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Palm Beach County ethics rules would impact thousands by extending to dating, weddings
Sun-Sentinel ^ | May 16, 2011 | Adam Playford

Posted on 05/16/2011 10:06:09 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby

Boy meets girl. They like each other. They go out three times. He picks up the tab.

Perfectly innocent — and in some cases it could soon be perfectly illegal, if the girl works for Palm Beach County or one of its cities.

It's an accidental side-effect of a simple idea: Put a hard limit on the gifts businesses can give government workers and kill Palm Beach County's reputation for corruption.

The county's proposed new gift law would extend the rules to thousands of government workers — down to the people who pick up your trash and answer the telephones. They would no longer be allowed to take gifts worth more than $100 each year from anyone whose company does business with or lobbies their employer.

And so under the current proposal, if a man who works for Home Depot dates a woman who works for Palm Beach County, he can't spend more than $100 on her in the course of a year — unless she pays him back or spends money on him.

The code has exceptions for relatives, for people who are engaged and for couples living together. But none for dating.

"Right now, people will be going Dutch," Commission on Ethics Executive Director Alan Johnson conceded.

(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: corruption; dating; ethics; gifts; palmbeach; palmbeachcounty; rules

1 posted on 05/16/2011 10:06:19 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

If it actually reduces graft, I am all for it. Somehow, I doubt it will do anything but get some poor unsuspecting guy thrown in jail simply because he footed the tab for an expensive date. Will public employees have some kind of mark on their forehead so that at least guys know who to not ask out on a date? I suppose this could be good; more liberals with less dates. Fitting.


2 posted on 05/16/2011 10:15:46 PM PDT by ri4dc (Cut your cable, Break Wind for the TSA, Flush Twice in 2012, ROTUS Meet the Hermanator)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Welcome to Boca Raton!!! Meanwhile, they do nothing about the porn shops and pawn shops on every corner.


3 posted on 05/16/2011 10:29:31 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!!)
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To: Dengar01

There are porn/pawn shops in Boca?


4 posted on 05/16/2011 10:30:57 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

This is SO stupid!


5 posted on 05/16/2011 10:32:16 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NOT FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

It’s a stupid law thought up by stupid politicians who will continue to thrive in an atmosphere of stupid corruption.


6 posted on 05/16/2011 10:35:55 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Dengar01

You must live on 441 going toward Deerfield. Not any pawn shops or porn stores in INCORPORATED Boca Raton.


7 posted on 05/16/2011 10:52:42 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby; Deagle

This is a law I would oppose.


8 posted on 05/16/2011 10:57:38 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

Absolutely! And this one...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2720847/posts


9 posted on 05/16/2011 11:00:09 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
California will become the total state, with control over every aspect of human interaction and behavior... Shortly before total collapse can not be credibly denied.
10 posted on 05/17/2011 1:22:09 AM PDT by mmercier
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

There are porn/pawn shops in Boca?

“How much for that used vibrator,
the one with the 2-cycle motor?”??


11 posted on 05/17/2011 3:49:21 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

My experience has been that the more corrupt the politicians are, the more onerous the ethics rules they impose on government employees.

The corrupt politicians, of course, will never make an attempt to abide by anything even remotely ethical. They will continue to take bribes and kick-backs, without making even a token effort to conceal their corruption.

Same thing with spending. I have to make sure that every purchase made by our department is for valid business purposes, or I may end up personally paying for it—but the politicians who made those rules fall all over themselves thinking of new ways to spend our money.


12 posted on 05/17/2011 5:04:39 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: SatinDoll
This is SO stupid!

If it reduces graft and corruption, it's fine. You seem to be of the mind a man should pick up his date's expenses even when she's gainfully employed. The policy doesn't apply to engaged or married couples.

13 posted on 05/17/2011 5:07:15 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Nominate anyone, Obama will be president until 2017. Voters are stuck on stupid.)
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To: Clemenza; Dengar01
You must live on 441 going toward Deerfield. Not any pawn shops or porn stores in INCORPORATED Boca Raton.

I sure don't remember any two years ago before I moved.

I lived near the "little Brazil" section of Boca. Who needed porn shops?

