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Another Too-Fat-To-Fly Controversy Hits Southwest Airlines
CBSNew York.com ^ | 05/18/11 | CBSNew York Staff

Posted on 05/19/2011 8:19:16 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Southwest Airlines has apologized to a mother and daughter who said they got rough treatment at the airport.

Kenlie Tiggeman, a 30-year-old political strategist and weight loss blogger in New York City, said it was humiliating, being told she was too fat to fly, reports CBS 2’s John Slattery.

“It was rude. It was in front of lots of people,” said Tiggeman, who’s originally from New Orleans.

Tiggeman said the incident happened in Dallas over Easter. She and her mother were told by a gate agent they each had to purchase two seats.

“And said that we were, in fact, too fat to fly, without an additional ticket,” Tiggeman said.


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KEYWORDS: airlines; fat; kenlietiggeman; southwest; toofattofly; transportation
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Now it's First Class, Coach and Fat @$$......
1 posted on 05/19/2011 8:19:18 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
"Kenlie Tiggeman, a 30-year-old political strategist and weight loss blogger"

A 268 pound female weight loss blogger? Bwahahahahahaha. I'm sure she's a certified fitness instructor too.

2 posted on 05/19/2011 8:22:32 AM PDT by circlecity (')
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Kenlie Tiggeman, a 30-year-old political strategist

For Chris Christie?

3 posted on 05/19/2011 8:24:18 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: circlecity

Considering she started at 393...


4 posted on 05/19/2011 8:24:46 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Of course Laz would hit it!)
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To: circlecity

I'd hit it.

I'd hit it.

I'd hit it.

5 posted on 05/19/2011 8:25:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
“As long as she fit in that seat, she should have been allowed to fly,” passenger Arnette Small said.

The question is whether she fit in the aisle.

6 posted on 05/19/2011 8:25:57 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: JRios1968

Yeah....she’s still to fat to fly in one seat. Just buy a seat for each butt cheek or put the fork down....your call.


7 posted on 05/19/2011 8:27:24 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: JRios1968

Just put them in cargo.


8 posted on 05/19/2011 8:28:27 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Everybody is a political strategist today!



9 posted on 05/19/2011 8:28:37 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Lazamataz

Hit it with what?


10 posted on 05/19/2011 8:28:53 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Lazamataz
"I'd hit it."

That doesn't count. You'd hit a lubricated oven mitt. We need a bit more objective opinion.

11 posted on 05/19/2011 8:30:26 AM PDT by circlecity (')
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To: humblegunner

Read this.


12 posted on 05/19/2011 8:31:01 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

NO FAT CHICKS!


13 posted on 05/19/2011 8:31:49 AM PDT by edcoil (Democrats doing to America what Reagan did to russia. Driving it to bankrupcy.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Support physical fitness ... Charge by the pound.


14 posted on 05/19/2011 8:31:53 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

I feel sorry for this person but people have to stop pretending outrage at this common-sense rule. I know she wouldn’t fit in the regular seats at Fenway Park in Boston, so she would be able to get a special seat with others who cannot navigate the baseball park easily.

Don’t journalists have anything better to focus on? Oh, wait, Michelle Obama has this vendetta against obesity... better look good, you journalist minions.


15 posted on 05/19/2011 8:32:05 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

It’s about width, not weight.

Airlines are selling space, and customers should have to buy however much they will use, like cellphone minutes.


16 posted on 05/19/2011 8:32:13 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Five pounds of flour.


17 posted on 05/19/2011 8:32:20 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: Mashood

18 posted on 05/19/2011 8:32:42 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

I understand the need for the airlines to get as many passengers on board as possible, but honestly ... the seats are small. I’m 6’ and 165lbs and I find the seats to be narrow and legroom to be minimal at best. I can’t imagine being even slightly overweight and trying to sit comfortably on a plane.


19 posted on 05/19/2011 8:33:16 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Don’t blame journalists. This story is a result of two women throwing a hissy fit and blaming the airline for their own problem.

