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Brutal: Tom Coburn quits the Gang of Six (tick tick tick)
Hot Air ^ | 5/17/11 | Allahpundit

Posted on 05/17/2011 6:07:21 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy

Remember what Alan Simpson said after Obama’s disastrous, demagogic, compromise-destroying attack on Paul Ryan a few weeks ago? He knew he’d just seen any chance of a deal between the Republican and Democratic leaderships go up in smoke. Quote:

“Just pray for the Gang of Six,” he said. “You guys your age, keep praying.”

What happens if the Gang of Six fails? Mr. Simpson was asked.

“Guys like you will be picking grit with the chickens when you are 65,” he replied.

Start boning up on grit-picking, my friends:

(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: coburn; debt; gangofsix; repudiatethedebt; tomcoburn
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Send lawyers, guns and money the sh*t has hit the fan....
1 posted on 05/17/2011 6:07:23 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy
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2 posted on 05/17/2011 6:09:55 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

My security doesn’t like your link. Blocked.


3 posted on 05/17/2011 6:10:12 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: STARWISE; maggief; penelopesire; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Liz; hatfieldmccoy

“We can’t bridge the gulf of where we need to go on mandatory spending,” Corburn said Tuesday afternoon. “I don’t see that there’s going to be any fruition in continuing them at this time.”

“We’re at an impasse,” Coburn said. “There’s no reason to sit and talk about the same things over and over and not get any movement.

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It was doomed from the start with Turbin-Durbin one of the 6.


4 posted on 05/17/2011 6:16:45 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

From the article: “I guess it’s going to take a fiscal collapse after all.”

Yup. You’re dealing with spending junkies here. And there is no way a junkie voluntarily gives up their fix. It will take an outside force like the bond markets to do that.

Default is just repudiation without the fanfare.


5 posted on 05/17/2011 6:17:24 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Conservatives are the battered wives of American politics.)
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To: saganite

Both Chambliss and Crapo need to be primaried.


6 posted on 05/17/2011 6:18:30 PM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

I guess we’re down to a “gang of five”.


7 posted on 05/17/2011 6:19:29 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: saganite

It’s not my link...I borrowed it from Hot Air....


8 posted on 05/17/2011 6:20:54 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy (The Obama beat down of America continues)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

Works for me.


9 posted on 05/17/2011 6:26:01 PM PDT by OKSooner (Obama confessed "his muslim faith" on the George Stephanopolous show on September 7th, 2008.)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

Sounds like good news to me.

Evidently the deal breaker was Coburns insistence that Social Security reform should be part of the package. But I also haven’t liked what I’ve heard about insistence on raising taxes.

And I don’t think any of them are really looking at some of the stuff that needs to be done—like eliminating the Department of Education, lock stock and barrel. And the EPA. And that’s just for starters.


10 posted on 05/17/2011 6:27:14 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: hatfieldmccoy

What was a good conservative like Tom Coburn doing with Dick Durbin anyway? Good Lord.

Trusting members of the Hussein Cult was a waste of time. They *ARE NOT TRUSTWORTHY*.

Look, evidence today of the difference between Republican leadership and Democrat....even the more liberal Republicans. I heard a bit of an interview of Chris Christie on Hannity...I don’t listen to SH on a regular basis, but happened to be in the car. Chris Christie today spoke about the primary endorsement possibilities, but he mentioned the current occupant of the Oval Office by his title and last name. (I try not to do so, because I think it dignifies the person while denigrating the position.)

You RARELY heard that from Demon-rats during the last administration...morons like Dingy Hairy Reed called Bush 43 a “loser”, etc. The men and women who speak out for the Republicans do NOT call Hussein names like that—and I s’pose that must appeal to some folks.


11 posted on 05/17/2011 6:28:46 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: hatfieldmccoy

No problem for me, either. Possibly it’s a software hitch. I removed that part of ZoneAlarm when it started warning me about all sorts of web sites being possibly dangerous. The last straw was when it tried to stop me from going to the home page at Microsoft!


12 posted on 05/17/2011 6:28:54 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: hatfieldmccoy

Washington DC doesn’t need any more ‘gangs’ or for that matter ‘czars’. What we do need are serious, America loving adults and they seem to be in very short supply.


13 posted on 05/17/2011 6:35:19 PM PDT by JPG (The real reason Huck quit? Fear of grizzly bears.)
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To: hatfieldmccoy
Exactly. Well I went to the doctor, I said I'm feelin’ kinda rough. .... The chit that used to work, won't work now.
14 posted on 05/17/2011 6:42:13 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: onyx

well....since they’re at an impasse they can go ahead with the birther issue.


15 posted on 05/17/2011 6:46:24 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: vette6387

You can bet that the idiot taxme shameless will get primaried.I will bet he wont seek re-election when the time comes.


