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Rick Perry Is Not Running for President. Mitch Daniels Is Running for President.
Red State ^ | Erick Erickson

Posted on 05/19/2011 6:36:56 AM PDT by SumProVita

"Conservatives would have to mount a massive, rapid, and high volume effort to get him in. I think such an outpouring of support and requests would draw Perry in. But, to do so, it’d have to be after Daniels and with continued displeasure with the field by conservatives.

One of the sticking points has always been whether the country was ready for another guy from Texas so soon after Bush. With Texas’s economy flourishing and the national economy still imploding, I think the country could get ready for another guy from Texas really quick.

Daniels is running. How conservatives react once Daniels makes it official could have an impact on Perry if conservatives target him for a draft effort."

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; amnesty; candidate; daniels2012; denial; election; eminentdomain; gardasil; hpv; illegals; kelo; moonbat; openborders; perry2012; rino
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1 posted on 05/19/2011 6:37:01 AM PDT by SumProVita
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To: SumProVita

As bad as Daniels is, Perry makes him look good.


2 posted on 05/19/2011 6:39:26 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: SumProVita

In 2012, another guy from Texas, or the same commie from Kenya?


3 posted on 05/19/2011 6:39:49 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: SumProVita

H.B. z ~ it’s still too soon after LBJ!


4 posted on 05/19/2011 6:40:17 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SumProVita

neither is conservative enough.


5 posted on 05/19/2011 6:40:59 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: SumProVita
We don't need no steenking ruling-class RINOs.
6 posted on 05/19/2011 6:41:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islamophobia: The fear of offending Muslims because they are prone to violence.)
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To: SumProVita

This redstate guy works for CNN. I pay him NO attention at all. Removed his website from my list.


7 posted on 05/19/2011 6:42:46 AM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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To: SumProVita

If feel another “do I have to hold my nose and vote?” election coming up.


8 posted on 05/19/2011 6:43:20 AM PDT by AU72
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To: SumProVita

He doesn’t have chance.


9 posted on 05/19/2011 6:43:20 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
We don't need no steenking ruling-class RINOs.

Amen, brother.

10 posted on 05/19/2011 6:44:06 AM PDT by American Quilter (DEFUND OBAMACARE.)
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To: Carley

You MUST be kidding.

With which substantive policy issues he has discussed do you disagree?


11 posted on 05/19/2011 6:45:47 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

Why is it that all these people who probably couldn’t even recognize or find Texas on a map think that Perry is a conservative?


12 posted on 05/19/2011 6:45:47 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: SumProVita

Perry for President....
President of the Free and Independent Republic of Texas!


13 posted on 05/19/2011 6:46:24 AM PDT by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: American Quilter

Daniels passed the first state bill to defund Planned Parenthood. He passed a tough immigration bill. He has Indiana’s budget in better shape than almost any other state. He’s an excellent Christian family man who doesn’t wear it on his sleeve to get more votes. This is no RINO, folks. Don’t fall for the empty mischaracterizations. (He does put his foot in his mouth about once or twice per year, though.)


14 posted on 05/19/2011 6:47:26 AM PDT by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: VRWCmember

Precisely because this talk of Perry is taking place, we ought to discuss the SUBSTANCE of why he should/should not be considered. For those of us who do not live in Texas....enlighten us. ;-)


15 posted on 05/19/2011 6:50:11 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Carley
This redstate guy works for CNN. I pay him NO attention at all. Removed his website from my list.

Agreed. Erickson is a blowhard, IMO.

He somehow thinks he speaks for the entire conservative movement. As opposed to just giving opinions on his blog (and CNN). He reminds me of the KOS of the right, always giving marching orders (i.e. call this number, tell them this, we must do this... blah blah blah).
16 posted on 05/19/2011 6:54:22 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: SumProVita
Why would conservatives draft Rick Perry?

The best things about Rick Perry are his political skills (considerable) and his hair.

Policy-wise he's not necessarily as strong as Pawlenty or Daniels. But he's very good at playing the populace.

