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Al-Qaida Eyed Oil Tankers as Bombing Targets
Yahoo via AP ^ | May 21, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 05/20/2011 10:26:03 PM PDT by lbryce

Osama bin Laden's personal files revealed a brazen idea to hijack oil tankers and blow them up at sea last summer, creating explosions he hoped would rattle the world's economy and send oil prices skyrocketing, the U.S. said Friday.

The newly disclosed plot showed that while bin Laden was always scheming for the next big strike that would kill thousands of Americans, he also believed a relatively simpler attack on the oil industry could create a worldwide panic that would hurt Westerners every time they gassed up their cars.

U.S. officials said the tanker idea, included in documents found in the compound where bin Laden was killed nearly three weeks ago, was little more than an al-Qaida fantasy. But the FBI and the Homeland Security Department issued a confidential warning to police and the energy industry Thursday. The alert, obtained by The Associated Press, said that al-Qaida had sought information on the size and construction of oil tankers, had decided that spring and summer provided the best weather to approach the ships, had determined that blowing them up would be easiest from the inside and believed an explosion would create an "extreme economic crisis."

Bin Laden's documents also revealed that in February 2010, the terror group identified New York, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles and Chicago as important cities that should be attacked; and it eyed specific dates, including the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, Christmas, July Fourth and the State of the Union address, according to a similar alert issued Friday, obtained by the AP. There is no information indicating that there are plots involving these cities, dates and tactics under way.

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Yeah, found the plans among his porno stash stuck in the centerfold of Muhammad Martyr Magazine.


1 posted on 05/20/2011 10:26:05 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce
"Los Angeles"

The bio-scum there are purposing to ruin AZ's economy so I say, "Fine by me."


2 posted on 05/20/2011 10:42:28 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: lbryce

Yeah? Well they didn’t have to, did they? They had obama to do it for them...and he did. Still wondering about the BP explosion. Still not satisfied it was an accident.


3 posted on 05/20/2011 10:50:02 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: lbryce

One word concerning the seriousness of Isamic jihad plans:

“Beslen.”

Dont think for a second they havent thought of doing it here.


4 posted on 05/20/2011 11:22:25 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: MestaMachine
Very good point about BP...I thought sabotage, too.....BECAUSE...

it was a "planned occasion" with the big boys aboard and who I perceived as the terrorist parties (the 2 guys in a special room...who were killed).

I simply believe the terrorists have penetrated the USA in all areas.

5 posted on 05/20/2011 11:27:23 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: lbryce

...and believed an explosion would create an “extreme economic crisis.”

It seems Ubama had better plans than Osama to destroy the US economy. Crafty fellows. /sarc

Foreign or Domestic; does it matter? I say it does not.


6 posted on 05/20/2011 11:43:43 PM PDT by ri4dc (Cut your cable, Break Wind for the TSA, Flush Twice in 2012, ROTUS Meet the Hermanator)
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To: MestaMachine; Sacajaweau; Crim

You’d think, Al Qaeda, desperate, very desperate for anything that proves they are still viable would take credit. They want, need bragging rights to a successful operation to survive.


7 posted on 05/20/2011 11:48:39 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO:Satan's Evil Twin)
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To: lbryce
I don't think they took credit for Ft. Hood or the Times Square dude or the panty dude...

Maybe it's no longer their policy...and they prefer deep cover.

8 posted on 05/20/2011 11:54:52 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: I see my hands
Your tagline, funny, irreverent,indifferent. .... made me giggle. .
9 posted on 05/20/2011 11:56:35 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO:Satan's Evil Twin)
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To: Crim

They have,but in my opinion, the only thing that has stopped them is that AMERICANS ARE ARMED. The carnage on their worthless asses would be far too costly for them right now. Crazy as it is, it seems the American psyche can handle the senseless murder, heinous as it is, of thouands of innocent adults without losing their grip, but an attack like that on children would snap us like a rubber band wound too tight.
This country doesn’t have enough body bags or cement scrapers to gather their remains up if they did something like that. There would not be a mosque left standing in this whole country and they damn well know it.


10 posted on 05/20/2011 11:59:25 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: lbryce

not if their decapitation strike is sitting in the white hut.


11 posted on 05/21/2011 12:01:04 AM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: Sacajaweau

It seems they prefer blue b o. No disrespct to linda ronstadt. (Well, maybe a little.)


12 posted on 05/21/2011 12:03:26 AM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: lbryce
I'm happy to have lent you a smile. Thanks for paying it back.

13 posted on 05/21/2011 12:08:59 AM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: MestaMachine
“They have,but in my opinion, the only thing that has stopped them is that AMERICANS ARE ARMED. The carnage on their worthless asses would be far too costly for them right now. Crazy as it is, it seems the American psyche can handle the senseless murder, heinous as it is, of thouands of innocent adults without losing their grip, but an attack like that on children would snap us like a rubber band wound too tight.
This country doesn’t have enough body bags or cement scrapers to gather their remains up if they did something like that. There would not be a mosque left standing in this whole country and they damn well know it.”

