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'Let Them Eat Birth Certificates'
Townhall.com ^ | May 20, 2011 | Diana West

Posted on 05/20/2011 7:38:59 AM PDT by Kaslin

One feature that marks a totalitarian regime is media that serve as the government's information service. TASS, Radio Berlin, Voice of Hanoi -- these were all government entities that conveyed what the dictatorship wanted. The handout comes, the handout is published. The real danger point arrives when propaganda no longer rankles, but flows naturally. That's when authority carries more weight than evidence, and peer pressure suppresses independent thinking. It's also when captives become subjects.

Watching our free, First-Amendment-protected media react to the surprising release of President Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate, I have to wonder: What exactly is the difference? I exaggerate, but not much. It's been three weeks since Obama first made his long-form birth certificate public on April 27, 2011. Why, suddenly, did he do this, and not in 2008, 2009 or 2010 when this first of the missing bona fides became a focal point of deep national consternation? Why did Obama send lawyers to courtroom after courtroom to keep this simple document hidden -- and now mass-produce it on Obama 2012 campaign t-shirts? Why did Obama prefer to see Army Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin throw away his military career and go to prison for five months rather than, presto, authorize the document's release? The answers have something to do with political inroads Donald Trump was quite unexpectedly making simply by asking natural, obvious questions about Obama that neither Big Media nor someone of un-ignorable celebrity had ever asked before. But that's not the whole story.

We have the long-form birth certificate now -- or at least another highly questionable PDF of a scan of a copy of a document to stare at online (and, almost ghoulishly, on those Obama 2012 campaign T-shirts) -- but we don't have all the answers. Certainly we didn't get them from the "off camera and only pen and pad, not for audio" White House briefing on the document's release. That's because the media don't think, can't think to ask for them. Having spent years fending off the rare query about the long-form birth certificate like angry cats snarling that the president had already released his birth certificate, they didn't even seem to notice what chumps the new Obama document -- the one they said had already been released -- showed them all to be.

Either that, or they channeled their anger at ... Donald Trump. At that moment the non-declared GOP presidential front-runner, Trump got off his helicopter in New Hampshire also on April 27 to discuss his big coup, which is how he viewed the release of this first document in Obama's hidden paper trail. To say the media didn't share Trump's positive views on transparency is the understatement of the year.

First question to Trump: You're taking "credit" but a lot of people say what you caused was a distraction.

The president plays games for three years and Trump caused the "distraction"? And "distraction" from what -- White House talking points? Remember, this is supposed to be a professional journalist talking.

Second question to Trump, who said he still wanted to know what took Obama so long: Why is it relevant?

Again, this isn't supposed to be a member of Obama's re-election team, at least not officially. Another question: What are your qualifications to assess it (the birth certificate)?

Another question: Who cares (whether Obama releases his academic records)?

Who cares?

These aren't questions from reporters who follow facts where they lead. These are people who have circled the wagons, and woe to anyone outside. Meanwhile, back at the simultaneous White House briefing, the transcript shows what happened when one journalist haltingly attempted to do his job:

"Q. And this is going to sound -- I mean, you can just anticipate what people are going to -- remain unconvinced. They're going to say that this is just a photocopy of a piece of paper, you could have typed anything in there. Will the actual certificate be on display or viewable at any -- (laughter.)"

Laughter. That was the answer.

Evidence is a joke to media in thrall to authority, those whose incuriosity about the many mundane documents Obama has mysteriously withheld from us leads to copy fit only for a palace pamphlet. From the transcript: "Q. Dan, was there a debate about whether or not this deserved being discussed by the White House .... was there debate about whether or not this was worthy of the White House?"

Let them eat birth certificates.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; birther; certifigate; enoughalready; fraud; identitytheft; impeach; naturalborncitizen
Notice the text box next to Full name of father

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1 posted on 05/20/2011 7:39:00 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The bottom one, which was produced by the President, was completely done by computer with the Courier New Font.

The Top one was done with an actual typewriter.

The President’s one has everything in a perfect straight line, and has the parents name using a tab key.

The top one, just by looking at the birth date, you can tell was typed up, because it is not in a perfect straight line.