14 posted on 05/17/2011 5:21:19 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ri4dc

The giving is mot illegal. The taking is what is prohibited.


15 posted on 05/17/2011 5:26:46 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: newzjunkey
“...You seem to be of the mind a man should pick up his date's expenses even when she's gainfully employed...”

I'm 60 years old. Dating isn't a part of my life, so your statement is asinine.

What part of intrusive government do YOU not understand?

NO MORE LAWS telling me what I can or can not do in my personal life outside of work. We have enough of that crap already.

16 posted on 05/17/2011 11:35:41 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NOT FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby; Caipirabob; Clemenza
There are porn/pawn shops in Boca?

I was in Boca in 2006 for the Super Bowl which was in Miami and there were quite a few pawn shops and porn shops.

I was very disappointed it was not the same Boca Raton that I visited yearly as a child.

There were many restaurants that I loved, gone.

The BAD BAD BAD area where I didn't feel safe was Boyton Beach. WTF happened there? It looked like an inner city!!!

Deerfield was bad but the WORST areas for the pawn shops, porn shops and DUI lawyers were in Miami Gardens by the Stadium. Literally every strip mall had it. Parts of Boca are still beautiful (I still see that the Early Bird Special folks are out at 4PM waiting in line at every restaurant) but the parts close to Boyton Beach changed.

The last time I was in Boca as a teen was in 1998 and we went to Boyton Beach to go to "Uncle Tom's BBQ" which is now unfortunately out of business and I don't remember that town being as shady as it is now.

17 posted on 05/17/2011 12:53:57 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!!)
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To: Dengar01; Caipirabob; TheDingoAteMyBaby

There are no parts of Boca near Boynton. You must be thinking of west Delray. I am in Boca three times a year (Lyons Road area, won’t get more specific). It remains an affluent, disproportionately Jewish area and I never see any porn or pawn shops, other than in the small lousy section on lower 441 near the Broward County line.


18 posted on 05/17/2011 11:06:24 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza; TheDingoAteMyBaby; Dengar01
other than in the small lousy section on lower 441 near the Broward County line.

That's "little Brasil"! And not the nice ones who dance samba, the mean ones who belong to gangs and run drugs. Right when you pass the church and fire department on the West side of 441, then watch yourself. It was getting bad when we left.

I'll just toss in that I loved that area. The "Casa De Pao" was my favorite store - fresh cheese bread and always a nice chat in Portuguese on my way to work. Too bad it was going to crap.

My friends, who I warned should get a home North of Palmetto have been telling me their neighborhood(s) there have changed a lot. More crime and vandalism, but worse, at night there are groups of guys in the streets now, past midnight, just hanging around. Bad scene. we saw it coming for years but didn't expect it to be that bad.

We were ready to move when we had the chance, and it was very good timing IMHO. The area we were in was beautiful, but has gone back to having crime and gang problems.

19 posted on 05/18/2011 5:10:39 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Clemenza; TheDingoAteMyBaby; Dengar01
Now that I think about it, there was a pawn shop and a porn shop in that very same mall. Sorry, I was wrong. I guess it didn't register when I remembered it the first time.

Sad, isn't it...

Cheers!

20 posted on 05/18/2011 5:12:03 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob
You are right though about one thing it was Delray Beach. Sorry it has been five years since I was down that way and I get all the adjacent towns confused.

The closer you get to Miami though, the filthier it gets!!!

During the 2006 Superbowl my friend and I went to South Beach to see what it was all about. It was nothing more than a glorified porno shoot.

And it was people who wanted desperately to be seen like they were important.

BTW are the Early Bird crazies still out in force in Boca at the buffets? I remember at the old Steak and Ale the old farts would steal the butters, the rolls, the cream, they'd even steal stuff off the buffet and put it in plastic baggies in their oversized purses!!! Now this was back in the 90s so I'm sure a lot of them passed on, but was curious if it is still occurring.

21 posted on 05/18/2011 9:23:15 AM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!!)
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To: tet68
-- "How much for that used vibrator, the one with the 2-cycle motor?" --

So THAT's what those Cox engines are for!!

22 posted on 05/18/2011 9:27:08 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Mears

bfl


23 posted on 05/18/2011 12:11:16 PM PDT by Mears
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