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Warrants Let Agents Enter Homes Without Owner Knowing
KOAT TV 7 Albuquerque (via Drudge) ^ | May 17, 2011 | KOAT

Posted on 05/17/2011 5:40:01 PM PDT by PhilosopherStone1000

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. -- A special type of government search warrant that allows authorities to search homes without informing the owner for months is becoming more common, Target 7 has learned.

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The number of delayed-notice search warrants spiked nationally from nearly 700 in fiscal year 2007 to close to 2,000 in 2009.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: albuquerque; cops; delayednotice; donutwatch; lawenforcement; newmexico; patriotact; police; rico; search; searchwarrant; secretwarrant; warrant
A couple of things:

One, there are way too many FReepers who believe that LEO's can do no wrong. But do you have any idea what kind of person becomes a cop in today's environment?

2. Look at the spike in 2009. Who became "pres_ent"? Who was Gov of NM?

My point: the pendulum swings. What we allow a GOP Pres to do unconstitutionally means the next time we have a Marxist loser Prez (which is going to happen) he can do it to0.

Flame away.

1 posted on 05/17/2011 5:40:06 PM PDT by PhilosopherStone1000
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

No flame here.

I thought about this when the Patriot Act was being debated. I was and still am against it.


2 posted on 05/17/2011 5:47:51 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

No flame here.

I thought about this when the Patriot Act was being debated. I was and still am against it.


3 posted on 05/17/2011 5:48:01 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

I just can not understand why more people don’t realize that the Constitution and especially the Bill of Rights was conceived for the main purpose of protecting the citizens from our government and especially and specifically from the law enforcement agencies.

We should never trust any LEO or the agency for which he works to protect our legal rights.

We must protect our rights by insisting that the Constitution be followed to the letter.

Neither drugs nor terrorism should make one bit of difference in the way the Constitution is interpreted, for it is not about drugs and terrorism. It is all about human nature and the natural desire of those in power to control those not in power.


4 posted on 05/17/2011 5:49:25 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

It’s time to repeal the Patriot Act. There’s nothing patriotic about wiping out constitutional rights.


5 posted on 05/17/2011 5:49:46 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
It’s time to repeal the Patriot Act.

It's way past time to start shooting back.

Bastards, the whole lot of them.

6 posted on 05/17/2011 5:51:14 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Its supposed to be used for terrorists. I’d guess about 5 of those 2000 were for something other than terrorism.


7 posted on 05/17/2011 5:52:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: unixfox

Yeah, I know what you mean. It’s almost like the American people are going to have to fight to regain their rights all over again. Damn these totalitarians and the cops they rode in on.


8 posted on 05/17/2011 5:53:13 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
Sorry, that should read - I’d guess about 5 of those 2000 were for something other than terrorism.
9 posted on 05/17/2011 5:54:00 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Agree 100%. No flames.

If it was okay under Bush, certainly, its ok under Obama.

Right?

Honestly, anyone who thought it was ok under Bush needs to have their head examined. Unconstitutional acts are never ok.


10 posted on 05/17/2011 5:54:54 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Nope.

PA II should be allowed to die.

LEO had and has all the tools they need to prosecute without turning a law into a device for destruction of US citizens life.


11 posted on 05/17/2011 5:56:59 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: PhilosopherStone1000; All

Where is the ACLU on this?


12 posted on 05/17/2011 5:57:31 PM PDT by KevinDavis (The Constitution is a suicide pact.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
This would be alright with me if I get reciprocal privileges to search the homes of government employees and law enforcement officials.

It's only fair.

13 posted on 05/17/2011 6:00:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islamophobia: The fear of offending Muslims because they are prone to violence.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

This isn’t new, and it’s not from the Patriot Act. It came out of RICO. I don’t think it’s unconstitutional. RICO laws have been pretty well tested by now. They still have to get a warrant, they just don’t have to tell the subject that they were there.


14 posted on 05/17/2011 6:01:07 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: KevinDavis

Plotting with Islamists.


15 posted on 05/17/2011 6:01:56 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

lol. Delayed notice warrants. That’s funny. Sorta like post-coital consent.


16 posted on 05/17/2011 6:05:07 PM PDT by Huck (The Antifederalists were right.)
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To: Ramius

Exactly... this act was depicted in the Sporanos... and the FBI entered Tony’s home without notifying Tony that they had planted mics and cameras. They did have a Warrant to do so.

LLS


17 posted on 05/17/2011 6:09:59 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

This doesn’t add up. They have enough to convince a judge to issue a warrant but just look around and take photos? Doesn’t pass the smell test. A search warrant is for the seizing of evidence.


18 posted on 05/17/2011 6:11:45 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Ramius
I don’t think it’s unconstitutional.

