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Schwarzenegger backers say they feel betrayed
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 5/19/11 | Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer

Posted on 05/19/2011 9:49:59 AM PDT by SmithL

Sacramento anti-tax advocate Ted Costa looks back at the events he set in motion when he helped kick off California's historic gubernatorial recall in 2003 - culminating in the election of Arnold Schwarzenegger - with more than a little disgust.

"He's betrayed the people who supported him from Day One," said Costa of the former GOP governor, who this week acknowledged betraying wife Maria Shriver by having an affair and an out-of-wedlock child with a housekeeper more than a decade ago. "I don't know why people are shocked."

Melanie Morgan, the former KSFO conservative talk show host who was dubbed the "Mother of the Recall," is also angry. "He squandered his marriage and the good will of the people of California," Morgan said. "And now, he's squandered any legacy."

Ripple effects

The anger of leaders in the recall of then-Gov. Gray Davis, which turned Schwarzenegger from an aging action hero into a state political leader, dramatizes the ripple effects of the sordid scandal that has rocked California.

New revelations surfaced on Wednesday, when the New York Times reported that Schwarzenegger helped his family's longtime housekeeper and the mother of the child, Mildred Patricia Baena, buy a home in Bakersfield last year.

The tawdry tale of infidelity - besides having deep personal impacts on Schwarzenegger's family - has rocked conservative activists around the state. Many of them were involved in the effort to organize and raise money for the recall election.

"It's really despicable," said Jon Fleischman, who publishes the popular Flashreport.org website and who was a supporter of the 2003 recall. Conservatives, he said, are now appalled at Schwarzenegger's record, both personal and political. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnoldlegacy; betrayal; goldenstate; governator; groper; schwarzenegger; sperminator; taxandspend
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We were betrayed a LONG time ago.
1 posted on 05/19/2011 9:50:07 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

last week kfi am 600 la was discussing the rumor that

schwarzenegger was black mailed by the elder nunez,

explaining why the gov gave the pardon as left office

to nunez’ son.


2 posted on 05/19/2011 9:54:24 AM PDT by ken21 (liberal + rino progressive media hate palin, bachman, + cain)
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To: SmithL

A person’s personal life, their moral code, is a good indicator of how they will operate in their political life.


3 posted on 05/19/2011 9:55:49 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NOT FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: SmithL

Hey there Melanie your “Recall Movement” got High-Jacked by the STUPID Calipornia ArnoldBots. Arnold ALWAYS was a FAKE any you Californians bought him hook, line and you ALL were the sinkers.


4 posted on 05/19/2011 9:58:07 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers!)
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To: SmithL

for all the B.S. that Arnold did...I'll remember his treatment of the Santos family the most. Despicable.

5 posted on 05/19/2011 9:59:17 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: ken21

This black mail possibility should help with the law suit to overturn Arnold’s commutation of Nunez’s kid.
The MSM is helping to whitewash Nunez. They always fail to mention that he also wielded a knife and cut someone in the fight. That hardly makes him less guilty than the killer.
He could have been a killer also.


6 posted on 05/19/2011 10:01:35 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: ken21

This black mail possibility should help with the law suit to overturn Arnold’s commutation of Nunez’s kid.
The MSM is helping to whitewash Nunez. They always fail to mention that he also wielded a knife and cut someone in the fight. That hardly makes him less guilty than the killer.
He could have been a killer also.


7 posted on 05/19/2011 10:01:55 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

I only wish there was a way to deport Arnold’s sorry ass back to Austria.


8 posted on 05/19/2011 10:01:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SmithL

It’s amazing what men will sacrifice for some tail. Not being a man, I don’t understand it; but that urge is one mighty powerful deal. If she had a least been a hottie it wouldn’t excuse it, but make it a little more understandable. Anyway, he’s not the first and won’t be the last.


9 posted on 05/19/2011 10:02:31 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: SmithL

You Californians couldn’t have done much worse if Porn Star Mary Carey had won the recall election.


10 posted on 05/19/2011 10:03:27 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers!)
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To: SmithL

Who ever seriously backed this bone head anyway? He was a libtard RINO from the start.


