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Police Investigate Ind. Supreme Court Threats After Ruling
theindychannel.com ^ | May 17, 2011 | unknown

Posted on 05/17/2011 10:08:41 AM PDT by Abathar

INDIANAPOLIS -- Capitol Police in Indianapolis are investigating harassing phone calls and email messages to the Indiana Supreme Court following a recent contentious ruling regarding property rights.

Police won't say how many calls and messages have been received or whether they're addressed to a specific justice.

Court spokeswoman Kathryn Dolan told The Times of Munster the threats are mostly directed at police officers. Quantcast

The state's highest court ruled Thursday that Indiana residents have no right to resist police making an unlawful police entry into their homes.

In a 3-2 decision written by Justice Steven David, the court ruled that people confronted with an illegal police entry into their homes should allow entry and sue later for damages.

It said resisting entry increases the risk of escalating violence. The decision overturned centuries of common law.

"We believe … a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence," David said in the ruling.

(Excerpt) Read more at theindychannel.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: fourthamendment; indiana; rkba
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Okay Mitch, this is a deal breaker, right here and now.

If you want any support for your run at all you better the hell speak out on this ruling, and it better be soon.

1 posted on 05/17/2011 10:08:47 AM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar

I guess American citizens are ticked.


2 posted on 05/17/2011 10:10:40 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Abathar

I though Mitch was already funded by muzzies.


3 posted on 05/17/2011 10:11:30 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Abathar

Making threats is stupid. Remaining silent while taking action isn’t.


4 posted on 05/17/2011 10:11:40 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Abathar

The decision of that court is so egregiously unconstitutional it should fall upon appeal.

Daniels can join the pack of Seppuku committing GOP Presidential Wannabes if he doesn’t speak out against this travesty.

THIS is what you get when you have a police state.


5 posted on 05/17/2011 10:11:56 AM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: Abathar

I guess the police can just start bashing down doors of the people suspected of making the phone calls now.


6 posted on 05/17/2011 10:12:00 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Abathar

The decision of that court is so egregiously unconstitutional it should fall upon appeal.

Daniels can join the pack of Seppuku committing GOP Presidential Wannabes if he doesn’t speak out against this travesty.

THIS is what you get when you have a police state.


7 posted on 05/17/2011 10:12:00 AM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: Paladin2
"Back to Mitch Daniels. The American Arab Institute, co-founded by James Zogby, is presenting their annual award to Mitch Daniels.

Najeeb Halaby Award for Public Service: "

8 posted on 05/17/2011 10:14:46 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Lurker

All things in thier own time.

We must have patience.


9 posted on 05/17/2011 10:15:33 AM PDT by devistate one four (United states code 10.311 Militia Kimber CDP II .45 OORAH! TET68)
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Badges?
We ain’t got no badges.
We don’t need no badges.
I don’t have to show you any stinking badges!


10 posted on 05/17/2011 10:15:42 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a (small) monthly donor.)
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To: Abathar
Okay Mitch, this is a deal breaker, right here and now. If you want any support for your run at all you better the hell speak out on this ruling, and it better be soon.

You said it. Silence in the face of tyranny in his own state will remove any chance of getting my vote. The GOP is going to be taking out want ads for candidates at the rate the RINOs are self-immolating. Not that I'm upset about it...it clears the way for The Right Candidate, whoever that is.
11 posted on 05/17/2011 10:15:50 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Abathar

So, in other words if Officer Friendly “just wants to ask you a few questions”, you HAVE to let him in your house? It’s still allowed to refuse to answer them, right?


12 posted on 05/17/2011 10:15:54 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: ilovesarah2012
Government in it's many forms exists only with the consent of those governed.

That fact seems to have escaped the lofty minds of the jurice doctorates on the bench.

The ruling does the exact opposite of it's claim. It endangers cops. The notion that the cops asking to come in your home was ok to most because the process had to go thru judicial review prior to their request to enter and for exactly what they were there to search for. Now that that does not exist, there is no consent of those governed.

13 posted on 05/17/2011 10:16:13 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Abathar
"...a right to resist an unlawful police entry...is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence..."

What's the 'modern' Fourth Amendment? The one I have was written back in the late 1700s? Is there a newer one I haven't heard about?

14 posted on 05/17/2011 10:17:34 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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Warrant?
We ain’t got no warrant.
We don’t need no warrant.
I don’t have to show you any stinking warrant!


15 posted on 05/17/2011 10:17:48 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a (small) monthly donor.)
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To: Abathar

I do not care who you are. You break in my door, you are going to catch a face full of double barrel buckshot.


