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Apocalypse not now: The Rapture fails to materialise
The Guardian ^ | 05/21/2011 | David Batty

Posted on 05/21/2011 6:45:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Squantos; sit-rep; humblegunner; Eaker; shibumi; Salamander

Stop judging me!

Besides, it’s said “formal dress.” So I bought a formal dress.

Damn!

Last time this happened was when I showed up at Gettysburg in a dress.


51 posted on 05/21/2011 7:43:38 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Brett66
Wait, does this go by Central Time or the 0 on the international date line?

I grew up in Mississippi, and we always said that Central time was God's time. So once 6pm rolls by Mississippi, I think we can all pretty much write this prediction off. The only business left will be to "stone the false prophet" as we use to laughingly say.

52 posted on 05/21/2011 7:44:14 AM PDT by BRK
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To: super7man

You mean the “Holiday” Islands?


53 posted on 05/21/2011 7:44:46 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: screaminsunshine
Damned stupid fool... what about, "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father" does Camping not understand?...
54 posted on 05/21/2011 7:48:50 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: lgjhn23
The Word says no man knows the day or hour, not even the angels in Heaven know. But I rest assured by His Word that it WILL happen.

www.patburt.com

55 posted on 05/21/2011 7:50:57 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Well at least ya have the legs for it....:o)

I’d had thought you’d backed off chasing skirts after that incident in Scotland.

Hope yer well Larry...stay safe buddy !


56 posted on 05/21/2011 7:51:07 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: South40

As I am a medieval specialist nerd, “The Bible guarantees it!” reminds me of the call for the first crusade cry of “Deus vult!” or “God wills it!”


57 posted on 05/21/2011 7:53:02 AM PDT by gun_supporter
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To: tsmith130

Guess I’m going to hell cause I’m still here.


58 posted on 05/21/2011 7:53:27 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: The Citizen Soldier
100 radio stations blasting 24/7

You really believe Camping's followers paid for 100 radio stations to air their claims 24/7? Who told you that, if I might ask?

59 posted on 05/21/2011 7:54:47 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: 240B

He doesn’t come close to 0’s fraud.


60 posted on 05/21/2011 7:57:02 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: Mom MD

The damage this Nut does to the message Christians are trying to get out to the unsaved is unmanageable. Using phrases like “The Bible Guarantees It”, only makes it harder for our missionaries and evangelist to discuss the Gospel with those who don’t know the Bible, particularly in foreign lands where much of his advertising was done.
And when discussing prophecy and end-time events with others we will be forever doing damage control, when they come back with “wasn’t that supposed to happen back in May of 2011?”
This is why Jesus gave a special warning in Mathew 24:11 “And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”


61 posted on 05/21/2011 7:58:46 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: dps.inspect

He supposedly took a couple verses and made it look real reasonable.


62 posted on 05/21/2011 8:02:49 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Rapture HAS HAPPENED. We just don’t know it because all the people that were taken have been erased from our minds.


63 posted on 05/21/2011 8:08:47 AM PDT by coton_lover ("He that lives upon hope will die fasting." -Benjamin Franklin)
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To: P-Marlowe

Has anyone seen Obanana, Harry and Nancy and all the Liberals? Maybe they are all gone? Let’s hope so!


64 posted on 05/21/2011 8:09:14 AM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: SeekAndFind
He previously predicted that the world would end in 1994.

The world actually ended in 2008.

65 posted on 05/21/2011 8:14:48 AM PDT by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anybody seen my wife?


66 posted on 05/21/2011 8:16:37 AM PDT by moovova (Obama...a man, a president, a loser.)
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To: Mom MD

The Rapture did not fail to materialize - it will materialize not at all, as it’s a phony invention of an American huckster.

No, not Huckleberry, err... Huckabee. Though I can see why you’d be confused between these particular con men.


67 posted on 05/21/2011 8:17:09 AM PDT by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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To: Golden Eagle
It should go without saying, but the media was just bringing an undue amount of focus on this kook in an attempt to paint all Bible believers as such.