11 posted on 05/19/2011 10:03:58 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Well at least they got Jerry Brown now to see them through. After Davis and Arnold, they learned their lesson. ;)


12 posted on 05/19/2011 10:04:58 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: SmithL

Arnold: From Terminator to Governator to Inseminator


13 posted on 05/19/2011 10:07:14 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: beaversmom
I told my wife this morning -
The good news is I'm not stupping the maid -
The bad news is we don't have a maid so she has to do her own cleaning.

She didn't find it funny for some reason....

14 posted on 05/19/2011 10:08:02 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Ben Hecks

Let me be the first to restate what I have said for the last six years that stands 100% correct today.

He played Conan, he thinks he is Richard the Lionheart but in the end was just an actor on the stage, the court jester. He will go down in history known as Arnold the Fool.


15 posted on 05/19/2011 10:11:08 AM PDT by edcoil (Democrats doing to America what Reagan did to russia. Driving it to bankrupcy.)
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To: Ben Hecks

The Sperminator


16 posted on 05/19/2011 10:13:22 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: SmithL

Did they sleep with him too?


17 posted on 05/19/2011 10:14:57 AM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: SmithL

One of the most frustrating things I see in the conservative movement is the tendency to desperately latch onto supposedly “conservative” celebrities only to be crushed later when it is shown they are no such thing. I’m sorry folks, but TV and music celebs are about the last group of people we need to associate with. It’s fine if the Ted Nugents, Donald Trumps, et al want to be a part of the conservative movement, but having them anywhere near a leadership position is just setting us up for disappointment. We don’t need celebrities, we need leaders!!!


18 posted on 05/19/2011 10:15:08 AM PDT by TruthBeforeAll (I will never ask permission to do what's right.)
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To: Last Dakotan

Women have very little sense of humor when it comes to adultery and/or cleaning or so I’ve been told.


19 posted on 05/19/2011 10:20:49 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: SmithL

Whatever shambles this steroid freak chooses to make of his life is between him and his family. My objection is to the fact that he was a horrible governor - a Republican who ran as a cost-cutting financial conservative and governed as first a spineless compromiser and then as a liberal.


20 posted on 05/19/2011 10:35:44 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SmithL

Schwarzenegger is and always will be just another cheesy actor with no morals. He got lucky and became Govenor of California for a while and that didn’t work out very well.


21 posted on 05/19/2011 10:40:19 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: SatinDoll

First Edwards, then Tiger, now Arnie. Now get back to kissing Bill Clintons’ axx, you’ve enjoyed it so long, better throw in a few blow jobs for good measure, come on now you know you like it. We may have to turn your case over to Barney Fife. Hurry up now, get wih it.


22 posted on 05/19/2011 10:42:40 AM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: beaversmom

That’s also how I see it. My first thought, upon seeing the woman, was, “What the @#%@ was he thinking? Was he really that hard up? Of course, looking at that bony bag of a wife of his, who knows? The male sex drive knows almost no boundaries, and without it, the human race probably would have died out long ago.


23 posted on 05/19/2011 10:46:44 AM PDT by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: Waco

“...Now get back to kissing Bill Clintons’ axx, you’ve enjoyed it so long, better throw in a few blow jobs for good measure,..”

Excuse me?

You go kiss your own ass.


24 posted on 05/19/2011 10:48:18 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NOT FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: SmithL

It sounds like the whole GOP - minus Jeff Sessions and a few others on immigration.


25 posted on 05/19/2011 10:48:48 AM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: TruthBeforeAll

Agreed.


26 posted on 05/19/2011 10:52:13 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: bkopto

Maria wasn’t always that thin. I read an interview with Arnold from years ago where he admitted pushing her to lose weight. She was fine the way she was.

And that maid is one homely skank.


27 posted on 05/19/2011 10:54:46 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Just maybe he compromised and went liberal because he was never really conservative,and the Democrats threatened to expose his sordid affairs?


28 posted on 05/19/2011 11:00:46 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: SmithL

Tsk tsk. The fools who insisted on choosing Arnold over Tom McClintock are no longer happy. Pity.


29 posted on 05/19/2011 11:01:04 AM PDT by Pelham (Islam, mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Last Dakotan

Glad you are alive and able to type.


