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60 DAYS IN LIBYA: GOP senators press Obama on war powers
cnn.com ^ | May 18th, 2011 06:57 PM ET | CNN Senior Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash

Posted on 05/20/2011 9:00:04 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Republican senators press president on War Powers deadline

Washington (CNN) – As the U.S. military campaign in Libya approaches the 60-day mark this Friday, six Republican senators wrote President Obama asking if he will comply with the War Powers Act, which says Congress must authorize action that lasts more than 60 days.

"Friday is the final day of the statutory sixty-day period for you to terminate the use of the United States Armed Forces in Libya under the War Powers Resolution. Last week some in your Administration indicated use of the United States Armed Forces will continue indefinitely, while others said you would act in a manner consistent with the War Powers Resolution. Therefore, we are writing to ask whether you intend to comply with the requirements of the War Powers Resolution. We await your response," wrote the GOP senators Wednesday.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 60days; bho44; gop; impeachobama; libya; obama; obamaswar; press; senators; war; warpowers; warpowersact

1 posted on 05/20/2011 9:00:07 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Days, not weeks, months or years. LOL


2 posted on 05/20/2011 9:01:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

He can’t possibly ignore this...

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/05/19/will_the_white_house_ignore_the_war_powers_resolution

Well he can and would get away with it as the media thinks he is so above the law they cover for him.


3 posted on 05/20/2011 9:07:30 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Stupid pubies.

Give him a change to stay within the law?

Wait until Monday, then bring charges.


4 posted on 05/20/2011 9:07:37 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 848 of our national holiday from reality. - OBL Dead? The TSA can go away!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

If only we had a majority in the senate.
We could impeach this Ohole.


5 posted on 05/20/2011 9:10:18 AM PDT by mylife
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

The first girlie mistake was asking him if was going to comply with the law?” By asking, they gave him permission to ignore the law.


6 posted on 05/20/2011 9:12:07 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: mylife
"Levin, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, told The Hill he believes formal congressional authorization for the Libyan intervention is unnecessary."
7 posted on 05/20/2011 9:12:43 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Well, Levin is full of crap.


8 posted on 05/20/2011 9:16:11 AM PDT by mylife
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Sooooo..... what are they gonna do about it?

Send another letter?

Republicans, the new party of letter writing to demand things from power hungry dictators.

Honestly, I would love to see what exactly they will do.


9 posted on 05/20/2011 9:21:07 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
"There is a law. It's on the books, and in plain reading of the War Powers Act, he appears to be in violation of the War Powers Act."

Whether or not we think the War Powers Act is constitutional, we do not have right to ignore it. It is the Supreme Court's responsibility and right to make that determination. Chaos results when it is left up to presidents, congressmen, judges, bureaucrats, or even the military to ignore laws they believe are unconstitutional. The proper way is challenge them in court. Until a law is declared unconstitutional in a court of law, we must support it and enforce it, unless, of course, it is also immoral. I don't think anyone can make the case, though, that the War Powers Act is immoral.

President Obama, then, is obligated to obey the War Powers Act, whether or not he believes it is unconstitutional. And the House of Representatives should impeach him for already failing to do so. Our actions against Libya are clearly in violation of the War Powers Act. He should be impeached and the Senate should put him on trial and remove him from office for failing to uphold the laws of the United States. The violation has already occurred by simply engaging in the operation, whether or not he violates it further by failing to get congressional approval within 60 days. The violation that will occur at midnight tonight is merely a second count against him.

If, in his Senate trial, he wishes to make the case that the War Powers Act is unconstitutional, then let him do that. It really doesn't help his case, because he still has the obligation to obey it until that is decided by the courts. If the Senate to acquit him on that grounds, then that would give those who believe the War Powers Act is unconstitutional a pretty strong argument.

Of course, this ain't gonna happen because there no one in either the House or the Senate has big enough stones to do it. But it is fun, in a frustrating sort of way, to dream about it.

If Senator Paul really believes what he says, then he has a constitutional responsibility to work to get his colleagues in the House of Representatives to introduce the appropriate articles of impeachment against President Obama.

10 posted on 05/20/2011 9:21:21 AM PDT by StonyMan451
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
One possible response from 'the administration' - as related through Jay "Gibby Junior" Carney at an upcoming 'press briefing':

"...and I'd like to remind all those in congress who are criticizing our Dear Leader about Libya by invoking the so-called "War Powers Act" that the so-called "WAR Powers Act" does not apply here. There is NO war; I repeat NO war! The current activities in Libya are nothing more than a short-term ongoing kinetic military action; and they're NOT even a >b>U.S. kinetic military action -- they are part of a NATO kinetic military action. So, U.S. law does not apply here! And even if it did, there is no such thing as the "Kinetic Military Action Powers Act", so their ARE no restrictions on the president's powers in that regard. These unpatriotic republicans in congress just need to get out of the president's face about this before someone gets hurt.

