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New 2012 buzz: Rick Perry thinking of jumping in? (Ready for another Texas Governor as POTUS?)
Hotair ^ | 05/17/2011 | Allahpundit

Posted on 05/17/2011 8:13:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

After months of gassy media speculation about Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, and Chris Christie, we’re all near the point of dismissing deus-ex-machina rumors about candidates out of hand.

But this one … doesn’t seem so far-fetched.

A Texas pol who is close to Perry has been telling a few key strategists that the nation’s longest-serving governor sees a vacuum and is waiting to be summoned into the race. This source believes that could happen by late summer. Without fellow Southerners Haley Barbour or Mike Huckabee in the race — and with Newt Gingrich’s early troubles raising further doubts about the current lineup — there could be a glaring niche for Perry to fill.

According to another well-connected Republican, at least one Perry confidant has been very quietly making inquiries about the political terrain in the nation’s first voting state of Iowa. A third Perry associate, RCP has learned, has been heralding a small contingent of Iowans with the time-tested line that is often used by would-be candidates who are leaving their options open: “Keep your powder dry.”

Perry’s aides have long made it clear that the tough-talking Texan, who succeeded George W. Bush in Austin in 2000, would not seriously entertain the idea of mounting a White House run before the state’s legislative session finishes at the end of this month. That date is now less than two weeks away, and the 2012 presidential field remains fluid…

Perry’s presidential prospects may ultimately be contingent on the decision made by the only GOP White House hopeful who can boast a resume and home state that is large enough to mess with Texas: former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. Perry shares Palin’s dexterity with the simple, tough-talking language that tends to fire up the tea party faithful and is similarly adept at connecting on a human level that comes across as decidedly anti-politician, despite his more than a decade in the governor’s mansion.

His aides strenuously deny it, of course. Still, why not Perry? He has more than a decade of experience leading one of America’s biggest states, can boast economic growth at a moment when voters are desperate for relief from the malaise, would enjoy key regional support as a southerner, has budget-cutting cred to spare that’ll please tea partiers, and flashes enough personality to make him easily stand out at debates against other top-tier candidates like Romney, Pawlenty, and Daniels. If Michele Bachmann is confident enough of her chances in Iowa to run (“This is now beyond speculation. They are doing this.”), Perry might as well give it a go too. His concern, I guess, is that if Palin follows him into the race, she and Bachmann will siphon off enough votes on the right to make a lesser-known name like his unlikely to win any primaries. But to some extent that’s a self-fulfilling prophesy: The surest way for him and other grassroots favorites to discourage Palin from running is to jump in ASAP and start claiming votes (and political operatives in primary states) whom she’d need to boost her chances against the Romney/Pawlenty/Daniels centrists. That’s always been Bachmann’s strategy, I take it, that the surest way to avoid being stomped by Palin among tea partiers is to claim enough of her niche early that she decides to pass on the race. Perry would be even more formidable. But the longer he waits, the riskier it is.

Ed e-mails to say that he’s been expecting Perry to make a national move for a long time now and points to his unusual penchant, as a governor, for engaging on national issues. His candidacy does make a lot of sense. Tick tock.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; amnesty; eminentdomain; goodhair; kelo; openborders; potus; rickperry; rino; ttc
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1 posted on 05/17/2011 8:13:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Ugh, no, stop. Texas is fine. This well-combed asshat is not.


2 posted on 05/17/2011 8:17:09 PM PDT by TheZMan (Just secede and get it over with. No love lost on either side. Cya.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll bet he won’t. He has bought more land for his ranch and expanded his house. Everything screams he is happy where he is at. I think this are rumors by people seeing what they bait they can put out and what potential candidates bite.


3 posted on 05/17/2011 8:17:09 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: SeekAndFind

Speaking of governors, I’d like to see Ohio’s John Kasich get in. He’s very impressive, but he just got elected, and may be another guy who thinks it’s not his time. But SOMEONE good better get in, or it will be another four years of the socialist/blamer.


4 posted on 05/17/2011 8:20:14 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: SeekAndFind

No No No No No No No No No No!