Really? Please read the following, and tell me where you see the constitutionality of unnotified, secret searches:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated

It's a recipe for fishing expeditions and planting of evidence to destroy political enemies. Might even be pretty lucrative to do so if they just want your house, civil asset forfeiture and all that.

It's just a matter of time.

19 posted on 05/17/2011 6:14:39 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: old curmudgeon

“....Constitution and especially the Bill of Rights was conceived for the main purpose of protecting the citizens from our government....

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Your thinking is sound, but you forgot that the very government is the keeper and maintainer of the Constitution — they can bend, twist, abolish and destroy it any time they want. Just look what is happening today.

You can only theorize and vote, hoping that your ballot will elect someone who will assure the Constitution’s survival, but it is not a certainty that it will. Especially not with the crowd in power and the spineless opposition.


20 posted on 05/17/2011 6:16:18 PM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: JimSEA
A search warrant is for the seizing of evidence.

A secret search warrant and no witnesses will mean planted evidence in very short order.

21 posted on 05/17/2011 6:17:12 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Hell .. It became the NAZI regime when it was ruled that “Rolling Roadblocks/Checkpoints” were legal.

BTW: Anyone else SICK of the “Click It Or Ticket” Radio campaign going on yet!?
Screw Em!


22 posted on 05/17/2011 6:24:35 PM PDT by freejohn
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To: JimSEA
A search warrant is for the seizing and planting of evidence

When was the last time you checked your crawl space?

23 posted on 05/17/2011 6:29:56 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: freejohn

I’m sick of most Public Service Announcements.


24 posted on 05/17/2011 6:43:05 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Something is rotten in Denmark as the old saying goes. If you aren’t guilty when they start, you will be by the time they finish.


25 posted on 05/17/2011 6:46:27 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: RegulatorCountry
Really? Please read the following, and tell me where you see the constitutionality of unnotified, secret searches:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated

It's a recipe for fishing expeditions and planting of evidence to destroy political enemies. Might even be pretty lucrative to do so if they just want your house, civil asset forfeiture and all that.

You left off the other part:

...shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

There's a warrant. I don't see how this RICO provision violates this amendment.

26 posted on 05/17/2011 7:24:58 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

As I said last night in a similar thread; if this becomes the law of the land, the numbers of LEOs who die in the line of duty is going to grow by leaps and bounds. All the home owner will say is: “Wow, that’s too bad...I thought it was an intruder...” Two can play this game, and it will be Law Enforcement who loses.

This is a horrible error in judgment by the Court. They will be responsible for the increase in LEO deaths. Very sad indeed.


27 posted on 05/17/2011 7:41:09 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: KevinDavis
The ACLU doesn't care unless it's a Christian group with a nativity scene or a cross somewhere.

They are so full of BS. They are probably overjoyed that 4th amendment is being destroyed.
28 posted on 05/17/2011 7:44:23 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
The constitution is stone cold dead.

America -- a great idea, didn't last.

29 posted on 05/17/2011 7:57:29 PM PDT by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last. The only reasonable response to Jihad is Crusade.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

I have two dogs. They may get in but they won’t get out. They hurt my dogs, I hurt them.


30 posted on 05/17/2011 7:58:16 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Here’s how you deal with this...

1. Overt video and audio recording on a UPS.
2. Covert video and audio recording on a UPS with offsite recording.
3. Alarm system with audible alarm on UPS.
4. 4 legged furry land sharks.
5. Good, very good locks.

Catch them at their own game. Expose them to the media and publish the video.


31 posted on 05/17/2011 8:05:32 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

The citizens of New Mexico need to be making a LOT of noise about this.

All branches of government and all levels of government need to be properly checked and balanced.


32 posted on 05/17/2011 8:30:50 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

33 posted on 05/18/2011 5:05:18 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is on Kindle)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000; LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; ...
Gotta whole lot of PINGs for the NM members. Patience...

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34 posted on 05/21/2011 10:23:49 PM PDT by CedarDave (I agree with Obama's immigration comments in El Paso: We do need moats filled with alligators)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.


35 posted on 05/21/2011 10:44:41 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Right after the Patriot Act became law my doctor was panicked, and asked me what I thought. I told him with Ashcroft as AG I wasn’t worried too much, but I hated to see the Democrats get a hold of it. The best policy is to not make laws tyrants will use against you, but we have, and he is.


36 posted on 05/22/2011 11:15:33 AM PDT by pallis
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
I thought about this when the Patriot Act was being debated. I was and still am against it.

Those are powers you don't want in the hands of a conservative administration and ones you really, really, really don't want in the hands of statist Dems.

37 posted on 05/25/2011 11:29:56 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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