Also, the U.N., you know, the United NATIONS, which I remind you is a WORLD-wide political body, passed a Resolution, a WHOLE Resolution, permitting our president to do pretty much anything he wants in Libya. And I ask you, what business does ANYONE in our mere NATIONAL-level congress have DISAGREEING with a WORLD-wide political organization?

These people need to wise up and realize who's REALLY in charge around here -- and they need to keep in mind that WE know where each and every one of them lives..."

11 posted on 05/20/2011 9:29:29 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: WayneS

The U.S. IS NATO.


12 posted on 05/20/2011 9:51:19 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: StonyMan451

Paul may be the only one we can count on.Why is he not speaking up?


13 posted on 05/20/2011 9:52:22 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

This whole adventure is intended to benefit European economies, globalist transnational government, and opportunistic jihadists at the cost - again - of American blood and money. Of course, the present administration does have a vested interest in the success of opportunist jihadists, and globalism.

This thing is toxic at every level.


14 posted on 05/20/2011 9:58:55 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Your party left you.)
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To: Psalm 144

Global communism failed with global warming so now Obama has to gut the US to force NWO. If anyone has any evidence otherwise please post.


15 posted on 05/20/2011 10:04:05 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

“We await your response,” wrote the GOP senators Wednesday”

They will be waiting a long time. Barry doesn’t need anyone’s permission. He is King now and everybody needs to sit down and STFU.


16 posted on 05/20/2011 10:25:33 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: autumnraine

Yes.

But this time it will be a “VERY sternly-worded letter” instead of just a “sternly worded letter” like the last one...


17 posted on 05/20/2011 10:44:09 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
This little understanding needs to be cleared up. The War Powers act only applies to Republican Presidents. It was never intended to be applied to a Rat President.
18 posted on 05/20/2011 3:08:18 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

Imagine the media if it were Bush as POTUS right now.


19 posted on 05/20/2011 3:37:40 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
I can easily imagine what would be happening in President Bush were still in office. The a..hole libs would be screaming, having fits, and foaming at the mouth every night chanting "War Powers Act." The President had BETTER adhere to the War Power Act. Grrrrrr Grrrrrrrr Grrrrrrr. And their A/H buddies in the state run media would be in agreement and everyone would be in a royal fury.

But - now that a DEMOCRAT is in office, who cares? And besides, Obama has essentially told them all to stick their War Powers Act where the sun don't shine. He just couldn't care less.

20 posted on 05/20/2011 8:40:34 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Be interesting if the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for Obaba.


21 posted on 05/20/2011 10:19:42 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Obama, the most corrupt and incompetent President since Carter.)
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To: mylife
If only we had a majority in the senate. We could impeach this Ohole.

I DOUBT that would happen. By the way, who controls the budget to fund this Libyan War?

22 posted on 05/20/2011 11:59:53 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

It is time for the GOP senators to filibust EVERYTHING and halt the vast majority of Hussien’s agenda.


23 posted on 05/21/2011 6:49:09 AM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
The RAT party is made up of hypocrites and the American voters are just to dumb to understand.

Barack Obama's Q&A (covers War Powers Act)
By Charlie Savage
Globe Staff / December 20, 2007

24 posted on 05/21/2011 8:12:54 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

War Powers Act? War Powers Act? I dun NEED no steenkin' War Powers Act!!!

25 posted on 05/21/2011 9:38:08 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

The War Powers Act is a distraction. It exists simply to “clarify” the role of Congress in declaring war.

The Constitution makes clear only Congress can declare war. The President makes war, but only after Congress declares it. The purpose being to avoid all these petty foreign entanglements that sapped and broke the British, French and other foreign “super” powers throughout history.

If Congress doesn’t put its foot down here we’re done.


26 posted on 05/21/2011 11:52:42 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
0 doesn't give a fig about Libya.

It was a war of distraction away from GUNRUNNER.

Look for Dumb0 to be magnanimous in compromising with the GOP.

27 posted on 05/21/2011 5:30:40 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: 1010RD
If Congress doesn’t put its foot down here we’re done.

Congress should have put it's foot down long before now, even before 2002/2003 and Iraq, and we should get away from this nation-building/regime-change nonsense.

It's one thing when you have Afghanistan harboring the people who attacked us in 2001, but Bush set the stage for Nobama when he laid out freeing the Iraqi people as one of the three main reasons to invade Iraq, and going back to Clinton, the elder Bush, and Reagan before him, we've now got three decades where the US has constantly been involved in serious regime change/nation building through the use of our military and without a declaration of war.

We basically have two generations of people who are used to Presidents getting us into regime change/nation building and think it's normal, and we've got to stop that.

