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Hedge Farm! The Doomsday Food Price Scenario Turning Hedgies into Survivalists
The New York Observer ^ | May 17, 2011 | Foster Kamer

Posted on 05/19/2011 7:51:55 AM PDT by OB1kNOb

On the rare occasion that New Yorkers talk about farming, it's usually something along the lines of what sort of organic kale to plant in the vanity garden at the second house in the Adirondacks. But on a recent afternoon, The Observer had a conversation of a different sort about agricultural pursuits with a hedge fund manager he'd met at one of the many dark-paneled private clubs in midtown a few weeks prior. "A friend of mine is actually the largest owner of agricultural land in Uruguay," said the hedge fund manager. "He's a year older than I am. We're somewhere [around] the 15th-largest farmers in America right now."

"We," as in, his hedge fund.

It may seem a little odd that in 2011 anyone's thinking of putting money into assets that would have seemed attractive in 1911, but there's something in the air-namely, fear. The hedge fund manager and others like him envision a doomsday scenario catalyzed by a weak dollar, higher-than-you-think inflation and an uncertain political climate here and abroad.

The pattern began to emerge sometime in 2008..........

(Excerpt) Read more at observer.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: doomsday; dsj; hedge; preppers; prepping; survivalism
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This is an interesting read and goes to show that it's not just the Rambo paranoid type survivalists that realize that big changes are coming down the pipeline that require them to prepare and secure adequate resources to ensure that they make it out on the other side of whatever it is that awaits us all in the future.

Whether you agree or disagree, it's a good topic to discuss and debate because it causes each of us to think in terms of being prepared for whatever life throws at us, and being prepared is, in and of itself, not a bad thing. In fact, it's the Boy Scouts motto, "Be Prepared", and we all need to take some time out from our ratrace daily schedules to ponder just what that means to us individually.

1 posted on 05/19/2011 7:52:00 AM PDT by OB1kNOb
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To: Kartographer

Ping - for your weblink of useful info.


2 posted on 05/19/2011 7:54:19 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (The stench of dependency is a sickening smell. Strive to become an asset, not a liability.)
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To: OB1kNOb

If real people with real money are taking the problem seriously, and looking to make money off it, then it is already mitigated. That’s how capitalism is supposed to work.


3 posted on 05/19/2011 7:54:59 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: OB1kNOb

So stop selling America’s food abroad.

And stop buying so much tech from China.

A win-win. We bring back American jobs, and keep our own food.


4 posted on 05/19/2011 7:56:07 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Hunter 2012)
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To: OB1kNOb

Time to invest is now! And the investments of the hour are food, guns, ammo, common household and cleaning supplies and seeds. A crash is coming it just remains to be seen if its a hard one or a controled one.

Those of you who maybe just starting to ‘prep’ might like to take a look at my Preparedness Manual which thanks to Freeper eaker is available for free download at:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf


5 posted on 05/19/2011 7:56:49 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
The elites have no intention of dying come the impending economic implosion.

Sure, their quality of life may decrease, but they will survive. Me and mine, I'm not so sure.

Idea: what does an elite taste like?

6 posted on 05/19/2011 8:04:01 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: OB1kNOb

I’m thinking about buying MREs or some other type of dried food for long-term storage. Any suggestions?

I have plenty of ammo, fuel, tools and water. Still plenishing my pharmaceutical supplies.


7 posted on 05/19/2011 8:04:01 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (Show me the body!!!)
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To: OB1kNOb

Interesting Jim Rogers interview from 2009:

India
Economic Times
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Opinion/Interviews/Fund-Managers-can-become-farmers-Jim-Rogers/articleshow/4610704.cms?curpg=1

Fund Managers can become farmers: Jim Rogers
4 Jun 2009, 0005 hrs IST, ET Bureau
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2716522/posts?page=7#7

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Jim Rogers ON COMMODITIES: The Bull Market Will Go Up, Consolidate, Go Up, Consolidate, Go Up And Consolidate...
TBI ^ | 5-7-2011 | Gus Lubin
http://www.businessinsider.com/jim-rogers-commodities-consolidates-2011-5

Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:37:11 AM by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2716522/posts

Jim Rogers didn’t buy or sell anything during last week’s commodity sell-off.

He says he isn’t good at market timing. What he does believe is that we’re in the middle of a commodity bull market where everything will go up for years.

Rogers tells the Economic Times:

“5% correction in gold is meaningless. These things correct 10-15-20-30% every year. Nothing unusual about that. That is the way the markets work. I do not see anything unusual. I expect there would be more correction during the course of the bull market. I hope that the bull market goes up, consolidates, goes up, consolidates, goes up and consolidates for years to come. That is my expectation for all commodities.

