm; combat_boots; SunkenCiv; blackie

Didn’t spend a lot of time on this yet, but Jane Meyer is not part of the VRWC, so this appears to be recognized at a bipartizan level. Info about Meyer coming up ...


13 posted on 05/18/2011 4:19:49 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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So who is Jane Mayer?

Six Questions for Jane Mayer, Author of The Dark Side—By Scott ...Jul 14, 2008 ... In a series of gripping articles, Jane Mayer has chronicled the Bush Administration’s grim and furtive dealings with torture and has exposed ...
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2008/07/hbc-90003234


14 posted on 05/18/2011 4:21:29 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: phil_t

Thank you for the link. Very helpful, FRiend.


15 posted on 05/18/2011 4:31:08 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

You don’t want your Tracking Algorithm to get ‘Twisted’!!

Be Ever Vigilant!!


16 posted on 05/18/2011 9:46:07 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: blackie; TigersEye

After reading the New Yorker report, I’m sensing a little partizan journalism here. My mind isn’t made up either way on this yet.


17 posted on 05/19/2011 9:08:51 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Aye, keep an open mind.


18 posted on 05/19/2011 11:18:17 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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