16 posted on 05/17/2011 10:18:27 AM PDT by Grunthor (RIDE THE CAIN TRAIN!)
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To: Abathar

Remember, once the police enter your home, it’s a very short step to confiscating your firearms, since they may constitute a “threat” to these unlawfully entered police.

Make note of it. That is the next step on the slippery slope.


17 posted on 05/17/2011 10:19:42 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Abathar

Heck, we rolled over on the TSA gropings, so why would the tyrants anticipate resistance to this the next step?

(Okay, we didn’t exactly roll over. We whipped out our...VIDEO CAMERAS!!! and “defended” our wives and children with them. /sarc)


18 posted on 05/17/2011 10:20:31 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Abathar

I’d be ashamed for Indiana and America in general if there were no threats.


19 posted on 05/17/2011 10:21:35 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Bad posters drive out good; don't post and drive!)
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To: Abathar

This ruling should be appealed immediately as it is in direct contradiction and opposition to the Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution.


20 posted on 05/17/2011 10:21:49 AM PDT by scorchedearther
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To: Paladin2

Daniels is Syrian.


21 posted on 05/17/2011 10:23:10 AM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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To: Carley
Apparently only half and both paternal GPs were Christian, which means they likely saw the writing on the wall and got out while the getting was good.

Still, getting support from Zogby is not the way to Tea Party conservatism.

22 posted on 05/17/2011 10:27:35 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: LearsFool

Yes, tyrants they are, and they should sleep like tyrants. Badly.

PS- Love your screen name. Ever notice that you never saw Cordelia and the fool together?


23 posted on 05/17/2011 10:27:58 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Bad posters drive out good; don't post and drive!)
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To: Lurker

I volunteer to serve on the jury of anyone tried for threats and/or actions.

Can you say, “jury nullification”?


24 posted on 05/17/2011 10:30:00 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Yup, the sooner folks come to the self evidence conclusion that the police are not their friends, the better off and the safer they’ll be.


25 posted on 05/17/2011 10:31:07 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: Abathar

“The decision overturned centuries of common law.”

Oh, only about 800 years worth. Let’s just round that up to a millenium’s worth.

It has been quite obvious for some time now that this was going to happen. Leftist criminals (aka lawyers, judges and cops) are rejoicing everywhere.

Remember the Battle of Athens, TN.
http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/athens.htm


26 posted on 05/17/2011 10:32:28 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Abathar

Milquetoast Mitch doesn’t exactly look like a fighter.

Since when does a state court decide that the Bill of Rights no longer applies to citizens in that state? This would never happen in Texas.


27 posted on 05/17/2011 10:33:54 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Frank_2001

Yep according to this ruling resistance is futile as the saying goes.

But it gets worse. How about a corrupt cop (and we know they are many). Say a corrupt cop eyes your daughter and decides he’s going to get some and comes knocking? You’re not allowed to resist, you have to let him in. I guess AFTER the girl is raped you get to take it to court.

Don’t think so. This ruling is actually going to CREATE violence not stop it.

Futhermore, this kind of ruling or action is exactly the same thing that kicked off the Revolution via the ‘Writs of Assistance’ vis a vis the Paxton Case (Writs of Assistance were illegal searches passed by Parliament in 1761, challenged by 63 Boston merchants led by a merchant named Paxton. John Adams would later call this case the “Birth of Independence”). Folks, history is repeating itself.

We either start rising up as one people fed up and will take no more, or our liberties are gone. It is too late for anything else, we have passed the rubicon. Who will lead us?


28 posted on 05/17/2011 10:34:02 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
PS- Love your screen name. Ever notice that you never saw Cordelia and the fool together?

Yours is better! And no, that had never occurred to me, but I guess you're right! Interesting.
29 posted on 05/17/2011 10:36:08 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Abathar

Can the justices be impeached, recalled, voted out in Indiana ?


30 posted on 05/17/2011 10:36:48 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: Paladin2

He actively seeks support and supports muslims:

Governor’s Second Annual Iftar (Ramadan 2006)

September 25, 2006:: Indianapolis, Indiana: The Muslim Alliance of Indiana (MAI) helped organize the second Annual Governor Iftar at the residence of Governor Mitch Daniels on Monday, September 25, 2006. Gov. Mitch Daniels reached out to more than 150 Muslims from across the state Monday night, welcoming them to his official residence for Iftar (a meal to end their daily fasting during Ramadan).

Shortly after sunset, the Muslim call to prayer rang out over the home’s back garden in the voice of Henry Hane, an immigrant from Senegal. The Muslims followed that by breaking their daily fasts with dishes from three continents. Then they performed their ritual prayers in two tents in the backyard of the residence at 4750 N. Meridian St.