“I have not sold any commodity. I own all my commodities. We are in a flexible bull market. I hope I am smart enough in the entire 15 years to realize when the commodity bull market is finally coming to an end, I am probably smart enough to sell. This commodity bull market will probably end in a bubble. Most bull markets and most sectors, whether it is stocks, real estate, whatever it happens to me, lands in a bubble. We are far-far-far from a bubble so far.”


8 posted on 05/19/2011 8:04:05 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
So stop selling America’s food abroad.

That's easy. America has been a net-food-importing nation since about 2000.

9 posted on 05/19/2011 8:08:00 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Don’t buy MRE’s - very expensive for one meal. Buy mylar bags and food storage buckets with O2 absorbers and load up on staples such as beans, rice, sugar, flour, wheat, and salt. Buy canned foods such as tuna, chicken, and fruits. Load up on honey (last a long time) and ramen (sp?) noodles and spam if u want to do it on the cheap. Get a good water filter and store some water along with a small rocket stove and you will make you money go much much further than MRE’s.


10 posted on 05/19/2011 8:08:52 AM PDT by volunbeer
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
Any suggestions?

http://waltonfeed.com/

11 posted on 05/19/2011 8:13:40 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Me and OJ are going to find the real birth certificate.)
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To: OB1kNOb
More Corn


12 posted on 05/19/2011 8:13:52 AM PDT by blam
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To: OB1kNOb
Why Corn Is Suddenly The Hottest Commodity In The World
13 posted on 05/19/2011 8:16:00 AM PDT by blam
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To: iceskater

ping to self to read later


14 posted on 05/19/2011 8:17:37 AM PDT by iceskater (11/2/10 - the beginning of the beginning of restoration.)
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To: OB1kNOb

Productive agriculture land is about 50% of my diversified portfolio. I am moving to increase that portion by about 20% in the near future. There is no substitute and the supply is shrinking.


15 posted on 05/19/2011 8:17:37 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Carry_Okie

Actually, the US is the #1 exporter of ag products in the world. We are 5% of the population and responsible for 15% of the global supply of ag products.


16 posted on 05/19/2011 8:20:39 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: OB1kNOb
I got my hedge fund in my basement pantry and freezer. Not so much to survive a conflagration as to beat inflation. I buy everything when it is super sale and stock up. I also have a farm! In the form of a quarter acre garden. I enjoy it and save money too!

Mike

17 posted on 05/19/2011 8:25:17 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
I’m thinking about buying MREs or some other type of dried food for long-term storage. Any suggestions?

Other FReepers are better qualified than me to suggest the best prices and suppliers of MRE's. As for other dried foods one can go the route of buying freeze-dried or dehydrated food in #10 cans from a number of sources on the web. You might search Sam's Club and Costco's websites who also have lines of long storage food available.

Personally, as for my house, we have focused more on filling a well stocked pantry of various can and dry goods and spices we find on sale with a year or more future expiration date, which we currently use and rotate.

For longer term storage I am focusing on storing large quantities of basics, i.e. several different kinds of dry beans and peas, rice, pasta, powdered milk, potato buds, etc. which I am repackaging into mylar storage bags with oxygen depleters, and stored inside 5 gallon food grade plastic buckets with lids for extra protection against bugs and rodents. I find doing it myself saves me quite a bit from ordering bulk foods packaged this way.

I've also expanded the garden this year to grow additional quantities of shell beans, purple hull peas, squash, and okra. We will be canning and freezing the excess. In addition, we've added to our permacultures by planting more apple and plum trees, blueberry bushes, blackberries, and muscadines, and multiplying onions this Spring.

I hope this helps.

18 posted on 05/19/2011 8:28:44 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (The stench of dependency is a sickening smell. Strive to become an asset, not a liability.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Sounds like you are ahead of the game in the productive land arena. Kudos on your foresight.


19 posted on 05/19/2011 8:32:27 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (The stench of dependency is a sickening smell. Strive to become an asset, not a liability.)
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To: MichaelP
I got my hedge fund in my basement pantry and freezer. Not so much to survive a conflagration as to beat inflation. I buy everything when it is super sale and stock up. I also have a farm! In the form of a quarter acre garden. I enjoy it and save money too!

We must be using the same playbook! Every time my wife comes back with cases of various vegetables on sale, she tells me she's been hard at work "canning" all day, LOL!

20 posted on 05/19/2011 8:36:20 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (The stench of dependency is a sickening smell. Strive to become an asset, not a liability.)
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