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To: jwparkerjr
He was asked if the Republicans should ignore the opposition to a measure and pass it anyway. He responded it was wrong for the Left or the Right to disregard so much opposition and make changes that people didn't understand.

Nobody objected to that part of his answer.

If expecting people to pay for the care they receive is what the public mandate is then I guess I'm for it.

That is not what the public mandate is, and that is not what Gingrich said he wants. I quote him directly in the post preceding this one. Read it, if you don't know what he said.

Say what you want about Newt ... but he is quite correct when he says something as big and monumental as changing Medicare needs to be done with the approval of those who will be affected,

In which case, his characterization of Ryan's plan as "right wing social engineering" must bother you quite a bit, because those most in favor of Ryan's plan (and they are overwhelmingly so) are seniors.

AND somehow we've got to find a way to made certain those who get medical care pay for it and don't dump the cost on the rest of us.

Good for you. That means you can't be very much in favor of Gingrich's plan, because the largest class of people, receiving by far and away the most health care they aren't paying for, are already in government programs called Medicare and Medicaid. And yerboi thinks that trying to make those programs fiscally responsible is, in his words, "radical." This despite the fact that only people under the age of 54 would actually be affected. So Gingrich thinks a proposal that would not affect anyone for TEN YEARS, during which time we can talk and debate our silly little fannies off, is "radical," "right wing social engineering."

If nothing else, consider him the dose of attenuated live virus you give a child to give them protection from the real thing later in life.

Congratulations! You have actually come as close to your mentor as anyone on any thread or program in making the stupidest comment of the week. The only people who're receiving "innoculations" from this inane boulderdash are Democrats. Between now and Judgement Day you will be hearing the attack ads like this: "The Democrats want to save Medicare. But Ryan's plan? Even Ultraconservative Newt Gingrich called it 'radical.'"

Thankfully, he's innoculated a lot of us from further considering him a serious candidate.

42 posted on 05/17/2011 4:11:47 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: FredZarguna

Granted I’m not as gifted in the intelligence field as you are, but I don’t have to resort to insults to make my points.

If you want a reasonable discussion of the situation, fine. If all you want to do is get on my case because I see something differently from you then you need to find someone else.


44 posted on 05/17/2011 4:21:38 PM PDT by jwparkerjr (I would rather lose with Sarah than win with a RINO!)
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