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The Gutsiest Call
The Washington Times ^ | May 17, 2011 | Editorial

Posted on 05/17/2011 7:42:07 PM PDT by Abakumov

On Monday, the nation honored Col. William M. Bower, the last surviving pilot of the April 18, 1942, Doolittle Raid, the risky surprise attack on the Japanese home islands that bolstered American morale in the early, tragic months of World War II. Col. Bower died Jan. 10 at age 93 and was laid to rest Monday at Arlington National Cemetery.

The Doolittle Raid was one of the gutsiest calls ever made by a president. Shortly after the Dec. 7, 1941 Pearl Harbor attack, Franklin D. Roosevelt issued a directive that the United States hit the Japanese homeland as soon as possible. Those were dark days. America was in an existential fight, not with ragtag bands of violent extremists but with the mightiest armed forces in history, then at the height of their power. After Pearl Harbor, the Japanese Empire enjoyed an unbroken string of victories. Bombing Japan was intended to deliver a blow to Imperial pride.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arlingtoncemetery; doolittleraid; greatestgeneration; ww2

1 posted on 05/17/2011 7:42:19 PM PDT by Abakumov
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To: Abakumov

RIP


2 posted on 05/17/2011 7:45:17 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

What is the deal with the cussing?


4 posted on 05/17/2011 7:54:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: Abakumov

The Dolittle Raid: Another event of which Michelle Obama is not proud.


5 posted on 05/17/2011 7:55:30 PM PDT by Dagnabitt
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To: Abakumov

Always wondered about the name.
...Roosevelt maintained the air of mystery by sharing none of the operational details of the attack, and quipped to reporters that the raid was launched “from our new secret base at Shangri-La.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Shangri-La_(CV-38)
Nomenclature
The naming of the ship was a radical departure from the general practice of the time, which was to name aircraft carriers after battles or previous US Navy ships. After the Doolittle Raid, launched from theHornet, President Roosevelt answered a reporter’s question by saying that the raid had been launched from “Shangri-La”, the fictional faraway land of theJames Hilton novel Lost Horizon.


6 posted on 05/17/2011 8:01:01 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

“Two months later we knocked the living shit out of them at the battle of Midway.”

Thanks to the help of some naval code breakers, a good deal of luck, and the tenacity of squadron commander Wade McClusky.


7 posted on 05/17/2011 8:03:58 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam, mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Dagnabitt
Most Americans do not remember that China did not give permission to use their territory for the raid, and that the Japanese army killed 250,000 Chinese in revenge for the raid.

It probably helped us win the war, but what a price the Chinese paid for being unable to defend themselves!

8 posted on 05/17/2011 8:07:00 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Pelham

We had an advantage in information and the Japanese had every other possible advantage. There’s a lessson in that.


9 posted on 05/17/2011 8:11:57 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: marktwain
It probably helped us win the war, but what a price the Chinese paid for being unable to defend themselves!

Sounds familiar. Clinton was offered Osama 8 to 10 times. It cost 3000 plus lives. How much guts does it require to not cancel an expensive mission in the most powerful nation in the world. How stupid does it look to gloat about not cancelling it? How stupid is the voter supposed to feel hearing Bill Maher was fired off his own show for mentioning Clinton launching a Tomahawk into an aspirin factory at 4 AM (local) and feels horrible that the sleeping janitor was killed?

10 posted on 05/17/2011 8:26:48 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: ansel12; HANG THE EXPENSE

Well ... see when whole countries or even the whole world is at war lots of people get killed. If the good guys win (that’s US - I will maintain as long as we stay true to our roots) then its OK to crow a little even maybe cussing a little is OK ... IMHO. ;-)


11 posted on 05/17/2011 8:54:51 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Abakumov
Of those who didn’t make it back, two men drowned and another was killed while bailing out. Eight were captured by the Japanese, of whom three were executed and one died of disease. The highest price was paid by China. An estimated 250,000 Chinese civilians were murdered in reprisal actions by Japanese forces for the assistance given to American flyers.

Never knew the Chinese were murdered in reprisal... Interesting post - thanks.

12 posted on 05/17/2011 9:04:12 PM PDT by GOPJ (Osama bin SEALed - http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I believe Camp David was originally called Shangri-La (after the fictitious place in the novel) by FDR, but I don’t know if he had started using that name before the raid. Eisenhower renamed it in honor of his grandson.


13 posted on 05/17/2011 9:26:07 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Pelham

Agreed.They had to know they were not coming back.We lost a lot of great men that day.I had the pleasure of meeting George Gay who was VT-8s only survivor when I was a kid so many years ago.Just a really great guy.He was surprised that a 12 year old kid knew so much about the Battle of Midway history.


14 posted on 05/17/2011 9:39:00 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: marktwain
Most Americans do not remember that China did not give permission to use their territory for the raid, and that the Japanese army killed 250,000 Chinese in revenge for the raid.

The Japanese needed little provocation when it came to brutality. Like their Nazi buddies, they were a superior race, and the commission of atrocities were commonplace.

As far as winning the war, although Pearl Harbor was devastated, they missed the aircraft carriers. They were out at sea.

15 posted on 05/17/2011 9:41:35 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: ansel12

Because it describes in the best way possible the payback for their underhanded sneak attack on a sunday morning thats the deal.


16 posted on 05/17/2011 9:42:54 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

You don’t need to cuss to describe something.


17 posted on 05/17/2011 9:51:02 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: GOPJ

They really didnt need a reason to murder the chinese civilians as they had already been committing the attrocities since 31.Check out a book called the Rape of Nanking and the biological testing against the chinese all through the war.What they got in august of 45 and all the fire raids paled in comparison to the butcher job the did on china.


18 posted on 05/17/2011 9:52:02 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Abakumov

Who got to drink the “tontine” (sp?) ?

IMNSHO the “Doolittle Raiders” had to be the ballsiest bunch of aviators ever. But that only reflects upon the character of their leader. Their passing marks the end of a bucaneering era in America......>PS


19 posted on 05/17/2011 9:52:09 PM PDT by PiperShade
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To: ansel12

Sorry, if you were offended.


20 posted on 05/17/2011 10:04:25 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
And they didn't hit the Pearl submarine yards nor the fuel dumps. Once we got our torpedo act together, the Japanese merchant marine found permanent anchor.
21 posted on 05/18/2011 1:29:32 AM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

“As far as winning the war, although Pearl Harbor was devastated, they missed the aircraft carriers. They were out at sea.”

They missed the repair bays as well as fuel storage as well. The Japs screwed up bigtime on Dec 7 1941.


22 posted on 05/18/2011 4:18:21 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Abakumov

With his ego, Obama probably thinks his* decision to hit Osama was the gutsiest call.

* Asterisk because some reports are that his indecisiveness led to CIA chief Leon Panetta to make the call.


23 posted on 05/18/2011 6:15:05 AM PDT by CedarDave (I agree with Obama's immigration comments in El Paso: We do need moats filled with alligators)
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