If we are going to go to war, then it should be serious enough to declare war.
28 posted on 05/21/2011 8:10:37 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
"We await your response," wrote the GOP senators"

Hope they're not holding their breaths...

29 posted on 05/21/2011 8:22:48 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: 1010RD
If Congress doesn’t put its foot down here we’re done.

That statement has been made in so many contexts recently that it has become necessary to make a rubber stamp to spare the writing cramps.

30 posted on 05/21/2011 10:33:08 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: The Theophilus

As I was writing it I thought the same thing. Hyperbole can only be effective in isolation.

What I should have said is we’re done with the War Powers Act. It’s specificity and time limit are necessary, but if Congress won’t enforce it then it’s a garbage law.

Actually, I am optimistic that we can work our way back from the Imperial Presidency and Executive. Conservatives and Liberals have many points of agreement on the Bill of Rights and Constitution despite the glaring differences. Much of that can be used to nudge our country away from socialism and back toward Federalism and the Constitutional limitations on government.

The biggest challenge is the money. There are beneficiaries of all that government largesse and some bring votes and the others sophisticated and powerful political connections. It is a tough battle. If we retake Congress it will be a start.


31 posted on 05/22/2011 5:05:00 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: af_vet_rr

The WPA is a symptom. Our Founders expected Congress to run things. They have the purse strings and write the laws. That’s almost the entire power of government.

Starting with Teddy R. and accelerating to an incredible rate under FDR the Legislature transferred their right and privilege to the Executive. That’s completely unConstitutional. It doesn’t make any sense under our Constitution.

That power needs to be clawed back, but I don’t see the stomach for it in Congress. It will have to be the people. Kelo, became a victory for property rights because state legislatures stepped in. People get it in general, they need a trigger and a leader to complete the circle.

We’re doing it with the 2nd Amendment and on the abortion issue. We need to do it on the rest of the Constitution. Sadly, AP government classes reinforce the false ideas that the Constitution is simply a “framework for governance” and a living document. They also constantly claim we are a democracy, when we are really a republic. Our challenge is overcoming the academy. For that we need vouchers.


32 posted on 05/22/2011 5:36:51 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
We need to start booting people out of Congress, and we need to stop listening to the people who say we have to support incumbent Republicans, even if they are RINOs. This whole idea that we have to choose the lesser of two evils has gotten us in this mess, because not only are we still choosing evil, we are enabling that evil.

We've got to start punishing Congress by booting them out of office every so often. Once they get in there and get bribed by the lobbyists, they stop representing us and start representing lobbyists and the federal government.

At this point I'm sold on a third party because we've got too many RINO enablers floating around who keep telling us that we have to support the RINOs over the Democrats when in fact those RINOs are just liberals in disguise and are doing a lot of harm to this nation.

We should have booted out every Republican who supported the PATRIOT Act and the expansion of the federal government's powers in the wake of 9/11, because those Republicans have screwed us. They've given the liberals the tools to oppress us and it's only a matter of time before things get much, much worse.
33 posted on 05/22/2011 11:41:18 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Though we agree, you’ll have to point to any race on the Federal level where a 3rd party candidate has a feather’s chance of winning.


34 posted on 05/22/2011 12:21:31 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Though we agree, you’ll have to point to any race on the Federal level where a 3rd party candidate has a feather’s chance of winning.

3rd party candidates don't have a chance on the federal/national level because the moderates of both parties have done a good job of convincing people that you have to vote for a "D" or "R" no matter how distasteful you may find them. Our ancestors had no problems with ditching a party that had ditched them, but we've been brainwashed into thinking that we have to pick one or the other.

Maybe your ideas of starting with our children or grandchildren are the right idea, and maybe getting them to look beyond party labels and look at what's actually being done by our politicians is the right way, but the two parties have done such a good job of indoctrinating the older folks, that I don't see that changing with the younger folks.

If anything, things are worse. Look at what passes for entertainment on the broadcast networks - crappy fluff that takes morons and puts them on pedestals, whether it's some crappy reality show on NBC with a bunch of airheads or Rupert Murdoch pushing pro-homosexual beliefs out to our nation's youth through Fox.

In this kind of environment, it's easy to see how the moderates/liberals/RINOs are able to keep selling themselves election after election. Hell, look at what passes for news on the morning shows - MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, they are all staffed by complete and utter airheads in the mornings who do nothing but regurgitate useless stories that should have no importance whatsoever to the majority of Americans.

Even we fall into this trap. Start a thread about some airhead celebrity bashing a Republican. Now start a thread about somebody doing something that affects this country's future or our the Constitution. Nine times out of ten, the thread with some airhead celebrity bashing a Republican will get many more replies.
35 posted on 05/22/2011 1:13:03 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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