5 posted on 05/17/2011 8:20:55 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: SeekAndFind

America isn’t ready to elect yet another Texas Governor, with eight years of George W just now fading in the rear view mirror.


6 posted on 05/17/2011 8:21:15 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am not sure about Perry but I can tell you this much - my selection process will have little to do with what State they are from.


7 posted on 05/17/2011 8:22:00 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: SeekAndFind

Hence my new tagline.


8 posted on 05/17/2011 8:24:10 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Rick Perry

born March 4, 1950 in Paint Creek, TX (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Joseph Ray Perry born 1925 in TX
Amelia June Holt born 1928/9 in TX

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Rick Perry is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.

9 posted on 05/17/2011 8:29:23 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Jedidah

RE: No No No No No No No No No No!

This of course begs the inevitable question -— WHY NOT?


10 posted on 05/17/2011 8:33:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind
Tea Party activist.

Sarah Palin endorsed him.

Mark Levin is pushing him on his show.

Texas is #1 business friendly state for 7 years in a row.

11 posted on 05/17/2011 8:36:13 PM PDT by cruise_missile
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To: TheZMan

Perry? Isn’t he amnesty guy?


12 posted on 05/17/2011 8:38:56 PM PDT by PalinCain2012
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To: SeekAndFind
“This of course begs the inevitable question -— WHY NOT?”

Exactly!

Milt, figNewton and Huntedman Jr. are all unacceptable nonstarters, period.

Cain: I don't like that he's throwing the race card out already, we don't need that in our Party. Nope.

Tiny Tim: Is for Ethanol subsidies and at best is shaky on “Globull Warming”. Issues 3 and 4 (behind 1. immigration and 2. health care on my list). Nope.

The Mitch: He's from the Bush tribe, no doubt. But, the name/word “Bush” isn't anywhere as toxic as it was even a year ago. It's not a positive, but I don't think it's the kiss of death. Seems to be doing/done good things in IN. I could vote for him.

Beautiful Michele: Running for VP.

Gov. Good Hair - TX: Some say he ran against sub-par competitors - a negative. However, rightly or wrongly he is governing over one of the most successful (and EV rich) states, and would pretty much guarantee a sweep of the South, Southwest, Mountain and lower Midwest areas - basically he'd repeat the Bush 2 EV map. Couple him with the Beautiful Michele and maybe MN comes into play, along with WI and IA. I could go with that.

Dark (Black) Horse TBD: A Mike Rounds or a Dave Heineman? Although Dave Heineman is running for the Senate, IIRC. Who else? From where?

At this point, in my unsolicited opinion, it's either (in no particular order) The Mitch, Gov. Good Hair or a Mike Rounds-type.

So, WHY NOT Perry? He's not perfect, but no one is.

13 posted on 05/17/2011 8:46:58 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Perry forced school girls as young as 10 to get the vaginal wart vaccine, Gardisil, after a successful lobbying campaign from Merck.

Not a conservative move.


14 posted on 05/17/2011 8:48:37 PM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (Show me the body!!!)
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To: plain talk

My selection process is based on who is running opposite BHO. That person, no matter who it is, will get my vote!


15 posted on 05/17/2011 8:49:25 PM PDT by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: GOPsterinMA
But, the name/word “Bush” isn't anywhere as toxic as it was even a year ago.

Which is why Jeb is still the real 900 pound gorilla in the wings.

A Florida or Texas governor makes much more sense than any of the other options, given the GOP's reverence for precedent and hierarchy.

16 posted on 05/17/2011 8:51:16 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: SeekAndFind

No.

Let’s keep Obama.

Obama is way better than some RINO!


17 posted on 05/17/2011 8:54:28 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Until Reagan rises from the dead: Thank God McCain didnt win. Obama's better than some RINO.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I've posted on here scores of times I can see the Jebster as the drafted GOP POTUS nominee if the convention is deadlocked.

As RINO as he is, he's better than most of the filler we currently have to choose from. Although personally, I do not want another “Bush” for POTUS. I'd rather Perry or Daniels (even though Daniels for sure is a Bush-ite).

OTOH, if it was Jebster v. Obama, no question I crawl over broken glass to vote against Obama; this country WILL NOT survive 4 more additional years of Obama.