17 posted on 05/19/2011 6:56:23 AM PDT by Crichton
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To: SumProVita

I think anybody who actually articulates that he wants people to come ask him to run is either arrogant or needy or both. I’m willing to be convinced that was somebody else misquoting him, but my first reaction is, “Yeah, we’ve already got a ‘savior’ in the WH, don’t need another one”.

Colonel, USAFR


18 posted on 05/19/2011 7:00:41 AM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: SumProVita

He has a history of making deals that benefit cronies, from awarding major no-bid contracts to companies owned by his political benefactors, to issuing executive orders to MANDATING the gardasil vaccination for all girls age 12 and up to land grabbing private property (a la Kelo) for the Trans-Texas Corridor NAFTA superhighway. He has only recently given lip-service to an about face on illegal immigration but until then was soft on the subject.

In short, he is John McCain with John Edwards’s hair.


19 posted on 05/19/2011 7:01:35 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Teacher317

>>>>Daniels passed the first state bill to defund Planned Parenthood. He passed a tough immigration bill. He has Indiana’s budget in better shape than almost any other state. He’s an excellent Christian family man who doesn’t wear it on his sleeve to get more votes. This is no RINO, folks. Don’t fall for the empty mischaracterizations. (He does put his foot in his mouth about once or twice per year, though.) >>>

Uh no, he puts his foot in his mouth once or twice per week - and it’s always the same thing: pandering to the moderates and liberals at the expense of the true conservative base. You know, like we “can’t argue with Democrats” and so on. (that video is on FR today in fact, on a thread being avoided by Daniels supporters for some strange reason).

I’ll credit him for walking the walk and that’s important. But in todays America, talking the talk is maybe just as important for a President. And Mitch just cannot talk the talk. Or won’t.


20 posted on 05/19/2011 7:03:50 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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To: Teacher317

I don’t want a RINO as the next GOP nominee, but I’m not convinced Daniels is one; I’m aware of his budgetary accomplishments and the bill he signed to end Medicaid funding for abortions. I’ve been confused by the vitriol expressed toward him on FR.


21 posted on 05/19/2011 7:04:05 AM PDT by American Quilter (DEFUND OBAMACARE.)
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To: Crichton

“Policy-wise he’s not necessarily as strong as Pawlenty or Daniels.”

Personally, at this point, I’m leaning Pawlenty. Like many conservative voters....I’m waiting to see what the final choices will be. I don’t know much detailed information on Perry’s policies. I was hoping this would be discussed.


22 posted on 05/19/2011 7:05:49 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: nhwingut

>>> He somehow thinks he speaks for the entire conservative movement.>>>

I’m sure that’s what CNN wants him to think he’s doing, and they no doubt use him as “THE spokesman for conservatives” — and since it’s on CNN, very few conservatives even know he’s doing it.


23 posted on 05/19/2011 7:06:14 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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To: VRWCmember

“...the gardasil vaccination for all girls age 12...”

This was a MANDATE for ALL girls??????


24 posted on 05/19/2011 7:08:38 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

Doesn’t Daniels have a big Muzzie contingent supporting him?


25 posted on 05/19/2011 7:09:47 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: SumProVita

I could vote for Perry... I refuse to vote for daniels... but Perry will probably not run.

LLS


26 posted on 05/19/2011 7:14:30 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: nhwingut

And today The Hill has some information. The Hill where Juan the crash dummy works.

We have to be ever careful not to respond to anything coming from anyone in our media. Sadly, that includes FNC.


27 posted on 05/19/2011 7:14:57 AM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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To: SumProVita

Feel free to follow whomever you choose.


28 posted on 05/19/2011 7:16:26 AM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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To: SumProVita
Romney-Daniels!

Today's emetic.

29 posted on 05/19/2011 7:21:16 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: SumProVita

I’m a Texan (7th generation!). I certainly hope Perry does NOT get the nomination.

