Skip to comments.A GOP Plan To Disfranchise Democratic Voters in 2012?
Posted on 05/18/2011 12:49:16 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
In todays USA Today, former DNC interim chair Donna Brazile claims that Republicans are trying to block voters from the polls and reduce the voting rights of Democratic-leaning Americans. She asserts that Republicans are passing state ballot integrity laws such as voter photo-ID requirements to limit the participation of minority voters, the young, and the poor (purported Obama voters) heading into the 2012 elections. Brazile asks, Do we really want to see Floridas 2000 election controversy replayed?
Expect to see lots more of this leading to the presidential election. The 2000 presidential election produced voluminous claims of rampant voter intimidation, suppression, and harassment in Florida. The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights investigated these claims over a six-month period immediately after the election. The Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department also conducted a separate investigation.
Despite numerous allegations suggesting widespread voter intimidation, suppression, and harassment, the Commissions investigation produced just two ostensible instances of perceived voter intimidation. Were there voting problems in Florida? Sure, as in every election. But the Justice Department found no credible evidence that Floridians were intentionally denied the right to vote.
In contrast, a subsequent media analysis showed that at least 2000 votes were cast illegally in Florida in the 2000 presidential election. Since the margin of victory in Florida was 537 votes, the fraudulent votes were sufficient to affect the outcome of the election.
Thats not an isolated example. Evidence adduced at various commission hearings suggests numerous instances of actual voter fraud. The cases involve organizations and individuals who register ineligible voters, dead people, and fictional characters. In an infamous Ohio case during the 2004 presidential election campaign, a canvasser paid with crack cocaine registered Dick Tracy, Mary Poppins, and scores of other equally noteworthy characters.
Again, these arent isolated cases. A major 2001 voter registration drive in St. Louiss black community produced 3,800 new voter cards. When some of the names appeared suspicious, elections officials investigated all of the cards and determined that every single one was fraudulent. Dogs, the dead, and people who simply didnt want to register were among the new registrants.
The problem isnt only that canvassers are being paid to produce manifestly fraudulent voter registrations; its also that voter rolls throughout the country are being padded with hundreds of thousands of false and fraudulent names. For example, testimony by John Sample before the Senate Rules Committee showed that Alaska had 503,000 people on its voter rolls but only 437,000 people of voting age in the entire state. Before the last presidential election, 140,000 Florida voters were registered in multiple jurisdictions.
This isnt a minor concern. The 1998 Miami mayoral election actually had to be set aside due to rampant absentee-ballot forgeries.
Voter fraud isnt the imaginary phenomenon some claim it to be. Brazile bemoans the the expense of voter ID requirements ($10 million over four years in Indiana, according to her). Given the closeness of so many recent elections that couldve been decided by fraudulent ballots, is $10 million per state too much to spend on improving election integrity?
Peter Kirsanow is a member of the U.S.Commission on Civil Rights.
Pravda in high gear. How can people read this crapola each day.
Make it so. Pennsylvania has proposed legislation for voterID. It’s not a big deal, if you want to vote, prove you are who you say you are. Which part of that does Ms. Brazile not get?
Minority voters Donna Brazier?
Don’t you mean “undocumented migrants” that are better know as “ILLEGAL ALIENS?”
Yet, another STUPID woman!
(Do I really need a sarc tag?)
Without fraud, Dems will have trouble winning. QED.
Noooo. They’re simply trying to keep those busloads of illegals and non-citizen from stealing another election for a pack of smokes and a pint of Ripple.
“Make it so. Pennsylvania has proposed legislation for voterID. Its not a big deal, if you want to vote, prove you are who you say you are. Which part of that does Ms. Brazile not get?”
Our township election board discussed this yesterday which was primary election day in PA. We all thought it was a good idea even though we know everyone that votes! To be honest, many of our voters had their id out anyway even though they didn’t need it! If you don’t want to show your id, you probably are hiding something!
Not you, apparently. The article comes out FOR voter ID and dismisses the claims of voter disenfranchisement.
Isn’t this a silly charge?
Anybody who wants to stop it is RACIST.
About damn time!
Of course it’s silly. Read the article.
I would have shot him.
ACORN turned in fraudulent voter registration cards for the 2008 election in Las Vegas.
Nevada has about 2 1/2 million residents. I don’t know the estimated legal number of voters.
Over 400,000 fraudulent registration cards were caught by the elections people in Clark County.
No telling how many got thru.
It took over 2 years to ‘investigate’ this mess done by ACORN by the DEMOCRAT Sec of State & DEMOCRAT Attorney General of Nevada.
The woman in charge of this fraud finally got probation of about a year & 100 hours of ‘community service’.
WHAT A JOKE.
Las Vegas will be a hotbed for voter fraud again in 2012.
Don’t believe that ACORN is gone, either.
It has just changed it’s name in all states.
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Damn I hope so!!