18 posted on 05/17/2011 8:57:24 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: ASA Vet

But he is all for open borders, amnesty, and abuse of eminent domain. They are therefore twins in some critical areas.

I won’t vote for either of those two crap sandwiches as 2012 POTUS under any circumstance.


19 posted on 05/17/2011 8:59:45 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh FGS, NO!


20 posted on 05/17/2011 9:00:24 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: PalinCain2012

Yes.


21 posted on 05/17/2011 9:00:46 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

RE: Cain: I don’t like that he’s throwing the race card out already, we don’t need that in our Party. Nope.


What exactly did he say? Did he say, vote for me because I’m blacker than Obama or something to that effect?


22 posted on 05/17/2011 9:03:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: pepperdog

My selection process is to vote for an across the board conservative. There will be one on the ballot.

If that person is not a Republican, so be it.


23 posted on 05/17/2011 9:03:59 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t Texas running a deficit?

I love the state and visit often, but my impression is that Perry is at best a B player. If someone wants to correct me, go ahead. Say what you want about GWB, his governorship was more of a success, is my impression.


24 posted on 05/17/2011 9:04:39 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
Perry forced school girls as young as 10 to get the vaginal wart vaccine, Gardisil, after a successful lobbying campaign from Merck.

Not true--he tried to get a law passed for that, but either the legislature said no, or the very bad reaction of us Texans made him stop.

25 posted on 05/17/2011 9:05:06 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: SeekAndFind
He said he'll be under higher scrutiny because he's black.

Maybe. maybe not. But then any Republican is under higher scrutiny, by default. Skin color has nothing to do with the double standards that are in place against Republicans. Mentioning race is a cop out, IMO.

26 posted on 05/17/2011 9:10:38 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: basil

Because of the uproar, Perry eventually backed off...so it never happened.

But it was a monumental misjudgment.


27 posted on 05/17/2011 9:34:10 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: NoLibZone

Let’s vote in the run to the right, govern to the left, one world order, amnesty loving socialist because he’s better than the communist. Huzzah! /s

Sorry, lets can all the RINOs and RINO talk and go for the conservatives. We don’t have to settle for any RINOs. Conservatives do not even have to think about RINOs anymore. Let the party hacks and throw the spaghetti up against a wall to choose their candidate. Let us choose the conservative we want to represent us and leave the RINOs to themselves.


28 posted on 05/17/2011 9:43:11 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: SeekAndFind; GOPsterinMA

Please note comments from Texans, those of us who have lived with Rick Perry for years.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2721163/posts


29 posted on 05/17/2011 9:49:51 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Waryone

All this Rhino astroturf crap is tired and overused .

Give me clear important reasons why someone is not a great option rather than used this overused tired term.

Perry is hardly the worst option out there considering the
fatally flawed options like Romney or Daniels or Newt.


30 posted on 05/17/2011 9:50:02 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: SeekAndFind

No he did not throw out the race card. He said that the dems were going to go after him because he is black and he is absolutely correct. If conservatives vote for a conservative who happens to be black, they can’t say conservatives are racists. That scares them to death. They can’t have that happening. How will they run for office. How will Obama win without being able to blame racism? The dems are scared to death of any black conservative because it shows the world that they are liars.

Herman Cain was shining the light on the tactics of our enemy. Anyone who thinks that he was playing the “race card” either has no idea what the “race card” is or is ignorant of the schemes of the enemy.


31 posted on 05/17/2011 9:55:35 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: ncalburt

Reagan was a HUGE RINO by today’s Messianic movement.

A movement lead by the DNC.


32 posted on 05/17/2011 9:57:26 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Until Reagan rises from the dead: Thank God McCain didnt win. Obama's better than some RINO.)
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To: Jedidah
It looks like a mixed bag of comments. Would you support him for POTUS if it came down to it?

For sure, he's an opportunist. That tells me he's cagey and somewhat street smart, and the GOP needs people like that.

I'm just trying to look at who can actually win next year. I'm not seeing too many GOP’s than can. Perry, for all his faults could win, I suspect. We cannot have 4 more years of Obama; there will be no country left, period.

