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To: SeekAndFind
It was apparent to me from the first minute Bennett signed on the air yesterday that Newt had offended him and that NOTHING Newt could say or do would undo the offense. Bennett's entire promo of the Newt call sounded to me like he was being a Prince of a Fellow to give Newt a chance to ‘try’ to defend his position, but it would do no good.

Bennett reminded me all morning of a father with a daughter that's dating someone he doesn't care for and regardless of what his daughter says about her date or how the kid comes across it pretty clear dad's not going to be happy.

And for Bill Bennett of ALL people to be talking someone down for having an ego!! He can't get through a single interview without reminding everyone several times that he was Drug Czar, Sec. of Education, in the White House and on and on.

I know I'm inviting a towering inferno to engulf me, but I must say I heard what Newt said and until everyone started giving him grief my response was that he had answered the question that he was asked and had done a great job of doing it. He was asked if the Republicans should ignore the opposition to a measure and pass it anyway. He responded it was wrong for the Left or the Right to disregard so much opposition and make changes that people didn't understand.

And I'm with him on the problem of people choosing to use their money for something other than insurance or medical care,then present themselves for state-of-the-art medical care when they need it and feel free to simply dump the considerable cost on those of use who end up paying the bills, either as insured citizens or tax payers. If expecting people to pay for the care they receive is what the public mandate is then I guess I'm for it.

Think what you want of Newt, and say what want about him, but he is quite correct when he says something as big and monumental as changing Medicare needs to be done with the approval of those who will be affected, AND somehow we've got to find a way to made certain those who get medical care pay for it and don't dump the cost on the rest of us.

It honestly sounded to me like Bill Bennett is backing Rick Santorum or Paul Ryan and his beef with Newt was that he felt Newt wasn't giving them the respect Bennett gives them.

Sorry if I disagree with most everyone on this, but that's just the way it strikes me. And, IMHO, far better to get this chaffing done early in process rather than in the shadow of an impending election.

If all Newt does is bring forth liberal and silly ideas one after the other he's served an important role in our primary process. If nothing else, consider him the dose of attenuated live virus you give a child to give them protection from the real thing later in life.

33 posted on 05/17/2011 12:42:54 PM PDT by jwparkerjr (I would rather lose with Sarah than win with a RINO!)
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To: jwparkerjr
Think what you want of Newt, and say what want about him, but he is quite correct when he says something as big and monumental as changing Medicare needs to be done with the approval of those who will be affected,

Medicare is an entitlement program. So now we're not permitted to change an entitlement program unless the people receiving that entitlement approve of any changes??

If expecting people to pay for the care they receive is what the public mandate is then I guess I'm for it.

Based on your defense of Medicare, you're clearly not in favor of people "paying for the care they receive." In fact, they're entitled to have other people pay for it, and we can't change that unless they "approve" of that change.

37 posted on 05/17/2011 3:03:28 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: jwparkerjr
He was asked if the Republicans should ignore the opposition to a measure and pass it anyway. He responded it was wrong for the Left or the Right to disregard so much opposition and make changes that people didn't understand.

Nobody objected to that part of his answer.

If expecting people to pay for the care they receive is what the public mandate is then I guess I'm for it.

That is not what the public mandate is, and that is not what Gingrich said he wants. I quote him directly in the post preceding this one. Read it, if you don't know what he said.

Say what you want about Newt ... but he is quite correct when he says something as big and monumental as changing Medicare needs to be done with the approval of those who will be affected,

In which case, his characterization of Ryan's plan as "right wing social engineering" must bother you quite a bit, because those most in favor of Ryan's plan (and they are overwhelmingly so) are seniors.

AND somehow we've got to find a way to made certain those who get medical care pay for it and don't dump the cost on the rest of us.

Good for you. That means you can't be very much in favor of Gingrich's plan, because the largest class of people, receiving by far and away the most health care they aren't paying for, are already in government programs called Medicare and Medicaid. And yerboi thinks that trying to make those programs fiscally responsible is, in his words, "radical." This despite the fact that only people under the age of 54 would actually be affected. So Gingrich thinks a proposal that would not affect anyone for TEN YEARS, during which time we can talk and debate our silly little fannies off, is "radical," "right wing social engineering."

If nothing else, consider him the dose of attenuated live virus you give a child to give them protection from the real thing later in life.

Congratulations! You have actually come as close to your mentor as anyone on any thread or program in making the stupidest comment of the week. The only people who're receiving "innoculations" from this inane boulderdash are Democrats. Between now and Judgement Day you will be hearing the attack ads like this: "The Democrats want to save Medicare. But Ryan's plan? Even Ultraconservative Newt Gingrich called it 'radical.'"

Thankfully, he's innoculated a lot of us from further considering him a serious candidate.

42 posted on 05/17/2011 4:11:47 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: jwparkerjr
Bennett reminded me all morning of a father with a daughter that's dating someone he doesn't care for and regardless of what his daughter says about her date or how the kid comes across it pretty clear dad's not going to be happy.

It honestly sounded to me like Bill Bennett is backing Rick Santorum or Paul Ryan and his beef with Newt was that he felt Newt wasn't giving them the respect Bennett gives them.

I'll commend you for figuring out early on that so much of the "conservative" media was in the tank for a specific candidate and, no different from the liberal media, trying to give the candidates they didn't like a hard time while pretending to be "objective." We didn't know at the time that Bennett was for Romney, but it certainly became clear when he went on to talk down Santorum and so many of his fellow RINO radio hosts like Hewitt and Medved became even more enthusiastic Romney spokespeople.

54 posted on 05/13/2012 5:54:04 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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