Problem...doesnt take a “they”...only takes a fanatical “few” or “one”

And the whole point of a suicide attack....you really dont care what happens after the attack...

The soviets (yes I still call them that) certainly arent a bunch of pussies...and the jihadiststs still attacked beslen...

“a rifle behind every blade of grass” may have made difference to a foreign power.....it makes no difference to a jihadist...

Anyone who has run out this wargame into the perceivable knows it only has one of two endings....but both are the same act...

genocide.....

ours...

or theirs...

We lack the will...not the means....

They lack the means...not the will...

As soon as they have the means....they will do it... And just because I see where this is going...doesnt mean that's what I want to happen...

I'd settle for the jihadists to stop blowing shit up and killing people...

They would settle for my submission to allah...

but that aint gonna happen......ever...

So....

The dance continues...

14 posted on 05/21/2011 12:24:09 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: lbryce

Very scary. It doesn’t take much to find 4-5 Shahab psychos to hijack a ship and then blow it up.


15 posted on 05/21/2011 2:53:52 AM PDT by mewykwistmas (Lost your job as a birther under Obama? Become a 'deather'! Where's Bin Laden's death certificate?)
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To: MestaMachine

Even if they fail and SWAT kills them 5 minutes after taking hostages, jihadists have won, big time! Fear and uncertainty is what they want.


16 posted on 05/21/2011 2:56:13 AM PDT by mewykwistmas (Lost your job as a birther under Obama? Become a 'deather'! Where's Bin Laden's death certificate?)
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To: mewykwistmas

They want that, but above all they want a body count.


17 posted on 05/21/2011 3:01:15 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2

Dead infidels are an added bonus no doubt, but let’s be honest: how hard is to kill a bunch of civilians in a mall, ice cream stand or movie theater? Within 30 seconds you’re talking quit a few.

But the scariest is the pirate suicide bomber one, especially since ships will think it’s the normal hijacking (like people did on 9/11) and let them take over. I hope they are talking precautions, this story sounds like a horrible “hey, how about...” to the Somali Al Qaeda. Imagine oil prices and the ecologic disaster


18 posted on 05/21/2011 3:09:51 AM PDT by mewykwistmas (Lost your job as a birther under Obama? Become a 'deather'! Where's Bin Laden's death certificate?)
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To: mewykwistmas

They know how it works, they already have the market with oil. The prices are already a total joke (shh, we can’t really admit that, shh).

A high body count on a sudden attack though will cost a ton, like going after bin laden and co was what, $3T?


19 posted on 05/21/2011 3:13:54 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: MestaMachine

Exactly. Obama war on oil companies is working hard at doing Osama’s job for him.

Like I have said before Obama is the greater threat.Osama was a piker compared to the Imam in the White House.


20 posted on 05/21/2011 4:16:19 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: lbryce; I see my hands; Sacajaweau; MestaMachine; Crim; mewykwistmas; Tolsti2; nutmeg; USF; ...
"...In Summer of 1994 was when the first plans were drawn up for a major terrorist attack against Western interests in the Straits of Malacca. The plan was to highjack an oil tanker in the Straits of Malacca and ground it in Phillips Channel to be followed by a collision with another hijacked vessel. The planned attack was meant to be in response to the jailing of Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman. The planned attack never took place..."

CONTINUED...

Yin and Yang - An American Expat in Southeast Asia

21 posted on 05/21/2011 4:35:06 AM PDT by expatguy (Donations make Expat Better!)
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To: lbryce; I see my hands; MestaMachine; Crim; Sacajaweau; ri4dc; mewykwistmas; Tolsti2

Everything in a free society is a target. The group of us could sit down and come up with hundreds of viable targets. Since 9/11 nothing else has happened.

Is it logistical? Do our enemies not have enough funding or know how?

The threat is exaggerated, though real. In a decade nothing.


22 posted on 05/21/2011 4:44:08 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Quit spiking the football. Gezz I am sure we are going to get attacked as they have changed their playbook because of I,ME Obama.

Bet he doesn't use those terms after we are hit.

BUSH BUSH BUSH

23 posted on 05/21/2011 4:48:15 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: scooby321

He wants and needs a terrorist incident. It means control, a rationale for big government and an opportunity for us to “not switch leaders mid-crisis”. It’s win-win and what’s a few dead Americans with all the evil we’ve done in the world to date.

Yet, these incompetent murderous psychos aren’t acting fast enough for the One. At least the oceans have stopped rising and the world’s beginning to heel...


24 posted on 05/21/2011 4:58:30 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks lbryce.
last summer, creating explosions he hoped would rattle the world's economy and send oil prices skyrocketing
The fact that he didn't caused disappointment around the White House that was palpable. It wouldn't come as a surprise to learn that Osama's failure to get this carried out was the main reason Zero had him killed.


25 posted on 05/21/2011 5:32:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: lbryce

Only confirming what has long been discussed within the field of terrorism, counter-terrorism, etc.