Unless I'm gravely mistaken, I think Perry would be a better POTUS than the trash we have now.

33 posted on 05/17/2011 9:59:44 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: NoLibZone
Very True and gasp Ronny was a Dem at one time.

It does appear the Dem trolls non stop hit and run posts here using that smear has become a popular hobby

34 posted on 05/17/2011 10:04:30 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Bugs Bunny would be a better POTUS than the trash we have now. So what’s your point? Lower our expectations? Settle for good looks and a slick tongue?

Rick Perry is, at best, ethically challenged. There are many of us who have seen, first-hand, what we don’t want our country to endure.

You’ve been told. But the American electorate is easily charmed, as we found out in ‘08.


35 posted on 05/17/2011 10:05:24 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah
I have no vested interest in Rick Perry as governor of TX, as I reside in MA. I haven't listened to more than 30 seconds of the guy speaking, so I've hardly been charmed. I'm looking at a practical answer to stopping Obama from winning again.

Who can win then? Because the majority of the choices we currently have are stiffs that are destined for defeat.

36 posted on 05/17/2011 10:12:30 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: ncalburt; Liz
You really don't want me to do that do you?

Well, I got this from another thread so here you go:



To: All

Aug. 28, 2007----In Mexico for trade talks, Perry blasts immigration policies Houston Chronicle, Mexico City Bureau | DUDLEY ALTHAUS FR Posted on 08/28/2007 by Dubya

MEXICO CITY — Leading a large delegation of Texas executives trying to drum up business in Mexico, Gov. Rick Perry on Tuesday criticized the U.S. Congress for failing to pass an immigration bill that would legalize millions of workers. "I don't think this is that difficult an issue if Congress would have the maturity to sit down and really discuss it and cut out all the mean rhetoric," Perry said during a break in the third day of meetings with Mexican officials and business executives. (Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...

============================================= August 24, 2007 ---- TX governor Perry rapped for paving way for construction of Trans-Texas Corridor; 
allows Mexican trucks to enter the US and traverse all the way to Canada.
One News Now | Chad Groening 
FR Posted on 08/25/2007 by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Texas Governor Rick Perry is being called to task by an author and investigative journalist for vetoing bills that would have blocked construction of the controversial Trans-Texas Corridor.

Dr. Jerome Corsi has been one of the leading voices warning the American public about the consequences of the Trans-Texas Corridor, which will be part of a superhighway -- purported to be four football fields wide -- that will allow Mexican trucks to enter the U.S. and traverse the core of the country all the way to Canada.

The best-selling author asserts that Governor Perry cleared the way for construction to begin in his state when he vetoed several bills passed by the Legislature that would have stalled the project.

"Governor Perry has been 100 percent gung-ho in building this road," says Corsi. "The Legislature voted a two-year moratorium, it voted a redefinition of eminent domain -- [and] Governor Perry vetoed them. [On] at least one of those measures, he waited until the Texas Legislature was out of session so it couldn't even override his veto."

Corsi says it is unfortunate that there has been political pressure to get the project started. "The Federal Highway Administration's lawyer wrote letters threatening the Texas Legislature to cut off federal highway funds if they got in the way of this Trans-Texas Corridor," he says.

Corsi believes the same pressure will be applied on other states, like Oklahoma, to go along with the project. He suggests that would mean a loss of more American jobs and could pose a threat to U.S. sovereignty.

============================================== April 17, 2011----513 People Crammed Into Two Mexican Trucks Bound for US

TUXTLA GUTIERREZ, Mexico - Police on Tuesday detained 513 undocumented migrants from Latin America and Asia who were crammed into two trucks bound for the United States, prosecutors in southeast Mexico said. The migrants, from Latin America, Japan, China, India and Nepal, "were traveling in inhuman conditions" in the southeastern state of Chiapas, near the Guatemalan border, the local attorney general's office said in a statement.

Police stopped the trucks, carrying 240 and 273 people, on the outskirts of state capital Tuxtla Gutierrez early Tuesday, after they accelerated through a vehicle scanner at a police checkpoint, the statement said. Officers chased down the vehicles shortly afterward, it added.