That's the real takeaway. Add the Campster to the Phelphsite freaks and Voila! Christianity for the sheeple's amusement and derision.

What a tool.

68 posted on 05/21/2011 8:21:40 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory; and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: GailA
only no mass suicides.

I pray this holds true

69 posted on 05/21/2011 8:23:28 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory; and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: SeekAndFind
And the Toronto Raptors failed to make the NBA playoffs this year as well.


70 posted on 05/21/2011 8:26:04 AM PDT by xp38
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To: GailA
not even Jesus knows when the Trump will be ordered sounded

I thought the Trump sounded off earlier this year, then decided not to run?

71 posted on 05/21/2011 8:26:59 AM PDT by mikrofon (Does that mean the Rapture's off? ;)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Guess I’m going to hell cause I’m still here.

That's what happened to me. I was visited last night by a bright beautiful light. An angelic figure emerged.

I CRIED OUT ... LORD! LORD! YOU HAVE COME FOR ME!

He spaketh, and I quote..."Don't get exited, you're not going anywhere. I'm here for the dog."

72 posted on 05/21/2011 8:29:06 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Salgak
I **WAS** tempted to leave an empty set of clothing and shoes on the doorstep of a neighbor. . .

Now THAT's funny!

73 posted on 05/21/2011 8:30:07 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Thank you, Dubya and U.S. military. You did not falter. You did not fail.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wonder how the dingdong will feel tomorrow, the one that spent 140000 of his life savings on billboards and bus placards. Dope.


74 posted on 05/21/2011 8:31:31 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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To: Brett66

>>>Wait, does this go by Central Time or the 0 on the international date line?

THe way I understand it - it was supposed to start at 6PM in each time zone... so, there are plenty of time zones where it’s after 6pm, and nothing out of the ordinary seems to be happening.


75 posted on 05/21/2011 8:33:49 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: catbertz
“Do most Christians believe in the concept of Rapture? “
I’m not sure what percentage of Christians believe in the Rapture, but most do believe that there will be a literal tribulation period prior to, or before the physical return of Jesus. I say “prior to or before” because that is another argument among Christians nearly as divisive as the Rapture.

I do believe in the Rapture, mainly because the Tribulation period is seven years, and there is allot that needs to happen in just the first 3 ½ years of it. It would take Global Chaos for one man, the Antichrist to enter the Worlds stage and deceive nearly everyone LEFT on the planet, (all the peoples of the World in all religions) in such a short period of time.

The only type of “Global Disaster” I could think of on that scale would be for 200 or 300 million Christians to just vanish. And the whole point for the belief in the Rapture is we don’t believe Jesus meant for the Saved to have to suffer through the horrors that will happen to the planet during those seven years. And because he loves us so much and does not wish that any shall parish into eternal Hell, he knows it will take a great shake-up of those left to finally get them to listen. The “tough love” that so many of us fathers are familiar with. That we believe is the whole point of the Tribulation. Many will be saved during this time but they will be persecuted horribly, much like the first Church was, with public executions and torture, only to be ended with the physical return of Christ.

76 posted on 05/21/2011 8:41:02 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Golden Eagle
You really believe Camping's followers paid for 100 radio stations to air their claims 24/7? Who told you that, if I might ask?

Camping's Family Radio does have quite a few stations. And yes, they are spewing this nonsense. And sadly, he will make a bunch of dopey excuses and many of the gullible among us will still believe in him.

You can see the list of Family Radio's media outlets on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Radio

77 posted on 05/21/2011 8:42:34 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: catbertz

Sometimes we Calvinists find the dispensationalists rather entertaining, but this will paint all believers in the bad light. Predicting the date of the second coming is something those faithfully following scripture just don’t do regardless of eschatology. All doctrinally sound Christians agree Christ will have a second coming. Us adhering to covenant theology, believe when he comes, he comes and stays. No come down, rapture some and then return 7 years later. Any “meeting him in the air” is like the crowd going out to welcome their beloved victorious king home from battle. We’ll rush to meet him and escort him with praise into the gates of his earthly kingdom.

