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Student defies ACLU at graduation, leads public prayer
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Posted on 05/21/2011 2:20:41 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin

Edited on 05/25/2011 2:44:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: napscoordinator

Private schools are expensive and not every parent can afford them. Are you saying kids can’t pray in public schools?

Although the Constitution forbids public school officials from directing or favoring prayer, students do not “shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate.” Tinker v. Des Moines Indep. Community Sch. Dist., 393 U.S. 503, 506 (1969). In addition, the Supreme Court has made clear that “private religious speech, far from being a First Amendment orphan, is as fully protected under the Free Speech Clause as secular private expression.” Capitol Square Review & Advisory Bd. v. Pinette, 515 U.S. 753, 760 (1995). Moreover, not all religious speech that takes place in the public schools or at school-sponsored events is governmental speech. Santa Fe, 530 U.S. at 302. For example, “nothing in the Constitution ... prohibits any public school student from voluntarily praying at any time before, during, or after the school day,” and students may pray with fellow students during the school day on the same terms and conditions that they may engage in other conversation or speech. Santa Fe, 530 U.S. at 313.

http://www.allaboutpopularissues.org/prayer-in-public-school.htm


101 posted on 05/23/2011 7:50:23 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Kids can pray all they want in public school for all I care. But TRUST me when I say that you are going to have Muslims, Druids etc doing the same thing during a graduation ceremony and you can’t say crap. That is why private schools are the best way to fight this. Too bad if they are expensive.....send them anyway and don’t purchase a new car for a few years. Such selfish people.


102 posted on 05/23/2011 7:53:47 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

As long as there is free speech for all then yes I am happy.

There is nothing in the Constitution that bans prayer in public. The ACLU is anti-liberty and has a communist agenda.


103 posted on 05/23/2011 7:55:07 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: napscoordinator

Many people don’t have new cars and still struggle. If anyone wants to pray, they can. Freedom of religion.


104 posted on 05/23/2011 8:00:52 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Thanks for not understanding what I posted. Here’s your gold star and blue ribbon.


105 posted on 05/23/2011 8:53:37 PM PDT by digital-olive
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To: Ira_Louvin

What a wonderful, brave young woman. God bless her. (and her parents!)


106 posted on 05/23/2011 9:00:33 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIAing)
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To: digital-olive

What a strange reply.


107 posted on 05/23/2011 9:11:18 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Ira_Louvin
"The First Amendment prohibition on government endorsement of religion exists to protect the minority from the majority"
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

It's that second part they keep forgetting. The First Amendment guarantees that the government may not force you to perform a religious exercise, it does not guarantee that you will never be exposed to other people performing religious exercises voluntarily.

108 posted on 05/24/2011 10:08:07 AM PDT by jdege
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To: vg0va3

We wish... but unfortunately the ACLU lives off a perhaps well intended but ill thought out Federal law that awards legal costs to the winner in civil rights lawsuits, no matter how petty the cause. So the ACLU lives off the taxpayer and has no economic reason not to press its tendentious jihad to the uttermost.


109 posted on 05/24/2011 3:07:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Ira_Louvin

FUACLU!!!


110 posted on 05/25/2011 9:55:50 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: metmom

AMEN!


111 posted on 05/25/2011 7:51:20 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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