Here are 3 examples of why:

Trans Texas corridor

Vaccinating 4th grade girls against venereal disease.

Decreeing that all US flags in the state be lowered to honor Ted Kennedy. (This was when I started flying my Gadsten flag.)

There are other examples, but these are the most glaring I can think of at present.

The man is a lifetime politician and certainly not a conservative. He gets some things right, but not enough for me to really support him in any election. I vote for him mainly because he’s not a registered democrat..........


30 posted on 05/19/2011 7:24:14 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: SumProVita

Yes, he mandated that in order for a girl age 12 or above to be allowed back in school, she had to have the gardasil vaccination. He bypassed the legislature in issuing this executive order mandate. There was sufficient outrage that the legislature overrode him on the issue, but he initially decided that he would simply dictate this regardless of the concerns of parents.


31 posted on 05/19/2011 7:24:50 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: SumProVita

They are offering me Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi. I want Orange Juice. ~Micheal Savage


32 posted on 05/19/2011 7:26:53 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: SumProVita

As much as people say they want a compromiser in the White House, they want no such thing.

As an example, the last two Presidential elections that the Democrats won was when the Republicans put forward a long time Senator.

Due to the very nature of legislating, there will always be issues of compromise that can be brought up when you have spent any significant amount of time there.

Dole and McCain were both very effective legislators and with that came the skill of compromising. Even Kerry got nailed on the “flip flop” issue on the Democrat side.

Obama didn’t have that long of a legislative record, so it was much harder to paint him as a compromiser as opposed to McCain.

This time, we cannot make the mistake of putting up a legislator to run against a sitting President. It must, absolutely must, be someone with experience as a Governor.

This sadly excludes some very exciting prospects such as Cain and Bachmann. I like both of them, Cain more by a bit, but neither of them can say “I made these tough decisions and let the buck stop with me for the result”.

This narrows the field considerably.


33 posted on 05/19/2011 7:27:49 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: SumProVita
Here comes the force feeding.

"You'll take your medicine and you'll like it, you hear!"


34 posted on 05/19/2011 7:32:36 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (GOP mantra: 'Repeal and replace.' Translation? 'We can do socialism better than the Democrats.')
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To: SumProVita
Here's my ongoing list of who's either in the pool or toe-dipping.

Michele Bachmann
Haley Barbour
John Bolton
Herman Cain
Mitch Daniels
Newt Gingrich
Rudy Giuliani
Mike Huckabee
Jon Huntsman, Jr.
Gary Johnson
Thad McCotter
Roy Moore
Sarah Palin
Ron Paul
Tim Pawlenty
Rick Perry
Buddy Roemer
Willard Romney
Rick Santorum
Donald Trump

*Candidates in red are in the "I can't get drunk enough to vote for them" category.

35 posted on 05/19/2011 7:40:37 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: SumProVita

Mitch won’t run till CHERI says Mitch “can” run.

Imagine how this looks to the Taliban.? Real strength, huh.


36 posted on 05/19/2011 7:42:03 AM PDT by Reagan69 (If it ain't broke, the government will fix it till it is.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
This time, we cannot make the mistake of putting up a legislator to run against a sitting President. It must, absolutely must, be someone with experience as a Governor.

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Agreed.

37 posted on 05/19/2011 7:42:17 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SumProVita

Here come the idiots with the frickin’ hair comments.
Sheesh! His hair is no more outstanding then any other.


38 posted on 05/19/2011 7:42:35 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: American Quilter

He’s not Sarah Palin or Duncan Hunter. Next question.


39 posted on 05/19/2011 7:50:50 AM PDT by redangus
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Whaaaat? Where do you people come up with stuff? I’m from Indiana and Mitch has no connection to any large Muzzie groups.


40 posted on 05/19/2011 7:53:25 AM PDT by redangus
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To: SumProVita

He’s too short.


41 posted on 05/19/2011 8:04:22 AM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: SumProVita

Yes. I’m speculating, but it seemed obvious to me that he probably was getting a kick back from merck. I can’t prove it of course, but the whole thing made no sense otherwise.