Police detained the Mexican drivers of the two trucks, and the migrants were provided with aid and food, the statement said. Mexican lawmakers last month unanimously approved a law to "strengthen the protection and security" of migrants amid widespread abuse. Rights groups have long criticized Mexico for failing to protect tens of thousands of migrants, mainly from Central America, trying to cross the vast country to illegally enter the US each year. The gruesome discovery of 72 murdered migrants from Central and South America in northeastern Tamaulipas state last August increased pressure on the government to act. Copyright 2011 AFP. All rights reserved. SOURCE http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/mexico-detains-513-people-crammed-into-two-us-bound-trucks-20110517-ncx

============================================ April 12, 2011----US Taxpayers Pay To Upgrade Mexican Trucks, US Trucks Not So Lucky
http://radioviceonline.com/ Steve McGough 
FR Posted by Biggirl

A story broke yesterday concerning the retrofit of more than 100 trucks from Mexico that do not meet United States environmental standards. Our federal government is paying to upgrade these trucks, yet when the state of California and the EPA set new rules for US-owned trucks, they fine companies who do not comply.

This post is not about the environment, it concerns how US trucking companies are treated by the federal and state government as compared to Mexican-owned rigs. From AzCentral.com. For air-quality regulators, the border creates a legal barrier.

State and federal agencies can’t force vehicles manufactured and bought in Mexico to comply with U.S. emissions rules, even though the trucks cross into this country.

So the Arizona Department of Environmental Quality tried a different approach, offering to pay Mexican truck owners to replace old mufflers with new catalytic converters that will reduce harmful diesel emissions by up to 30 percent. The project in effect circumvents the more lax Mexican rules about exhaust systems. (Excerpt) Read more at radioviceonline.com

21 posted on May 17, 2011 7:12:31 PM EDT by Liz [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies | Report Abuse]



I hope this is what you were looking for. I thank Liz for doing all this work. I'm sure you can see he is the definition of RINO. Texans know the Gov. Good Hair. RINO Kay Bailey Hutchinson blasted him from the right. Talk to the Texans. They can tell you in detail what a sneaky little RINO he is. But then, Perry would probably be considered a right wing extremist in the Northeast.

I do believe that these RINOs and party hacks attempting to astroturf us need to stop. I'm tired of them trotting out the RINO flavor of the minute. They seem desperate to find some liberal they can control or can use to fool us into giving them support. I hope all the RINOs and hacks get quiet and let us choose the conservative we want to represent us.

37 posted on 05/17/2011 10:24:34 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: NoLibZone

It’s amazing how the very ones, the Rockefeller RINOs who hated Reagan’s guts years ago are the same ones using him to cover their RINO behinds today.

Reagan was one of us. He was a conservative. He was an honorable man, who unlike the Romneys and the rest of the RINOs, said what he meant and meant what he said. He did not say things just to get elected and then do the exact opposite when the time came to act.

I’m also tired of RINOs mischaracterizing him and smearing him with he was a democrat, when they know full well that a democrat 60 years ago was more conservative than a RINO today. Or, they crow that he was pro-abortion, when it was his anti-abortion stand for the health of the mother that was first twisted by the democrats to mean anything they wanted it to. The democrats were the dishonorable ones, not Reagan.

There was more Reagan trashing than I could stand back in 2007 and 2008 with RINOs doing all they could to try to make themselves look more acceptable in comparison. Reagan is not here to defend himself and these petty liars show themselves to be the self-serving twits they really are.


38 posted on 05/17/2011 11:17:34 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: mnehring

I agree that he won’t. I heard him interviewed on WBAP on the Mark Davis show not long ago. He said he absolutely would not run for president.

Why should he, he is the top dog in a state that is doing very well. Give up that to go to DC and get caught up in that mess.

Time for the POLs to leave this alone.

A good candidate will show up we still have lots of time. The list of “good candidates” does not include NittWitt Mitt. If the pubbie blue bloods try to force that one, I am out.....


39 posted on 05/17/2011 11:36:17 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: ASA Vet

I live in Haskell County.

My family has lived here since the mid 1880’s.