30 posted on 05/19/2011 11:10:33 AM PDT by mcshot ("...of the people, by the people, for the people..." but we aren't "his people".)
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To: SmithL

THE FORNICATOR


31 posted on 05/19/2011 11:12:02 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: broken_arrow1

Sperm-inator?


32 posted on 05/19/2011 11:23:51 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: pogo101

33 posted on 05/19/2011 11:33:22 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Every day we now throw away things people will kill for after TEOTWAWKI)
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To: fwdude
Who ever seriously backed this bone head anyway? He was a libtard RINO from the start.

You have a short memory. He talked a good game about cutting taxes. He put some good initiatives on the ballot in 2005.

The choice in the 2003 recall was not Arnold vs. Tom McClintock. It was Arnold or Gray or Bustamante. Would you rather have those two?
34 posted on 05/19/2011 11:36:28 AM PDT by fifedom
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To: SmithL

In policy and personal life, he has proven himself to be a Kennedy.


35 posted on 05/19/2011 11:37:44 AM PDT by doug from upland (website reserved just in case: TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: beaversmom
If she had a least been a hottie it wouldn’t excuse it, but make it a little more understandable.

Ahnold is not only an immoral maggot. He's an immoral maggot with extremely bad taste.


36 posted on 05/19/2011 11:40:28 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Every day we now throw away things people will kill for after TEOTWAWKI)
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To: Iron Munro

She looks like the Riddler in Batman, only in drag.


37 posted on 05/19/2011 11:43:24 AM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: fifedom
It was Arnold or Gray or Bustamante. Would you rather have those two?

I would have rather had a conservative.

38 posted on 05/19/2011 11:44:56 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: SmithL

It’s bad enough that he had an affair that the entire world knows about, but it seems to me that it’s far worse that the world now knows that he had an affair with an ugly woman.

Of course his wife looks like the skeleton from the Crypt.... to me.


39 posted on 05/19/2011 11:49:08 AM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: fwdude

I didn’t even give him that much credit. He was just a dancing bear.


40 posted on 05/19/2011 11:53:25 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: fifedom
You have a short memory. He talked a good game about cutting taxes. He put some good initiatives on the ballot in 2005.

No, it's you who has the short memory. Those "good" initiatives were vetted here carefully. They were a ruse.

The choice in the 2003 recall was not Arnold vs. Tom McClintock. It was Arnold or Gray or Bustamante. Would you rather have those two?

That's because you were dumb enough to buy the story. McClintock would have beaten Bustamante one-on-one or if conservatives had actually voted their preferences. The last Gallup poll before the recall proves it. Arnold took as many votes from the Democrats as he did from Republicans.

Here is the last USA Today/CNN/GALLUP poll before the recall.

"6. If the choice were between Cruz Bustamante, the Democrat and Tom McClintock, the Republican, who would you be more likely to vote for: Cruz Bustamante or Tom McClintock?"

September 25-27
Registered Voters

McClintock 49%
Bustamante 42%

Probable Voters

McClintock 56%
Bustamante 37%

41 posted on 05/19/2011 11:54:05 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

The Germanator.


42 posted on 05/19/2011 12:46:14 PM PDT by Defiant (When Democrats lose voters, they manufacture new voters instead of convincing the existing voters.)
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To: fifedom

With benefit of hindsight, I admit I should have voted for McClintock (who was my, and FReepers’, preference anyway), instead of voting for Schwarzenegger as a form of “Bustamante prevention.”

Now, that is not to say that McClintock would have won, for sure. But even if Bustamante won, he would have done so poorly, hiked taxes and spending so rapidly (even compared to the Sperminator), that I HOPE even California’s wacky-left electorate would have placed the blame on the Democrats, where it belongs. (As things are, with a RINO as gov from 03-10, the voters think that “Republicans” were in charge.)

It’s a painful lesson.


43 posted on 05/19/2011 12:48:12 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: SmithL; calcowgirl; SierraWasp; fieldmarshaldj

Gee, the Ahnuldbots are upset with "Conan the Republican"? Does this mean they'll stop shoving phony "fiscally conservative" RINOs down our throats?

44 posted on 05/19/2011 3:12:33 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: SmithL

People get the government they deserve. In California’s case, Schwartzenegger is about as good as we deserve. He’s a symptom of the electorate, not the problem.