Actually it’s a right for Democrats. I participated in Rush’s Operation Chaos by voting for Hillary in 2008. I’ve documented the fraud I witnessed many tims on FR. I had always thought the truth about voter fraud and itimidation was somewhere in between the extreme claims of both parties. It isn’t. The extent of the fraud is so far beyond anything the Republicans could ever dream up.
"In contrast, a subsequent media analysis showed that at least 2000 votes were cast illegally in Florida in the 2000 presidential election. Since the margin of victory in Florida was 537 votes, the fraudulent votes were sufficient to affect the outcome of the election."
They just can't get over the 2000 election. BUT, they never mention that many people got out of the lines in the Florida panhandle after the news media called the election for algore. That part of the state is in the central time zone. Polls were still open and the panhandle part is much more conservative than the eastern half.
The left has lost this argument. They have been repeating this crap for years and still over 80% of Americans support voter ID to vote.
I think the most important part of our Michigan GOP tsunami in the last election was the election of a secretary of state with a taste for fraudster blood.
Ruth Johnson made a name for herself as a county commissioner fighting ACORN fraud in 08 and fake tea party/democrat fraud in 2010.
Can you think of any way of documenting it James O'Keefe style? I sure would like to try.
former DNC interim chair Donna Brazile claims that Republicans are trying to block voters from the polls and reduce the voting rights
She can assert anything she wants.
Implicit in her assertion is that certain people are too stupid to perform certain simple tasks; like feeding themselves. But they are normal enough to vote. This makes no sense.
There are only two possibilities : either Brazile is a retard, or she is convinced the rest of us are.
Until she provides adult reasons or explanations as to how exactly presenting ID limits participation in anything, I will continue to assume she is a retard, regardless of her skin color.
Don't these people have to provide ID when buying alcohol? when buying cigarettes? Entering casinos? Cashing welfare checks? Applying for a loan? Attending a new school?
Only those who wish to steal an election would be against providing your ID to show you can vote. That way they can only vote once and if legally able to do so.
The liberals/dems only want to allow people to vote for them dozens of times and to them it doesn’t matter if they are legal or not. Well, it might if the vote is for a Conservative.
Dems can’t win elections unless they do so by theft.
I hope it disenfranchises tons of lazy and stupid people regardless of color ...
Of course, that raises the issue of how to be able to permit people to vote more than once, or vote without a pulse, or vote without going through the formality of becoming a citizen, or vote while underage. How about the multiple-residence dodge? Too bad.
Due to unprecedented interest in the 2012 presidential election, democrats are to vote (along with their dead and illegals) on Wednesday the 7th of November.
I signed an affidavit for the Clinton campaign that documented what I witnessed and experienced at my precinct caucus. I’ll try to dig it up and send it to you.
At the precinct caucus, I was elected as a Clinton delegate to the Senatorial District caucus. Most of the things ACORN and the Obama thugs did were done in such a way that the Clinton delegates didn’t realize what was happening until it was too late to do anything about it.
One small example: Clinton delegates in my precinct received no communication from the Texas Democratic Party (TDP) regarding where and when the Senatorial District Caucus (SDC) would be held. We emailed TDP officials and were told that due to the high turnout at local precints, they needed a larger venue for the SDC and that we’d be notified by the local precinct chariman when the location was determined. The local chair was an Obama delegate. We weren’t notified. (He later claimed he didn’t have our contact information, which was a lie.) Those of us who wanted to attend had to figure out where the SDC was being held (months later) on our own. Of the 9 Clinton delegates and 9 alternates, 4 of us showed up at the SDC. The TDP officials (wearing Obama t-shirts and buttons) wouldn’t give us contact information for the other Clinton delegates so we could call them to get them to come to the SDC. The TDP bylaws required them to release the information, but we didn’t know that. All of the 13 Obama delegates and 13 alternates showed up. Because we didn’t have enough people to fill our spots (to vote), the Obama alternates took our remaining spots & votes. It was 22 against 4. We had no say. Our votes were useless. We left the caucus early. So the Obama alternates got all 9 of our votes. When I confronted the local chair about the whole mess, he claimed that the Obama campaign, through ACORN had taught a training class about being a delegate to the SDC. I asked why the Clinton delegates were not invited. He claimed the Obama lawyers and ACORN trainers instructed them not to for legal reasons. I asked what legal reasons there could possibly be for excluding half of the precinct’s delegates from training if were just training. He said that the lawyers’ position was that since the training was given by Obama people, they were concerned about claims of voter intimidation should the Obama people teach or say anything that offended the Clinton delegates.
There was so much more that happened. Legal challenges to Clinton delegates were a big part of their game at the SDC. Essentially, the Democrats run their scams in the areas that they control. They must have the cooperation of local party officials, judges, and attorneys (for challenges.) They prepare way in advance and it runs like clockwork. Before the opposition knows what hit them, it’s too late to do anything about it. I don’t see any way for O’Keefe to document it unless he infiltrates the local house meetings that the Obama campaign will be holding very soon (if not now), which is where they’ll discuss and work out their plans.
Republicans just show up to vote. They don’t organize.