2 posted on 05/20/2011 7:49:56 AM PDT by Eric Roelfsema
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To: Kaslin
I have one more question for Mr. Trump: Have the "experts" you said you had told you that the White House pdf released April 27, is genuine?

ML/NJ

3 posted on 05/20/2011 7:50:45 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Kaslin
Money Quote: "We have the long-form birth certificate now -- or at least another highly questionable PDF of a scan of a copy of a document to stare at online ..."

Not much but it is a start. It's nice to see the skepticism spreading from World Net Daily to other major websites. Townhall.com is a pretty big deal. A very major conservative leaning news source.

Hope it keeps spreading. WND cannot do this by itself.

4 posted on 05/20/2011 7:53:03 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (w)
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To: Eric Roelfsema

I’m Irate the media will Cover the IMF Scandal, Arnold’s love child & no one will adress the Fake BC of the arrogant Obama!!

Even Drudge Report will not cover this!!

I want Obama exposed & removed from the WH!!

What is it going to take??


5 posted on 05/20/2011 7:58:06 AM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: Kaslin
Watching our free, First-Amendment-protected media react to the surprising release of President Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate, I have to wonder: What exactly is the difference?

Our government propaganda organ, also know as the Mainstream Corporate Media, is much better paid.

6 posted on 05/20/2011 7:58:36 AM PDT by Roninf5-1 (If ignorance is bliss why are so many Americans on anti-depressants?)
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To: Eric Roelfsema
Did you also notice line 22 in the top one
7 posted on 05/20/2011 7:59:59 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Look also at the dates next to the signatures at the bottom.


8 posted on 05/20/2011 8:00:55 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: Kaslin
Soros has influence over a majority of the media, our president, state department and probably the current middle east manipulations. He is who needs to be investigated.
9 posted on 05/20/2011 8:04:10 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Kaslin
Where did the top one come from???...Never have seen that one...but I don't follow all of it real close
10 posted on 05/20/2011 8:37:55 AM PDT by M-cubed
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To: InterceptPoint

Diana West, is one of the best! very courageous. she took a lot of flak right here on FR, for saying we should get our brave troops out of Afghanistan, since we don’t have a defined enemy, mission, and the ridiculous ROE are killing them.

...as for the forgery points above, certainly they are suspicious, but not conclusive. no tabs, centering, etc, are curious, when all the other forms we have show clear tabs, left margins lined up, etc.
but to me, just these 3 below are simple, and definitive.
1) signatures of different resolutions (impossible!):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2720608/posts?page=23#23
2) words without curving, typed under headers that curve with the photocopy:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=186343
3) boxes that are identical down to the pixel:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/irrefutable-proof-obamas-new-birth.html


11 posted on 05/20/2011 9:23:58 AM PDT by Elendur
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To: M-cubed

I don’t recall where I found it. I noticed right after the arrogant pos released the one on the bottom. Perhaps other Freepers seen it too


12 posted on 05/20/2011 9:30:38 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: ebysan

“What is it going to take??”

The election in 2012 of a patriotic American NBC President.


13 posted on 05/20/2011 10:13:49 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: Kaslin

I have noticed that from the start when I first saw it on the Hawaiian newspaper website.


14 posted on 05/20/2011 11:04:22 AM PDT by Eric Roelfsema
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To: Kaslin
Only 1 way to find out!!!...and I'm dead serious here....

Release it to the media...in Internet form only. NO ACTUAL PAPER DOCUMENT TO BE EXAMINED .....Let THEM scramble like hell to prove it false.....Let their foresnic experts debunk it off the computer...See how interested they are about doing their job??....If they don't find out or make an effort.....make it go viral!....To the average layman it looks real and would explain alot

(Maybe some FReepers on here that follow this closely can explain where it came from...How about it FReepers?? If there is no easy explanation it could blow the top off the fraud in chief)

15 posted on 05/20/2011 11:21:48 AM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Michael.SF.

Yeah, I noticed them


16 posted on 05/20/2011 11:30:31 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: M-cubed; Kaslin

The upper one is a known fake. Not only do the “typewritten” characters not line up vertically, they don’t even line up horizontally. It was a poorly executed cut-n-paste job by a rank amateur who didn’t know how a typewriter works.