That said, if anyone had any stars in their eyes that Arnold was some kind of rock ribbed, fire breathing conservative, then you were betrayed all right. By your own brain.


45 posted on 05/19/2011 3:20:23 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: Carry_Okie; calcowgirl
Indeed, the Ahnuldbots STILL don't seem to "get it". They've been betrayed around 453,674,954 times by RINOs who falsely claim to be "fiscal conservatives", but every time a new RINO emerges on the political scene they tell us it will be different this time and this RINO is really sincere about shrinking government and cutting spending, etc.

They also have a poor memory about what the ballot said. It didn't ask voters "Grey Davis or Bustamante or Arnold?" The ballot actually had a two step process that ensured Davis would have been recalled whether or not the Austrian socialist was running:

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Question #1: Shall Governor Gray Davis be recalled? YES or NO

Question #2: IF he is recalled, who should his replacement be? (135 choices)

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The recall process was on track just fine til Ahnuld and his borg drones hijacked the spotlight and ensured the "frontrunner" to replace Davis was someone even worse.

46 posted on 05/19/2011 3:33:00 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Carry_Okie
No, it's you who has the short memory. Those "good" initiatives were vetted here carefully. They were a ruse.

That's right, they were not perfect. So conservatives stayed home and the Left won a huge victory.

If the choice were between Cruz Bustamante, the Democrat and Tom McClintock, the Republican, who would you be more likely to vote for: Cruz Bustamante or Tom McClintock?"

You can play all the hypothetical mind games you want but in the real election the choice was Arnold vs Bustamante vs McClintock and Gray Davis by voting against recall. McClintock got about 12% of the vote; much less than the others. I admire him but McClintock has also lost every statewide race he has run.
47 posted on 05/19/2011 4:40:31 PM PDT by fifedom
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To: pogo101
It’s a painful lesson.

Yes, hindsight is 20-20. But given what we knew at the time, Arnold was the best choice.

If the lesson you take from this is to go with a quixotic choice, then I think that is a mistake. I will still vote for the most conservative candidate THAT I THINK WILL WIN.

The purists here will revel in voting for their ideal candidate but the rest of us will have to live with the disastrous Leftist government that results.
48 posted on 05/19/2011 5:09:56 PM PDT by fifedom
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To: fifedom
That's right, they were not perfect. So conservatives stayed home and the Left won a huge victory.

Nonsense. To "win" a closet plan to grow spending is no victory in anybody's book. All it gets you is the blame for the failure of liberal policies. Witness how Arnold is being blamed for the deficit, and rightly so. His failures led directly to Brown. That gutless weasel Arnold was so busy handing crooked favors to his backers he never wielded a veto pen like he should have lest he be exposed for being hip-deep in pay for play games. Needless to say, this "love child surprise" is no surprise to anybody.

I admire him but McClintock has also lost every statewide race he has run.

Another ruse: "He can't win." Well he almost did win the controller's race, despite being outspent 5:1 and even when the party was stabbing him in the back. He would have won the recall the Pete Wilson gang tried to stop. When they couldn't stop it, they then tossed in Bob White's half-trained stooge at the last second.

Yeah, "He can't win," when "we" shaft him.

You moron RINOS pretend that only moderates can win. You have been telling us since before Reagan beat George Christopher. You tell conservatives to fall in line for your closet fascist or else, and when you lose it's all our fault. What the hell do you expect us to do after forty years of lies? Every time the GOP base nominates a conservative candidate you "moderates" do everything possible to shaft him. It cuts both ways turkey, and we've had it with your BS, especially after what Team Wilson and Gerry Parsky did to Bill Simon. You "won" all right, with Pete Wilson and then Arnold. Both times you assured us that incrementalism would work. You wrecked this State in the process.

You pulled the same crap with both Bush presidencies, and in both instances they turned a successful conservative backlash into financial ruin and defeat.

Congratulations.

49 posted on 05/19/2011 5:14:37 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: SmithL

Sorry, but Arnold was simply being Arnold. I think betrayal is too strong a word for what should have been expected. Its like being surprised when a Kennedy cheats on their spouse... Well duh...


50 posted on 05/19/2011 5:19:04 PM PDT by DB
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