“In todays USA Today, former DNC interim chair Donna Brazile claims that Republicans are trying to block voters from the polls and reduce the voting rights of Democratic-leaning Americans. She asserts that Republicans are passing state ballot integrity laws such as voter photo-ID requirements to limit the participation of minority voters, the young, and the poor (purported Obama voters) heading into the 2012 elections. Brazile asks, Do we really want to see Floridas 2000 election controversy replayed?”
So Donna Brazile is saying Democrats need voter fraud to win. While she is also saying minority voters, the young and poor are incapable of bothering to register the vote and verifying their identity. What a racist she is.
Let's see --- My first vote was in 1980 - I was in college and still lived at home. I moved into an apartment, in another state, in 1982 when I got out of school. I moved back into an apartment when I got divorced in 1988. I bought my first house in 1992, my second, in yet again another state in 2003. In late 2009 I broke down and applied for food stamps, when after more than a year my husband and I could not get regular work and every penny we were making was going to keep the roof over our head and the power on and food in our daughter's belly and clothes on her ever growing back. It was damned hard for me to do that.
That first vote I cast was for Ronald Reagan and in all the ensuing years I have served on my local GOP committees, including serving as an officer more than once and delegate to the state GOP convention 8 years running. I've been a FReeper in good standing and have participated in my fair share of FReeps. I've worked at the grass roots level since before I ever even heard of the internet.........
And you're all for straight up voter disenfranchisement of me.
Donna Brazile is probably a fairly wealthy woman. Why doesn’t she offer to reimburse anyone for the cost of getting legitimate identification so they can show it at the polling places? I’ll bet plenty of poor disenfranchised people would be thankful.
She can put her money where her mouth is or STFU.
But we all know that she’s all about making it easy for the dems to perpetrate fraud to steal elections.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE................I’m begging you on bended knee —— May I, pretty please, post this on another forum I frequent?
Every time I see those silly men in black, I wish I could’ve looked down on them from my 6’6” as I walked by them to vote.
But thank God I live in FL.
The left is always whining, whenever these ballot integrity laws are proposed, that there isn’t any voter fraud.
OK, then there should be no difference in outcome when these laws are enforced.
Be my guest...we gotta get the word out!
Meanwhile, we're bickering about why this or that candidate (or potential candidate) isn't conservative enough on social issues or doesn't have the name recognition or [insert your own rant here] to attract support or do well in the debates or win the nomination.
Democrats have complained for years about the big bad Republican Machine, but the cold hard truth is that there is no such thing. Even FReepers are pretty divided about whom to support. We're all waiting for the perfect candidate and the truth is that no candidate is going to please all of us.
I haven't been at FR long enough to experience a purge, but I've heard the stories. My fear is that discussion about the primary candidates will cause a lot of discord among us when we should be united in our effort to defeat Obama.
My philosophy going into the 2012 primaries is "anyone but Obama." A.N.Y.O.N.E.
I despise Romney. Don't care much for Gingrich. Like Cain thus far. Ditto for Daniels. Like Palin & Bachman. Don't know enough about Pawlenty, Huntsman or Santorum to have an opinion. And have issues with Perry. At the end of the day ... I'd pull the lever for any of them over Obama.
But that's me and my coupon for a free (R) vote is good only for this election cycle. I know many FReepers will not vote for someone who isn't a full-on social conservative and have said they'll stay home or vote third party even if it means Obama gets re-elected.
To me, that is truly depressing because we could have this election in the bag on the issues alone.
Bless you -— and THANK YOU very much.
I’m gloatingly anticipating the exploding heads later this evening.
I’d love to do it now, but I have to wait until we get back from our daughter’s chorus concert —— but I am going to do it!!!!
Florida does require photo ID so it really is pretty stupid to focus on us. The big problem is the dual residencers voting in both states and of course absentee ballots.
Sure, as long as the results are the same. RATs losing is a good nthing!
Let me take this opportunity to thank Ms Brazile for running Al Gore’s 2000 failed campaign.
“Donna Brazile claims that Republicans are trying to block voters from the polls..”
Suck air from a thousand whoopie cushions, you racist over-inflated whale.
Yes I am! If we can keep 10 drones for voting for every College Republican I would be happy with that outcome. As far as your scenario, you being on foodstamps, damn right you should not be able to vote. I think if Washington and Jefferson were alive today they would agree with me. There is not even a debate that people on public assistance OVWERWHELMINGLY vote liberal, so sorry you were proud, poor and Conservative, we can't trust you in the polling place to do the right thing.
Sounds “racist” to me Mz. Brazile....saying certain legitimate American citizens have been deprived of a drivers license../s
“Election fraud is a black civil right.
Anybody who wants to stop it is RACIST.”
Any black who engages in election fraud is racist. Anyone who stops it is a patriot.
It’s time to use their volatile language against the leftists. And if they object, which they will, invite the leftist pigs into a dark parking lot for a cup of tea.
“More liekly a serious social upheaval is coming with the country going broke and we have some sort of military junta taking over at the civilian government cannot keep order, think RoboCop or Judge Dread type...”
You read too many comicbooks.