I was told by a Camping follower, that if we aren’t raptured today it means we aren’t true believers and Camping will still be correct. Now that is faith, but very misplaced faith. Camping will spiritually ship-wreck many today. This is evil disguised as light.

We should not ridicule or humiliate those that believed Camping, but pray for them and help them escape the grips of this false teacher (Jude 22 & 23), speaking graciously with love and concern. And for us that didn’t step into this snare, I think a reading of Romans 12:3 may be helpful.

Freepers, help me out here. Didn’t he predict the end of the world to occur later in the year and this would only be the rapture of true believers?

Peace all...


78 posted on 05/21/2011 8:47:42 AM PDT by chickenlips (Always an encouragement, Revelation 22:20)
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To: lgjhn23

RE: The Word says no man knows the day or hour, not even the angels in Heaven know

Harold Camping knows this verse and explains it thusly :

http://www.familyradio.com/graphical/literature/nomanknows/nomanknows.html

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However, it was not until a very few years ago that the accurate knowledge of the entire timeline of history was revealed to true believers by God from the Bible. This timeline extends all the way to the end of time. During these past several years God has been revealing a great many truths, which have been completely hidden in the Bible until this time when we are so near the end of the world.

How can this be happening?

That this should happen was clearly prophesied in the Bible. The Bible is the living Word that requires the Holy Spirit to open the spiritual understanding of the person reading or hearing the words of the Bible. Therefore, since it was not God’s plan to open anyone’s understanding of many truths of the Bible until very near the time of the end of the world, it is only now that exceedingly important Biblical truths are being understood. The Bible tells us that this was going to happen.


79 posted on 05/21/2011 8:49:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: Guenevere
The Bible says we will not know the hour....but we're to be ready ... ...I feel sorry for Camping spending all that money.....but he may have done some good... ..lots of folks might have had second thoughts about their souls and where they will spend eternity....if so, the money was well spent.... ..besides, it's not 6pm in America yet.....if God chose this day, it could yet happen.....at any second!

About the only thing sadder than this arrogant octogenarian false prophet are followers who blindly excuse his grevious errors. Are you seriously still entertaining the deluded hope that he could be right?

It is highly unlikely that Camping "may have done some good" and that "the money was well spent"... More likely, he has made Christians the laughing stock of the media and unbelievers by his false prophecy. The derision is multiplied by the fact that he tried the same stunt back in 1994.

Fool me once... fool me twice. Apparently his followers have not learned the truth of that simple aphorism.

Now we await the convoluted excuses from Camping as to how he was NOT wrong, and how everyone "misunderstood" what he was REALLY saying...

I believe in respecting ministers of the Gospel, but in this case the harm Mr. Camping has done far exceeds any good he may have accomplished in his ministry.

Years from now his legacy will be that of a failed prognosticator who squandered his ministry in the vain pursuit of his eccentric interpretations of biblical prophecy.

80 posted on 05/21/2011 8:54:02 AM PDT by tjd1454
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To: SeekAndFind


"The picture above proves we are not really here!"

81 posted on 05/21/2011 8:55:10 AM PDT by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: chickenlips
"...this will paint all believers in the bad light."

Which is why the media is making such a big deal about it.

Without the MSM, no one would even have heard of this guy.

Who's your Daddy?

82 posted on 05/21/2011 8:56:02 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: tjd1454
About the only thing sadder than this arrogant octogenarian false prophet are followers who blindly excuse his grevious errors. Are you seriously still entertaining the deluded hope that he could be right?

People that basically know better and give Camping a pass are just as bad. Camping should be mocked, made fun of, criticized relentlessly and exposed as an outright fraud. No Christian should be sitting around making excuses for him and trying to find the "good" in what he's done. He has done NO good - other than maybe giving some people an excuse to laugh at his expense. Camping is a fraud and all Christians have a responsibility to say so.