42 posted on 05/19/2011 8:08:59 AM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: SumProVita
Chris Matthews endorses Mitch Daniels, Daniels is even a better bet than Mitt Romney for the GOP.

newsbusters:
Experience tells us that the Republican presidential candidate the media prefer is the one they believe is most easily defeated.

On this weekend's "Chris Matthews Show," seven of the twelve regulars said Mitch Daniels "has the best shot to overcome his obvious flaw" (video follows with transcript and commentary):

CHRIS MATTHEWS: We put it to the Matthews Meter, twelve of our regulars including Howard, Katty and Norah, “Which candidate has the best shot to overcome his obvious flaw?” Well this is surprising I guess. Seven said Mitch Daniels. Three said John Huntsman, two, one each for Mitt Romney and one for Pawlenty

43 posted on 05/19/2011 8:16:08 AM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: SumProVita
What do you think?

Daniels isn't running either.

44 posted on 05/19/2011 8:16:08 AM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: SumProVita; patriot08

I don’t know anything about Rick Perry. I’m paying only scant attention to him unless and until he actually says he’s running. In the meantime, I just kinda sift through what others who seem to have some knowledge of him are posting, something beyond “He’s a RINO!”, “He has great hair!”, etc. Here’s a post I copied yesterday, from a Texas FReeper, patriot08, on another thread. I haven’t taken the time to verify or refute any of the following, but will do so if it starts to look as though Perry has serious intentions. Maybe you’ll find this helpful too.
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. Sarah Palin threw her endorsement to Rick Perry for governor.

. Pro-life, Pro-guns, pro-spending cuts, pro-business

. He’s an outside-the-Beltway candidate

. Fighting with Obama on many fronts
Google Perry/Obama and you will see he’s been fighting him and his government for the past two years.

. Since Perry has been Governor of Texas, Texas has added more than 850,000 jobs, more than all other states combined. Texas has added over 180,000 jobs since August of 2009.

. There is no such thing as ‘Perrycare’

. According to this web site Texas is #1 this year and last year for business friendly.
http://chiefexecutive.net/best-worst-states-for-business
Obama would not want not run against a governor that has the BEST business climate in the U.S. when everything else is in a depression.

• He refused to raise taxes when Texas faced a record $10 billion budget shortfall in 2003. Instead, he was the first Texas governor since World War II to sign a budget that lowered state spending (and has now done it twice). As governor, Perry has used his line item veto to cut over $3 billion in proposed spending.

• In 2005, Perry signed a historic $15.7 billion property tax cut for homeowners and businesses that also included new taxpayer protections against appraisal increases. In 2009, Gov. Perry secured a tax cut for approximately 40,000 small businesses in Texas and protected the Rainy Day Fund for future challenges.

• He led the battle to pass the country’s most sweeping lawsuit reforms, closing the door on junk lawsuits that had been making trial lawyers rich while driving countless doctors either out of the state or the profession all together. Since Texas voters approved these reforms, malpractice claims and premiums have fallen and access to healthcare is increasing across the state as doctors have applied in droves to practice in Texas.

. He is not a Ivy League grad
The Bush’s don’t like him
He was an Air Force captain who flew a C-130


45 posted on 05/19/2011 8:22:47 AM PDT by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: SumProVita
we ought to discuss the SUBSTANCE of why he should/should not be considered.

AMEN and AMEN.

Since our good country has not yet seen the wisdom in just letting me appoint the next POTUS, I will not be able to anoint President Palin, so we will have to go through the election again. I'm not certain Palin is running, so I am exploring the other candidates. It annoys me no end when someone is mentioned as a candidate and the substance-less posts which amount to little more than name-calling immediately pop up. I have no objection to someone concluding that a candidate is a RINO but give us some reasons for that conclusion.

I don't know much about Rick Perry but those for him have presented a much more substantive case than those who are against him.