16 posted on 05/17/2011 6:48:16 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Rashputin

Nothing less than a financial collapse will fix this mess. The Dems will never give up spending and raising taxes. We’ve run out of other peoples money.


17 posted on 05/17/2011 6:48:47 PM PDT by baiamonte
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To: RKBA Democrat
From the article: “I guess it’s going to take a fiscal collapse after all.”
Yup. You’re dealing with spending junkies here. And there is no way a junkie voluntarily gives up their fix. It will take an outside force like the bond markets to do that.
Default is just repudiation without the fanfare.


Unfortunately, you hit the nail on the head. Just like every junkie, every alcoholic has to hit absolute rock-bottom before they can start to get themselves back together, this country is going to have to hit fiscal rock-bottom, and sovereign default appears to be nigh.
18 posted on 05/17/2011 7:08:12 PM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Have to get Rock Bottom first.


19 posted on 05/17/2011 7:09:38 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

What was a good conservative like Tom Coburn doing with Dick Durbin anyway? Good Lord. “ ============

I would like to love Tom, but Tom was duped by Barack back when BO was senator. He thought they were “friends”. Obama threw Tom a bone on medical fraud savings, remember, and then promptly launched the PelosiObamaCare explosion on him.

To answer your question, it could be Tom was in “dupe me” mode to ever join with the gang of communists to pound sand. Er...I mean hammer out a deal. OR...it could be that by leaving the tight little communist leaning group means he is no longer dupable. :)


20 posted on 05/17/2011 7:10:28 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: Cicero

What candidate is even talking about eliminating agencies? Oh it is the Kooks. Paul and Johnson.


21 posted on 05/17/2011 7:11:02 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: vette6387

“Both Chambliss and Crapo need to be primaried.”

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!


22 posted on 05/17/2011 7:26:13 PM PDT by abcc2011 (Christian and conservative.)
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To: vette6387
Both Chambliss and Crapo need to be primaried.

Ditto, Amen, Amen, Amen!!!

23 posted on 05/17/2011 7:38:39 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Coburn is not a conservative.

Coburn voted for TARP & was a founding member of this "Gang of 6" mess.

Coburn is a McCain in training.
24 posted on 05/17/2011 7:47:25 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: baiamonte

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy.”

The Democrats have created this hellish nightmare and it is up to fiscally responsible Conservatives to remember the REPUBLIC screw the DEMOCRACY and shut down the corrupt power grabbing Democrats once and for all...


25 posted on 05/17/2011 7:58:14 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Only an ignorant American would vote for a Liberal.)
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To: Typical_Whitey
The Democrats have created this hellish nightmare and it is up to fiscally responsible Conservatives to remember the REPUBLIC screw the DEMOCRACY and shut down the corrupt power grabbing Democrats once and for all...

Best post of the thread, AMEN!!!!!

26 posted on 05/17/2011 8:26:33 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: gidget7
From an earlier thread:
If the U.S. Constitution was designed to prevent the government from having too much power, how did we end up with a government that controls just about everything in our lives?

Because of three groups of people and five tendencies all too familiar to the founding fathers:
The three groups:
1. Those who want to live off the labor of others.
2. Those who want to control the lives of others.
3. Those who are productive and want to be left the hell alone.
The five tendencies:
1. People in group 2 promise people in group 1 a cut of the loot if they enable them to spoliate people in group 3.
2. People in group 2 can rely upon people in group 1 to respond to envy and people in group 3 to be manipulated by pitching something as a public good or by characterizing their reluctance to fund the scheme as miserliness against the "needy" in group 1.
3. People in group 3 are so busy trying to be productive and take care of their own lives and dependents that they don't pay enough attention to the collusion between the moochers in 1 and despoilers in 2.
4. Small-time number 2 people, known as criminals, rely on robbery or fraud to separate people in group 3 from their products of labor and don't really give a rat's ass about people in 1.
5. Big-time number 2 people, known as statist politicians, rely on the force of law to extort from people in group 3 the products of their labor, while paying off people in group 1 for their support in attaining public office and staying there. They also don't give a rat's ass about people in group 1 except to have as many as necessary to keep themselves in office but not too many lest they not have enough people in group 3 to keep the whole thing running.
The founding fathers warned that lack of vigilance would enable the group 1 and group 2 parts of society to enslave and impoverish the group 3 people who actually produce everything. The answer is to take the government back from the abusers in group 2 and use it to cut them and those in group 1 off at the ankles.

27 posted on 05/17/2011 8:46:03 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Excellent!