17 posted on 05/20/2011 12:38:55 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We still love you!)
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To: CanaGuy

Do U have confirmation of that?
Is there an actual paper document?

Not saying you’re wrong...but lets see the evidence...


18 posted on 05/20/2011 12:49:20 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Kaslin

“Did you also notice line 22 in the top one”

That’s just unbelievable, but is much more believable than the fake BO just put out.


19 posted on 05/20/2011 1:14:32 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: M-cubed
Do some really easy research for yourself.

There are hundreds of websites discussing in the minutest of detail "The Blaine Hoax", or the "Blaine Birth Certificate", or "The Blaine Spoof", etc. The BC that was used as a template clearly came from an early posting by Alan Blaine of his own Hawaiian BC.

The Blaine BC Hoax

But like I said, it's the incompentent way they computer/cut/pasted "typewriter" characters, with no regard to alignment, that really makes me laugh.

20 posted on 05/20/2011 1:38:56 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We still love you!)
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To: CanaGuy

Oops, typo....didn’t mean to look “incompetent”!


21 posted on 05/20/2011 1:45:10 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We still love you!)
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To: CanaGuy
RE: Your link...

Page not found
Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog Barackryphal does not exist.

(I'll try to find an authoritative link on my own...But my point was that it would be fun to see a “
forensic expert” debunk the first and explain all the errors in the 2nd without any actual paper document.)

22 posted on 05/20/2011 1:54:16 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Kaslin
No matter what Obama’s status is, this episode has shown the media outlets to be hopelessly biased and unreliable.
23 posted on 05/20/2011 2:08:07 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: M-cubed
Try again using cut/paste this, because it works for me....

http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2011/04/provenance-of-blaine-birth-certificate.html

24 posted on 05/20/2011 2:15:30 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We still love you!)
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To: Eric Roelfsema; Kaslin
The bottom one, which was produced by the President, was completely done by computer with the Courier New Font. The Top one was done with an actual typewriter.

Bottom one? Top one? I only see one form. WTH are you talking about?

25 posted on 05/20/2011 2:37:13 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Eric Roelfsema
NOW it posts up ...... sorry, someone's computer is not talking to someone's browser and someone's ISP is very slow talking through someone's very slow dialup (26.4KBaud nailed-up, thanks to AT&T), it took forever and I had only the "bottom" form to look at.
26 posted on 05/20/2011 2:40:04 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Kaslin
Kas, where did the first one come from? I've never seen it before.

It was filled out and signed by Madalyn Dunham (grandmother) four days before Stanley Ann signed the one the President released. Authenticity? Has it been vetted by documentarians?

Was the bottom cut off the one the President released, or is it just cut off in your copy of it?

The typed-in note at the bottom of Madalyn Dunham's submission .....place of birth Kenya? is that original? WTH?

Remember, Obozo only started going around telling people "I was born in Africa" after he got his butt stomped by Bobby Rush in the congressional race they contested, in which Rush portrayed Obama as a Harvard-hothouse "tan man"/"Oreo" and Not Black Enough.

If these docs have been discussed online, would appr. a link or other pointer.

27 posted on 05/20/2011 2:54:33 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: opentalk
Soros .... is who needs to be investigated interrogated.

There. That improve things any?

That, and his e-mails and correspondence dumped on the Net.

28 posted on 05/20/2011 3:02:55 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Kaslin; Eric Roelfsema
Kaslin, if you knew the first one was a spoof or a fake, then why did you even post it?

It's hard enough keeping up with the President's fake documents (like the "short form" COLB) .... (and presumably the new "long form" one) .....

Why help a three-card monte dealer shuffle his scam, by throwing more fake cards down, and making it four-, five-, and six-card monte?

I thought that was what Orly Taitz was having a problem with.

29 posted on 05/20/2011 3:17:38 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Kaslin
Does anyone know if there have been calls for Obama to pardon Army Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin and to restore his military rank and benefits?

That strikes me as a dangerous political problem for Obama to solve.

30 posted on 05/21/2011 6:52:10 PM PDT by zeestephen
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