Daniels told the crowd, “All God’s people are equal in his eyes. I am glad to welcome you to this home. You should think of this as your home.” The audience of Muslims from every corner of the state embraced the hospitality and presented Daniels gifts ranging from books on Muslim sex education to a wooden box ornately decorated with calligraphy from Syria, which is home to Daniels’ ancestors.

http://indianamuslims.org/index.php/events/governors-annual-iftar/98


31 posted on 05/17/2011 10:38:13 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Joe 6-pack
What's the 'modern' Fourth Amendment?

I guess "modern" means "voided". Sort of what they've done with the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 10th amendments.

32 posted on 05/17/2011 10:39:25 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: Frank_2001

Not for long. This is all part of the grand red plan...


33 posted on 05/17/2011 10:39:33 AM PDT by Shady (God will be merceful to believers in the love of Christ.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Well, he certainly does seem to have some strong smoke following him around. Thanks for the link/info.


34 posted on 05/17/2011 10:41:17 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Grunthor

buckshot? Is that the best you can do? How about something a little more permanent like 7.62x54r


35 posted on 05/17/2011 10:43:58 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: Lurker
Making threats is stupid. Remaining silent while taking action isn’t.

you are 100% correct. I've always thought that all it's going to take is one former Ranger, Force Recon, SEAL or soldier with training to get killed or family member killed for someone to start "inviting" the police to raid their houses.

I'm pretty sure that if some donut munching, ninja, wannabe special operator wearing his little balaclava killed a family member of mine...................

I'd take them to court and find a really good lawyer for years of litigation and to insure the rights of the police are covered and he doesn't lose his pension or his worker's comp disability scam.

Cause violence is NEVER the answer.

36 posted on 05/17/2011 10:45:01 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: Grunthor
   You break in my door, you are going to catch a face full of double barrel buckshot.

  Buckshot is actually covered by the 2nd Amendment, and no one has actually repealed the 4th Amendment, so you should be OK. At some point, Americans really do have to assert their rights. It's like a learning experience for the would-be tyrants.
37 posted on 05/17/2011 10:45:08 AM PDT by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: Abathar

Between this and the SCOTUS ruling, there is no doubt we live in a police state, governs by thugs n the right and the left.


38 posted on 05/17/2011 10:53:27 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“”Can the justices be impeached, recalled, voted out in Indiana ?””

I don’t know, but I guarantee there are a whole lot of us Hoosiers asking that exact question this week.


39 posted on 05/17/2011 10:58:12 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: vanilla swirl
I dunno,

18.53 x ~25 seems to leave a rather large hole.

40 posted on 05/17/2011 10:59:56 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: vanilla swirl

“How about something a little more permanent like 7.62x54r”

Not sure how good that would work in my shotgun.


41 posted on 05/17/2011 11:03:48 AM PDT by Grunthor (RIDE THE CAIN TRAIN!)
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To: Abathar
This is just a question: How do you know at the time that a police action is illegal? Who would know for sure? The cops? no. The homeowner? No.

If, after the fact it is determined to be a bad warrant, then sue the hell out of them. But when a warrant is actually being served how can anyone know with 100% certainty that it's bogus?

42 posted on 05/17/2011 11:07:19 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: 6SJ7

do not forget the 9th.


43 posted on 05/17/2011 11:16:37 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Abathar

Iowegians did it.


44 posted on 05/17/2011 11:17:43 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: Paladin2

through personal armor?


45 posted on 05/17/2011 11:29:53 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: Abathar

The Indiana Supreme Court only has five justices?
Sounds like it’s tailor made for wingnut decisions to me.


46 posted on 05/17/2011 11:40:50 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Abathar

I wonder if the Indiana state attorney general took a position on this case, any time before this ruling; in the form of a brief weighing in on the case or in the form of a public statement?


47 posted on 05/17/2011 12:00:19 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: vanilla swirl
buckshot? Is that the best you can do? How about something a little more permanent like 7.62x54r

At 'inside a modern habitation' range 00 buckshot is quite 'permanent', and very messy. Think of unloading a 20 round subgun magazine as a comparison, only you're doing it with only one shot...

the infowarrior

48 posted on 05/17/2011 12:22:37 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Abathar

Okay Mitch, this is a deal breaker, right here and now.
If you want any support for your run at all you better the hell speak out on this ruling, and it better be soon.”””

EXACTLY


49 posted on 05/17/2011 1:14:50 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Lurker

“When you have to shoot, shoot. Don’t talk...” - Tuco. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.


50 posted on 05/17/2011 1:28:00 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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