83 posted on 05/21/2011 9:04:57 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: SeekAndFind
D'oh!

Did Camping cut off his own sack like this guy did?
84 posted on 05/21/2011 9:07:08 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: SeekAndFind
However, it was not until a very few years ago that the accurate knowledge of the entire timeline of history was revealed to true believers by God from the Bible. This timeline extends all the way to the end of time. During these past several years God has been revealing a great many truths, which have been completely hidden in the Bible until this time when we are so near the end of the world.

Sounds like something Harold Camping, the soon-to-be revealed false prophet, said countless times in persuading his flock to bankroll his delusionary interpretations of the Bible.

This kind of reasoning has been used by every cultist and sectarian to justify their so-called "spiritual authority" over their followers. In each case they were fully persuaded that they were living in the "very last days." And in every case - including Harold Camping - their predictions have been shown to be false.

By what authority do you claim that this time you are right?

Rather, we should accept and believe the teaching of Jesus: "No man knows the day nor the hour."

85 posted on 05/21/2011 9:08:59 AM PDT by tjd1454
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To: Golden Eagle
So you have questions about Scientology...
86 posted on 05/21/2011 9:10:18 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 849 of our national holiday from reality. - OBL Dead? The TSA can go away!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I want my money back


87 posted on 05/21/2011 9:10:48 AM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie

RE: I want my money back

What did you spend it on?


88 posted on 05/21/2011 9:12:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: albie
I quit about 6 ears ago, but if I had taken this crap seriously I would have smoked a box of cigars.
89 posted on 05/21/2011 9:13:02 AM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: Baynative

I just got this funny e-mail from a Pastor in the Philippines...

“I am sending you this message from the air, where I have been caught up with others... Wi fi signals here are excellent, no signals can be blocked. Sorry you missed the trip... Give our best regards to Harold and the folks at Family Radio...


90 posted on 05/21/2011 9:15:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: moovova
Anybody seen my wife?

Yes, she's fine, very fine.

I'll have her call you when she wakes up and recovers a bit...

91 posted on 05/21/2011 9:16:25 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 849 of our national holiday from reality. - OBL Dead? The TSA can go away!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Response: Apocalypse not now: The Rapture fails to materialize"

Response: This false prophet has shamed Christianity and given its enemies one more weapon. The non Christians are having a field day assisted by the MSM.

92 posted on 05/21/2011 9:16:40 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: SeekAndFind
I have been wondering about this whackjob Camping. Maybe he means HIS world is going to end today at 6pm.

Waiting and watching to see if he decides to “off himself” and is hoping others will do the same.

93 posted on 05/21/2011 9:17:34 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: SeekAndFind
According to the article on Yahoo apparently some folks spent it on having their pets cared for ATR (after the rapture).

Sharon Moss, who founded AfterTheRapturePetCare.com to provide post-apocalypse animal care, said a new wave of customers has paid $10 to sign up in the last few weeks.

94 posted on 05/21/2011 9:18:50 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know what branch of Christianity this preacher is, but it is quite clear that we don’t know when the end of the world will be. Even the Protestants and Catholics agree on this one.


95 posted on 05/21/2011 9:19:42 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (I am not lead by any politician. I am my own leader.)
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To: Longbow1969; The Citizen Soldier

Thanks, I didn’t realize his propaganda was spread that far. Interesting that the stations are all along both coasts, none in the heartland.


96 posted on 05/21/2011 9:21:00 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
"Maybe he meant..."

97 posted on 05/21/2011 9:24:30 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: null and void

Thank you Sir, but I have no questions. Although I must admit the names of that planet and space god elude me at the moment, but are of no real concern.


98 posted on 05/21/2011 9:25:01 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: SeekAndFind
You people should quit listening to the winos at Pershing Square!
99 posted on 05/21/2011 9:27:04 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: SeekAndFind
It's depressing . . .

Even FReepers weren't snatched.

100 posted on 05/21/2011 9:34:37 AM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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