I don't demand perfection in a candidate but I don't want someone who is seriously flawed either.

46 posted on 05/19/2011 9:22:18 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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To: CommerceComet
I don't know much about Rick Perry but those for him have presented a much more substantive case than those who are against him.

The only people cheerleading for him are from outside the state of Texas. The "substantive" reasons they posit for him tend to be statistics about how much better Texas is doing than most of the country, which speaks to the supremacy of the overall political environment here in Texas, but doesn't necessarily reflect on the merits of Perry as a political leader in general or as governor in specifics. Most of the FReepers FROM TEXAS who have commented on these threads have commented against him because we have seen some of the very UNconservative things he has tried to do while governor. We recognize that much of the economic strength here in Texas has resulted from conditions that would have prevailed due to our conservative legislature with or without Perry's help. We do NOT need another John McCain as our nominee, even if he does have better hair.

47 posted on 05/19/2011 9:43:11 AM PDT by VRWCmember (_!_)
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To: lonevoice
Maybe you’ll find this helpful too.

Those are all very impressive achievements. Thanks for posting them.

48 posted on 05/19/2011 9:52:23 AM PDT by American Quilter (DEFUND OBAMACARE.)
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To: redangus

Arab American Group Praises Mitch Daniels As ‘The Adult In The Room’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2707672/posts

While some GOP presidential contenders ratchet up their anti-Muslim rhetoric to toxic levels, Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniel (R) is set to accept a prestigious award next month from the Arab American Institute.

Maya Berry, executive director of AAI, told TPM that the award was incidental to his status as a possible presidential candidate and celebrates his broad record of public service and his Syrian heritage, which is not commonly known. Nonetheless, she noted that Daniels’ award comes at a time of increasingly mainstream anti-Arab and anti-Muslim sentiment in conservative circles.

“It’s a moment to honor our own and Mitch Daniels goes back to the founding of the institute as one of our earliest supporters,” she said. “We have a community that comes with some unfortunate political baggage in terms of bigots...it’s just nice when folks are proud of their ethnic background and don’t allow that kind of politics of exclusion to get in the way.”

Berry noted Daniel’s emphasis on fixing the economy and the group’s website praises his call for a “truce” on social issues, a quote that has invited heated attacks from religious conservatives.

“I think he’s been the adult in the room,” Berry said.

A spokesman for AAI, Omar Tewfik, contrasted Daniels’ relationship with the Arab-American community with other potential candidates in the 2012 primaries in a post on the group’s website.

“Gov. Daniels piques our interest not only because he is Arab American (his grandparents are from Syria), he is a politician who - even in today’s hyper-partisan political climate - has not digressed from his primary focus; fixing the economy,” he wrote. “He has insisted that other issues not become a distraction and has not pandered to the anti-Muslim, anti-Arab sentiments expressed by many other potential GOP presidential candidates.”

Asked about the GOP field, Tewfik told TPM that one area of particular importance to the group was the debate over Park 51 community center. AAI put out report cards grading public figures on their rhetoric on the issue and gave Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin their lowest rating, indicating “anti-Muslim sentiment in opposing the construction of the Muslim community center” and including “individuals who imply that those behind Park51 are pro-terrorist extremists.”

Past winners of the Najeeby Halaby award, named after the former airline executive and father of Jordan’s Queen Noor, include Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood and Congressman Nick Rahall. Daniels’ paternal grandparents immigrated from Syria.


49 posted on 05/19/2011 10:10:39 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: All

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Our likely choices suck thus far.

I am not a huge fan of Perry, but
compared to Romney, Newt, and the rest of JOKES running for President , Perry is a ROCK STAR!
You are NOT going to find a perfect candidate. They don’t exist.

Texas has been voted #1 business climate for the last seven years. .
Texas has been getting all of California’s jobs.

Perry must be doing something right.
We need a good business guy right now.
Perry has proved it.

Better looking
Better record
Rick Perry for President.

America will get it.

.


50 posted on 05/19/2011 10:55:42 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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