26 posted on 05/21/2011 6:35:40 AM PDT by cranked
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To: ri4dc

I don’t think they were so crafty. With our inability to end the Somali pirate problem, Osama, if he still had mone, could have “bought” an oil tanker. Using a suicide squad they could have taken it somplace and created some real havoc.

We’re fortunate that al Qaeda is into symbolic and was only looking at major cities.


27 posted on 05/21/2011 6:42:42 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: lbryce

Apparently, he was just itching to meet the Navy’s SEALs; be careful what you wish for...


28 posted on 05/21/2011 10:52:52 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (e)
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To: lbryce

Apparently, he was just itching to meet the Navy’s SEALs; be careful what you wish for...


29 posted on 05/21/2011 10:53:12 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (e)
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To: lbryce

Their goal is destruction, regardless if it comes with publicity. For instance, ETA will make an announcement before they set off a bomb. AQ does not. ETA is trying to make a point and (currently)not necessarily trying to kill people (although they have). Where AQ wants to take down our way of life, that is their goal, economic and social destruction. Achieving their goals do not necessarily mean gaining attention.


30 posted on 05/21/2011 4:14:46 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: 1010RD

Nothing has happened since 9/11? For real? Or are you only referring to the United States? There have been many other attacks in Europe and Asia. And there have been many attempts in the US. In fact the attempts have tripled over the last couple of years compared to entire time Bush was in office. Glad they have not been successful, we have excellent intelligence, but it doesn’t mean that it’s fantasy or they are out of funding. We’ve been fortunate, but AQ, especially AQAP hasn’t come close to slowing down.


31 posted on 05/21/2011 4:23:11 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: HollyB

So you’re trading liberty for security? How much security is enough? Fear is unlimited and easily stoked. When do you turn it off?

Is the TSA or The Patriot Act effective? Are they enough?


32 posted on 05/21/2011 5:21:04 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I did not say I was trading Security for Liberty. I said that the threat has not diminished. You had basically said their didn’t seem to be a problem with threats and I responded. No where in my response did I discuss what you are referring to. Talk about jumping to conclusions.


33 posted on 05/21/2011 5:36:39 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: lbryce

Why is a lot of the Bin Laden information being released to the public and the news agencies?

Shouldn’t our intelligence agencies keep it quiet rather than give ideas to other terrorists?


34 posted on 05/21/2011 6:59:42 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: lbryce

They did bomb a oil tanker after the Cole bombing


35 posted on 05/21/2011 7:45:41 PM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops)
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To: MestaMachine

Roy Orbison. Ronstadt is a poser.


36 posted on 05/21/2011 10:22:42 PM PDT by Selmore (Except for ending Slavery, Facism, Communism, and Nazism, War never has accomplished anything)
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To: HollyB

AQ has been threatening something major since 9/11, but we’ve gotten nothing.

The threats to the US are exaggerated. We have millions of Muslims to draw from and the terrorists can barely muddle through and the vast majority of their attacks occur in Muslim strongholds against other Muslims.

So what do you believe? You’ve stated that the threat is not diminished does it follow that you think we need the Patriot Act perpetually? The TSA should be expanded? At what point will the threat be diminished?

The threat to a free society is limitless. If you were not advocating trading security for liberty what are you advancing - status quo, more security/power in the hands of government or what?


37 posted on 05/22/2011 5:32:16 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: lbryce

Does the WH or the media know life existed before Dear Leader was Dear Leader? There was at least one tanker attack before, in 2002, which IIRC was considered the work of Al Qaeda. There have been others, which some have said were done by Al Qaeda.


38 posted on 05/22/2011 7:09:36 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: 1010RD
The threat is exaggerated, though real. In a decade nothing.

Hey look. Let's face some cold reality.

Life has all sorts of ways to kill ya. It's amazing we are alive at all. People are killed, EN MASSE, by the automobile, but we don't declare a War on Cars.

Some of us, a very small percentage, might be killed by terrorists. It's not worth all the loss of freedoms, the incredible expense, and so on, to prevent it.

39 posted on 05/22/2011 7:13:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: 1010RD

My only point when I wrote my statement was to respond to your post. Nothing more, nothing less.


40 posted on 05/22/2011 7:35:52 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Lazamataz

You and I agree 100% on this. Let me arm and protect myself and warn me of credible potential risks and attacks.

Spend our intelligence efforts killing the heads of the financial and operational arms of our enemies and let’s keep our liberties.


41 posted on 05/22/2011 12:13:59 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: HollyB

That’s really weird, me too. Could it be that we were just responding to each others posts?


42 posted on 05/22/2011 12:20:38 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: lbryce

JULY 4, 2002 : (LA, CA, USA : LAX AIRPORT EL AL TICKET COUNTER ATTACK BY EGYPTIAN TERRORIST H M HADAYET; TWO KILLED, SEVERAL WOUNDED ———— See POST 911 ATTACKS, AL GAMAA AL ISLAMIYA aka ISLAMIC GROUP)


43 posted on 05/23/2011 9:46:24 AM PDT by piasa
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