I have never met Rick, but have met his parents. Their family has also been here a long time.

Rick’s wife was a nurse who cared for my grandfather. She is a fine lady.

He won’t run for President, unless Texas were to succeed and he might run for President of the 2nd Republic of Texas. hee hee hee


40 posted on 05/17/2011 11:40:31 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: SeekAndFind

governor Good Hair needs to stay put. He’s barely tolerable when he’s trying to pretend he’s conservative in Texas.


41 posted on 05/18/2011 12:36:40 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: Waryone
QUESTIONS PERRY SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO ANSWER

<><> Have you made deals with illegal aliens to exchange campaign cash and votes to use your office to get illegals US govt handouts----free education, EITC, welfare, food stamps, UI, SS, SSI, free healthcare, sub-prime mortgages, subsidized bank loans?

<><> Do you know exchanging gratuities for votes is a felony?

<><> Do you know which identity illegals use to register to vote for you?

=================================

July 21, 2006----BERGEN RECORD, NJ

Texans accused of selling counterfeit IDs (impoverished illegals "here for a better life" pay several thousand $$$ for fake ID's)

Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, NJ L/E authorities said.

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses---- for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution. The Drug Interdiction Task Force regularly runs checks.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. Authorities approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately.

The Texas brothers consented to a search. Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs. All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####

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Illegal ordered to repay $3M in Calif employment fraud
San Francisco Chronicle | June 26, 2010
FR Posted June 26, 2010 by artichokegrower

A former Marysville resident has been sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation. U.S. Attorney Benjamin B. Wagner says 31-year-old Manuel Mejia Ordonez was sentenced Friday to eight years and one month in prison for conspiracy to commit mail fraud and identity theft. (Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...

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Q. How does a citizen of Mexico make $3 million in unemployment claims? A. By establishing multiple identities. The fraudster, Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.

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Illegal Jose Madrigal, the Washington state rapist, had some 30 identities.

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People suckered in for the "here for a better life" scam should read this.


Reconquista shock troops at Phoenix Capital protest, May 29, 2010.

TEXAS DREAM ACT DEMONSTRATION----- 2009

42 posted on 05/18/2011 2:47:11 AM PDT by Liz
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To: SeekAndFind

Perry is a POLITICIAN. That is all. He is not a conservative, he is not a Republican. He is an opportunist with his ear to the ground.


43 posted on 05/18/2011 4:09:09 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: GOPsterinMA

I agree absolutely with everything you say, and I have no answers as yet. Seems many of us are looking for somebody to ride in on that mythical white horse.

There are no perfect candidates, and I know whoever I eventually back will not agree with me on everything. Moreover, no President can foresee what challenges his term will endure. Therefore, character, courage, and conservative values, and a respect for the Constitution are more important to me than talking points on issues.

Experience and administrative experience matter, too, with a track record of doing, not just saying. Therefore, I want to hear from those who have lived under Pawlenty and Daniels before I make my mind up about them. They both seem to be authentic and effective, but I’m watching from afar.

Our field is too thin.


44 posted on 05/18/2011 6:38:19 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: SeekAndFind

that would certainly explain why he has been pretending to be conservative since his re-election. Normally he’d have switched back to his normal liberal self by now.


45 posted on 05/18/2011 6:41:23 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: ASA Vet
Rick Perry is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.

Not according to the "Republic of Texas" wackjobs, who maintain that, due to some paperwork foul up, The Republic of Texas never actually joined the Union, and thus Texas is not one of the several states, but still an independent nation. That was not an issue with either President Bush, bot of whom were born in New England.

Get ready for Birtherism II.

46 posted on 05/18/2011 6:51:31 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Jedidah
“Our field is too thin.”

1,000% spot on! Dangerously thin. That's why I even mention Perry.

Pawlenty is for Ethanol subsidies and believe in global warming, two issues that directly effect American economics and security. Plus he didn't exactly cover himself in glory during the Coleman/Stuart Smalley Senate theft.

Daniels looks like he's done some good things in IN, so that's a big positive. The FReepers I know from IN generally seem to like him.

“Seems many of us are looking for somebody to ride in on that mythical white horse.”