It’s a legitimate issue.


20 posted on 05/19/2011 8:33:32 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

She says she can fit in the seat.

Um, K ...

coach seat is 17 INCHES wide per normal.

Was she coach or first class?

Sure she can wedge in, but how much does she overlap into my ‘space’?

The arm rests MUST be down for take off and landing, so the fatties can’t try that angle anymore.

FWIW, I fly pretty much EVERY week. I have seen fat folks wedge themselves in a seat, and the effect is that of squeezing a water balloon — they can’t go bodily wide, so their posterior gets ‘squooze’ UP. They end up sitting really high in the seat, ‘cuz the compression of their posterior lifts their torso up. They sit oddly high in the seat and must one or TWO seat belt extensions.

I don’t mean to pick on them or ridicule them — just point out that their form factor DOES NOT readily conform to the standard coach environment in a SINGLE seat.

I can sympathize because I am tall and broad-shouldered. My knees go up against the seat in front, and my shoulders don’t fit left to right in the allotted 17 or so inches. I sit on the aisle in coach, or first class. (Yes, I am one of THOSE multi-million milers, spoiled, pampered flying snobs ... but I help travel noob on a weekly basis)

Travel tip for the wide — an upgrade to domestic business class on leisure airlines like AirTran costs LESS than buying two seats, is more comfy, better served, and less embarrassing.


21 posted on 05/19/2011 8:34:48 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
The problem is not the woman it is the air lines..They squeeze the seats so close together that you have to be a tooth pick to be confertable..I can't take a trip on any airline because of my back problems..We use to go by air a lot with my husbands business and also being in the military going all over..I know the difference in how confertable the airlines are from then and now..
22 posted on 05/19/2011 8:34:56 AM PDT by PLD
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

23 posted on 05/19/2011 8:35:45 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

It was rude and wrong. Since that airline only flies 737s with 3-3 seating configuration, they should have been allowed to split 3 seats between the two of them instead of being forced to buy 2 seats each.


24 posted on 05/19/2011 8:36:30 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: OldNavyVet

Muscle weights more than fat.

It’s not about weight, but width. A tall person can weigh 250 but be slim and fit in the seat. (Personal knowledge here!) He’ll have to deal with legroom issues, but that’s not something he can control, unlike obesity.

I’d pay for extra legroom.


25 posted on 05/19/2011 8:36:30 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

See... its not too bad.


26 posted on 05/19/2011 8:36:43 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: al_c

Have you ever had the misfortune of sitting next to a tubber? You have to stick your arms straight down at your sides because they need both arm rests. The seats are small to begin with for anyone except kids and midgets.


27 posted on 05/19/2011 8:37:45 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: circlecity

LOL literally


28 posted on 05/19/2011 8:38:19 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: LostInBayport

Do the math....That armrest is gonna disappear!


29 posted on 05/19/2011 8:40:35 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: al_c
I am 5ft 6 inches and it is horrible for me so I can imagine how you feel..And when you have someone in front of you putting their seat back as far as it will go it gets worse..
30 posted on 05/19/2011 8:40:35 AM PDT by PLD
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

She’s too fat to fly even with 2 seats!!!

Put on a burka and go hide from public!


31 posted on 05/19/2011 8:43:51 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: edcoil

save a whale, harpoon a fat chick!


32 posted on 05/19/2011 8:45:54 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

I hate sitting next to obese, super-sized strangers on a flight.

Even if they can “fit” (read: squeeze) into the seat, the spillover means HOURS of constant, miserable contact with their blubbery body and excess body heat. What about my right to protection from the uncomfortable, sweaty, icky intimacy of a complete stranger?

Buy two seats or stay home, I say.


33 posted on 05/19/2011 8:46:32 AM PDT by fullchroma
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

They probably should consider an initial “weight allowance” for each ticket, then charge extra for every pound by which the initial allowance is exceeded.
But that doesn’t help with seating. Need a charge for extra large “butt prints,” too.


