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Can the FAA Be Trusted to Fix Air Traffic Control?
Investors.com ^
| May 17, 2011
| JOHN MERLINE
Posted on 05/17/2011 6:05:45 PM PDT by Kaslin
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posted on
05/17/2011 6:05:47 PM PDT
by
Kaslin
To: Kaslin
It’s better than all the rest but its decline can be traced to the time it was placed under the DOT.
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posted on
05/17/2011 6:16:53 PM PDT
by
saganite
(What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
To: Kaslin
Can the FAA Be Trusted to Fix Air Traffic Control? About as much as you want to trust the Department of Education to teach your kids sufficiently to compete in the world.
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posted on
05/17/2011 6:17:33 PM PDT
by
kbennkc
(For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
To: Kaslin
About as well as government agencies setup traffic lights.
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posted on
05/17/2011 6:24:13 PM PDT
by
GingisK
To: saganite
How did air traffic control decline when it was placed under the DOT?
To: Kaslin
Q: Can the FAA Be Trusted to Fix Air Traffic Control?
A: F=Federal
Therefore, NO.
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posted on
05/17/2011 6:33:53 PM PDT
by
elpinta
(John 17:3)
To: Kaslin
You can’t trust the government to “fix” anything.
To: Kaslin
Can the FAA Be Trusted to Fix Air Traffic Control?
Can the Obama-butt be trusted to provide an real birth certificate?
Is Nancy Pelosi really a female?
Did Jimmy Carter ever have a brain?
Did Bill Clinton “never have sex with that woman?
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posted on
05/17/2011 6:37:49 PM PDT
by
Da Coyote
To: Kaslin
The only thing I can trust the federal government to fix, is to fix it so that they are more in control.
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posted on
05/17/2011 6:42:23 PM PDT
by
C210N
(0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
To: Kaslin
What would you do instead? Have a Czar work with a blue ribbon congressional committee that reports directly to the WH?
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posted on
05/17/2011 6:42:56 PM PDT
by
ThomasThomas
(I am still looking for that box I am supposed to think out of.)
To: saganite
Its better than all the rest but its decline can be traced to the time it was placed under the DOT. Yep. The politicians wanted to spend the money the FAA controlled but couldn't until they put it under DOT.
Since then it has been all downhill and politics rules over safety and innovation.
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posted on
05/17/2011 6:44:18 PM PDT
by
OldMissileer
(Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
To: Kaslin
First ... I'm a retired air traffic controller, 4 and 3/4 years in the Air National Guard,
24 plus years in the USAF,
and 5 years in the FAA,
all actively controlling air traffic, and 99 percent of it in control tower operations.
Now ... that being said ...
"Can the FAA Be Trusted to Fix Air Traffic Control?"
The answer is a very loud
"NO!!!";
At least as long as the Union is involved.
The USAF has the best training policies, and management for ATC.
If it was up to me, it would be turned over to the Department of Defense (DoD).
Privatization of ATC might work if you got the government to take the insurance liability.
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posted on
05/17/2011 6:59:42 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: Yosemitest
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posted on
05/17/2011 7:03:09 PM PDT
by
Kaslin
(Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
To: Kaslin
No! The FAA is being run by non-pilots and non-aviation morons.
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posted on
05/17/2011 7:06:39 PM PDT
by
CodeToad
(Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
To: Yosemitest
This man speaks the truth. USAF controllers were the best.
(Admitted prejudice from a USAF instructor and test guy)
To: Yosemitest
This man speaks the truth. USAF controllers were the best.
(Admitted prejudice from a USAF instructor and test guy)
To: kbennkc
I wouldn’t even let them be school crossing guards. Fools would probably fall asleep after a hard weekend and all the school kids would get run over by a run away garbage truck.
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posted on
05/17/2011 7:16:59 PM PDT
by
RetiredTexasVet
(There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
To: Kaslin
I'll give you an example.
Working schedules: {there are three that come to mind} 1. Two day shifts; two swing shifts; two mid shifts; and two days off (48 hours max). This normally is done with four crews, and usually is augmented with a floater crew
that is mostly trainees and trainers, to expedite training.
2. Two day shifts; two swing shifts; 2 days off (48 hours); two mid shifts; and three days off (72 hours). This takes five crews and is best for the body to adjust to the rotation.
It is also augmented with a floater crew of trainees and trainers.
3. One swing shift (6 hours); a 12 hour break; one afternoon shift (6 hours; a 12 hour break; one morning shift (6 hours); a 12 hour break; one mid shift (6 hours); and a 60 hour break (the rest of that day, all day the next day, and 18 hours of the third day. This takes five crews, and this rotation is hardest on the body, but a favorite of the FAA due to the time off.
Also, this rotation can have the hours adjusted from 6 hours on some shifts to 8 hours {mostly on the morning and afternoon shifts} and 5 hours on the other shifts to allow some overlap.
Part Time Second Jobs: The FAA can authorize controllers to get a second job, through filling out a form and getting signed permission from management.
This is why most FAA controllers (the Union) like the rapid rotation of the 3rd example of the work schedule.
My first question of these "FAA Incidents/Accidents" would be Was the working controller involved, ... authorized to work a second job?
Did he truly have an undisturbed eight hours of rest before his Air Traffic Control Shift?
These second-job considerations, I believe, will be one of the contributing factors to most these problems.
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posted on
05/17/2011 7:32:09 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: Kaslin
I did it for 35 years, and no, they can't fix it.
PATCO screwed it up, then FAA caught a break and had a great opportunity to fix it, but....
Pressure to rebuild quickly, exacerbated by intense EEO mandates brought about another union that management essentially turned the day-to-day operation over to.
The genie is out of the bottle, the cadre of experienced personnel that is essential to ANY operation is gone now, replaced by scared kids who duck traffic and only stay on because of massive pay and ironclad union protection.
If you fly at all, thank your lucky stars for technology like TCAS...don't fly without it.
To: Da Coyote
What are your thoughts on work schedules, controllers working second jobs, and controller fatigue?
I knew one FAA controller that worked 40 plus hours in his second job, every week, stocking groceries.
You know he was tired when he got to work on his mids, and on his swings.
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posted on
05/17/2011 7:38:48 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
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