Looking at the announced folks, at this point I'd take a 3 legged spotted cow, so long as it could walk straight.

Milt? Newt? Dear God, PLEASE, NO!!!

47 posted on 05/18/2011 6:54:01 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: Pilsner
Not according to the "Republic of Texas" wackjobs, who maintain that, due to some paperwork foul up, The Republic of Texas never actually joined the Union, and thus Texas is not one of the several states, but still an independent nation.

!!!!! Hey if that's true, I say, seal the borders on the north and south. Send all illegals to where ever they came from. Turn off all the gas lines off at the north border. Let Perry become the President of the Republic of Texas.

48 posted on 05/18/2011 7:00:49 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back.)
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To: Pilsner
Dwight D Eisenhower born 1890 in Denison, TX
Lyndon B Johnson born 1908 in Stonewall, TX

weren't Presidents?

49 posted on 05/18/2011 7:32:20 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Waryone; Liz

A little more evidence that you are correct.
___________________________________________________________
Secret WikiLeaks Document Confirms North American Union Plan

May 18, 2011

For Continental Release

CONTACT: Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC)
(866) 703-0864 Press@alipac.us

A secret document recently released by WikiLeaks reveals a high level US ambassador promoting a merger of the United States, Canada, and Mexico into one combined consumer and labor market, with a common currency and a mutual electronic security perimeter with less focus on physical borders.

The secret documents reveal a well developed plan that advocates secrecy, an incremental approach as not to alarm the public. The document clearly states, that the plan is to prevent US efforts to protect citizens from terrorism or disease from interfering with commerce and other financial interests. The documents also advocate that promotion of this plan focus on “individual firms, industries or travelers, and
especially consumers” instead of the nations as a whole.

This high level leak appears to validate earlier concerns by many groups of plans to create a new government, which would supersede the sovereignty of America, Canada, and Mexico in a way similar to the European Union. Critics of these merger plans call the plan the North American Union. Supporters of the plan call it the North American Community or North American Integration (NAI).

“It is conspiracy, but it is no theory,” said William Gheen of ALIPAC. “These traitors are trying to conceal their plans, but they are out in the open now. They are trying to force an economic union on America that is not ratified by the US Congress, not authorized by the US Constitution, and not approved of by the American public. This plan is being facilitated by the nonenforcement of our existing immigration and border laws.”

Americans were shocked to learn in 2005 and 2006 that millions of illegal aliens had been imported into America and were now marching in the streets demanding legalization, citizenship, voting rights, and taxpayer resources. Federal lawmakers loyal to the North American Integration plans have claimed “our immigration systems are broken” when in fact the immigration systems have been compromised by those advocating a merger of the populations of America, Mexico, and Canada.

Other examples of this economic union plan which has been pursued by Presidents Bush and Obama, can be found in the writings of Dr. Robert Pastor of American University, in releases by the Council on Foreign Relations such as “Building a North American Community,” and in announcements made by heads of state in all three countries supporting the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP).

“North American integration requires American disintegration. Americans would never voluntarily enter into this devilish arrangement that would disintegrate the United States beneath a larger super state; and a new government which would destroy the existing US Constitution and borders,” said William Gheen. “This is why these elite banking, business, and political influences are flooding America with rampant illegal immigration and hyper legal immigration. They are conquering the freedom-loving innocent citizens of America by bringing in outsiders who will replace us incrementally in our jobs and homes.”

While news of this recent WikiLeaks disclosure is circulating on the Internet, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC) is releasing the news and documents to the nation today via national press release.

American citizens are encouraged to take appropriate steps to organize in defense of the nation, and prepare to politically challenge and defeat those pursuing this unlawful, unconstitutional, and nation-destroying agenda.

William Gheen is releasing a more detailed article today titled “WikiLeaks Releases Secret Files: North American Integration” which will be distributed nationally along with this press release.

Article
American Disintegration for North American Integration Plan
http://www.alipac.us/article-6305-thread-1-0.html

Copies of the WikiLeaks documents can be seen at this link...

Leaked Secret WikiLeaks Documents about Integration
http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-1226350.html#1226350


50 posted on 05/18/2011 8:58:15 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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