34 posted on 05/19/2011 8:46:58 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Lazamataz

Kind of pretty face but you’d have to roll her in flower and look for the wet spot!


35 posted on 05/19/2011 8:47:01 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

I do give her credit for losing nearly 140 lb.


36 posted on 05/19/2011 8:49:39 AM PDT by slapshot ("Were not gonna take it anymore" Twisted Sister)
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To: Lazamataz
Just getting to the airport is an ordeal....
37 posted on 05/19/2011 8:49:53 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: circlecity

“you’d hit a lubricated oven mitt.”
Actually,Laz would be better off hitting the oven mitt.At least it won’t tell the neighbors.


38 posted on 05/19/2011 8:51:27 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: circlecity

You’ve got ole Laz pegged, haven’t you? LOL!


39 posted on 05/19/2011 8:52:17 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Whoa...human airbag


40 posted on 05/19/2011 8:52:47 AM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: Lazamataz
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41 posted on 05/19/2011 8:53:42 AM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: Blueflag

Southwest now owns AirTran. They might do away with the biz class seats. I travel a lot too, am pampered by the airlines, 150,000 miles a year in the air, yet, at 6 ft tall 230 (a little overweight at the belly but by no means obese) some of the biz class seats are a bit narrow for me. I fit, but I can sometimes feel the sides. They are made like car racing seats, unlike the bench seating in coach.

There is no way that gal in the pictures above will fit in a CRJ even in biz class. She would be more comfy buying 2 seats in coach. I was just on a 767-300 in biz class and she would not have fit because of the built in tray table and audio-visual units (newer planes have the AV on the seatback but many pop up from the center console between the two seats). I have more sympathy for the genetically large (eg tall people, Samoans, etc) but life isn’t fair. Some airlines like Jet Blue have extra legroom seats and they cost more, but tall people almost have to buy them or suffer quietly. Fat people, unfortunately, cause other people to suffer and that is why they should be required to buy 2 seats, unlike tall people who can choose to torture themselves.


42 posted on 05/19/2011 8:53:56 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: basil
HEY!

Stop telling the truth about me!

43 posted on 05/19/2011 8:55:15 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: Lazamataz

LOL!

Whatcha doin’ these days, big guy?


44 posted on 05/19/2011 8:56:54 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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I’d pay for extra legroom.

Is that a high-class way of saying you favor prostitution?

45 posted on 05/19/2011 8:57:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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I'd hit it.

With what, a foot-long sub?

46 posted on 05/19/2011 8:57:24 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (RINO's are more interested in defeating conservatives than they are in defeating Marxists.)
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To: basil

Working to prevent the Zombie Apocalypse, of course! Down here in Hotlanta GA.....How’re you, sweety?


47 posted on 05/19/2011 8:58:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

I don’t think it’s quite a foot long, but sure.


48 posted on 05/19/2011 8:59:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: WellyP
It is funny how that joke got so butchered over the years. No offense to you, I've heard that joke told that way many many times. But just to set the record straight, the punchline is "roll her in flour and "go for the dough."
49 posted on 05/19/2011 9:00:44 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine

Worst seat in the air is a 737-200, coach, configured for short haul, with fixed arm rests.

Next is the 757 short haul.

The CRJs can be punishing, but they also add the insult of a HARD seat bottom.

I can schedule around the smallest CRJs, and usually find at least a Mad Dog 88. Some of the newer RJs flown by Pinnacle and ASA are pretty roomy - at least in the exit aisle.

I am a touch over 6’4” and on the high side of 235. I feel your pain.

The biz class seats with the seat-fitted entertainment units are kinda narrow, I agree. 777 biz class is my fave for cross country flights.

p.s. I don’t fly Air Tran ‘cuz I am pampered by Delta and American. No need to get on a leisure airline ;-)


50 posted on 05/19/2011 9:00:50 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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