28 posted on 05/17/2011 8:51:15 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: aruanan

The three groups:
1. Those who want to live off the labor of others.
2. Those who want to control the lives of others.
3. Those who are productive and want to be left the hell alone

RIGHT ON


29 posted on 05/17/2011 8:55:25 PM PDT by politicianslie (Obama thinks you're a fool)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

Can’t figure out that “cuts” won’t get the job done. Its time to amputate...a few Federal Agencies ...just for starters.


30 posted on 05/17/2011 8:58:21 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: aruanan

That’s an excellent summation of our situation. Thanks.


31 posted on 05/17/2011 9:03:19 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

Budget bump for later........


32 posted on 05/17/2011 9:04:02 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: politicianslie; Earthdweller; gidget7

Thanks, guys. The situation really is simple. It’s just those with their fingers holding the strings are motivated to keep talking up complexity. The founding fathers had a good solution: you just cut the frigging Gordian knot.


33 posted on 05/17/2011 9:14:54 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: onyx

Well don’t blame Saxby Chambliss. He never saw a Democrat sponsored bill he didn’t like.


34 posted on 05/17/2011 9:27:08 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Coburn is not a conservative.

Something tells me you haven't the first clue what a conservative is!

35 posted on 05/17/2011 9:27:51 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: loboinok
I know voting for TARP wasn't conservative.

I know forming this "Gang of 6" to screw the taxpayers isn't conservative.

I know traveling the country telling voters during 2008 saying "Obama is my friend & a good man" isn't conservative.

Coburn ran on "term limits" & now he has been in D.C. for close to 20 years.
36 posted on 05/17/2011 9:44:19 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: hatfieldmccoy

Tom is some kind of peacenik who wants to cross the aisle and sing kumbyah or whatever. He can’t recognize the enemy... obastard duped him, Tom thinks he is his friend. I used to think Tom was a smart Okie but not so much anymore. He has stayed too long.


37 posted on 05/17/2011 9:54:59 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

If you think that makes him less of a conservative, then we don’t stand a snow-ball’s chance in Hell in 12!

As for the 20 years and “term limits.” Coburn hasn’t reneged once on his term limit promises.

He’s in DC because we voted overwhelmingly to send him there, both, as congressman and senator.

If you know of someone more conservative... post the name.

While you’re at it name your senators, I’m curious.


38 posted on 05/17/2011 10:21:58 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: RitaOK
I would like to love Tom, but Tom was duped by Barack back when BO was senator. He thought they were “friends”.

Tom also stood up for his friend Nancy Pelosi, saying "she's a nice lady."

They think this is only a football game and the Democrats are their best buddies just on a different team while the Democrats are playing to win and for keeps.

39 posted on 05/17/2011 10:44:53 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Cicero

Yep, there are whole departments of the federal government that could go away tomorrow and citizens would notice no differences in their lives but more freedom and prosperity.


40 posted on 05/17/2011 11:00:29 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: aruanan

The answer is for the group 3 people to shrug.


41 posted on 05/17/2011 11:24:31 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Coburn said that anyone involved with an abortion should go to prison; hardly a moderate.


42 posted on 05/18/2011 3:04:01 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: aruanan

BTTT


43 posted on 05/18/2011 3:27:03 AM PDT by hattend (Obama is better than OJ... He found a killer while on the golf course.)
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To: kearnyirish2

A less than fiscally conservative social con.


44 posted on 05/18/2011 4:42:50 AM PDT by misterrob (You cannot call yourself a conservative if you support socialistic government programs!)
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To: aruanan
3. Those who are productive and want to be left the hell alone.

The good ol' days when men were men.

45 posted on 05/18/2011 4:48:37 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: hatfieldmccoy
Coburn allowing himself to be used like this, along with his "crossing the aisle" silliness, has caused me to lose a lot of respect for him.

Please GOP, grow some brains, play hardball, and learn how to express conservative principles in an articulate manner. Stop with the Kumbaya already, it's an embarrassment.

46 posted on 05/18/2011 4:55:04 AM PDT by truthkeeper ( Life is a pre-existing condition - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: aruanan
Because of three groups of people and five tendencies all too familiar to the founding fathers:

Say, this is pretty good... did you write this?

47 posted on 05/18/2011 4:55:32 AM PDT by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: onyx

The depraved selfishness of of politicians on full display.

What they should have been discussing together is how to educate and truly inform the citizens how dire our circumstances are- and then begin the task of actually cutting spending, drastically.


48 posted on 05/18/2011 5:08:40 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: John123
Say, this is pretty good... did you write this?

Yes. I tried to boil down everything I've read about politics and human nature.
49 posted on 05/18/2011 5:09:03 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: hatfieldmccoy

GREAT song...and songwriter - we just need to eliminate the “lawyers” part.


50 posted on 05/18/2011 5:13:03 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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