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Student defies ACLU at graduation, leads public prayer
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Posted on 05/21/2011 2:20:41 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin

Edited on 05/25/2011 2:44:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Nonsense Unlimited

We should have freedom of religion, not from religion.


51 posted on 05/22/2011 3:48:20 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: JimmyMc

LOL, I love that!


52 posted on 05/22/2011 4:20:11 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: RatRipper
What part of "Congress shall pass no law . . ." does the ACLU not understand?
53 posted on 05/22/2011 4:33:28 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Ira_Louvin

In yo face suckas !!!


54 posted on 05/22/2011 6:58:46 PM PDT by culpeper (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people,)
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To: Ira_Louvin; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; ...
"The First Amendment prohibition on government endorsement of religion exists to protect the minority from the majority," said Marjorie R. Esman, ACLU of Louisiana executive director. "Freedom of religion belongs to everyone, not just those whose views may be more popular than others."

Obviously a *lawyer* who doesn't have a clue what the First Amendment says or means.

So, just who is protecting the majority from the tyranny of the minority? The ACLU are such hypocrites.

And just what are they being *protected* from? They might hear a prayer. Oh, the trauma.....

Those God haters need to get over themselves. Or if they don't want to hear about God, they can move to China, or Cuba, or NK, or any number of atheistic paradises.....

55 posted on 05/22/2011 9:15:56 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ira_Louvin
said Marjorie R. Esman, ACLU of Louisiana executive director. "Freedom of religion belongs to everyone, not just those whose views may be more popular than others."

Everyone, Ms Esman? Everyone?

Guess that would include Laci Rae Mattice, wouldn't it, Ms. Esman?

Thank you for your kind support of freedom of religion for everyone!

56 posted on 05/22/2011 9:28:33 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Ira_Louvin
""The First Amendment prohibition on government endorsement of religion exists to protect the minority from the majority," said Marjorie R. Esman..."

Who is there to protect the majority from the tyranny of a minority?

57 posted on 05/22/2011 9:28:46 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Ira_Louvin; metmom; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; ...
The following is directly relevant:

"ACLU Double Standard in Public Schools on a Single Person Bringing Complaints"


SafeLibraries.org - Are Children Safe in Public Libraries?
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SafeLibraries. org - Are Children Safe in Public Libraries?

Also see SafeLibraries Blog.

58 posted on 05/22/2011 9:31:45 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org (www.SafeLibraries.org)
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To: Ira_Louvin; All

Is this Bastrop, Texas?


59 posted on 05/22/2011 9:39:33 PM PDT by no dems (If the GOP nominee has no fire in the belly in 2012, we're going down.)
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To: plan2succeed.org

Sure. Some parent has no right to complain or address curriculum, but some stranger does.

The ACLU is so obviously out to destroy America.


60 posted on 05/22/2011 9:40:17 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ira_Louvin; 185JHP; 230FMJ; AKA Elena; Albion Wilde; Aleighanne; Alexander Rubin; ...
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YAY!!! More good news. Civil disobedience! Standing up to the ACLU! By young people in high school! Learning that they can stand up against evil scum leftists!!!

61 posted on 05/22/2011 9:42:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Ira_Louvin

The ACLU has something to learn about being the object of rebellion by the youth of America.


62 posted on 05/22/2011 9:43:23 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Ira_Louvin

God Bless this girl!!!

It is heart warming to see people stand up for their natural rights against leftist statism.

Thanks for the ping!!!


63 posted on 05/22/2011 9:45:42 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: metmom
Thanks, Metmom. And take a look at that link I posted above. I updated it with a link to this Free Republic story. But the funniest part of the material I just added is the logos of the 2 high schools I mention and my saying they are a graphic message for how they kicked out the ACLU--one is an angry looking ram and the other, better yet, is Neptune with his trident! Now that must have hurt the ACLU on the way out the door!
64 posted on 05/22/2011 10:22:55 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org (www.SafeLibraries.org)
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To: metmom
Here you go:



Ouch! That must have hurt the ACLU!



Yeowoh! Guess the ACLU won't threaten this school anymore!
65 posted on 05/22/2011 10:28:03 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org (www.SafeLibraries.org)
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To: metmom

I imagine Christians everywhere would be glad to pitch in a few bucks to pay for their moving expenses.


66 posted on 05/22/2011 10:35:20 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ira_Louvin
"The First Amendment prohibition on government endorsement of religion exists to protect the minority from the majority," said Marjorie R. Esman, ACLU

Dear ACLU, a high school senior ain't the government. Go suck an egg!

67 posted on 05/23/2011 3:49:04 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Ira_Louvin

The ACLU supports filth, it even supports Kiddie Porn and worked hard to take the schools from parental and local control and force it into centalized control by the federal government so that left wing activist judges could force their unamerican and immoral world view into the heads of other people’s children without any precedent for their illegal actions.


68 posted on 05/23/2011 4:04:39 AM PDT by OriginalIntent (undo all judicial activism and its results)
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To: Alamo-Girl
I imagine Christians everywhere would be glad to pitch in a few bucks to pay for their moving expenses.

Me too....

But only for a one way ticket.

69 posted on 05/23/2011 4:33:04 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

Screw those communist infiltrators. I am sick of these atheistoids who are actual communist cultists on government welfare.

Another civil liberty destroyed by a PC “spirit and speech blocking” Union called passive aggressively under a name that is the opposite of what it does. The impotent always seeks to c+block the rest.


70 posted on 05/23/2011 5:30:51 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Ira_Louvin

“We ought to obey God, rather than men” (Acts 5:29).

Well done.


71 posted on 05/23/2011 5:35:45 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Islander7

This country was founded on majority rules and the minority
has rights-not one self-absorbed douche with a aclu lawyer.


72 posted on 05/23/2011 7:27:38 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Ira_Louvin
"The First Amendment prohibition on government endorsement of religion exists to protect the minority from the majority," said Marjorie R. Esman, ACLU of Louisiana executive director. "Freedom of religion belongs to everyone, not just those whose views may be more popular than others."

Sorry Marjorie, but there is no First Amendment prohibition on government endorsement of religion, but rather a prohibition on Congress passing a law to establish a particular religion as an official state/national religion. And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with "protecting the minority from the majority", and it absolutely does not give anybody -- minority or majority or obnoxiously offended individual -- the right to dictate to others what they cannot say when speaking in public.

73 posted on 05/23/2011 7:30:48 AM PDT by VRWCmember (_!_)
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To: Ira_Louvin
"The First Amendment prohibition on government endorsement of religion exists to protect the minority from the majority," said Marjorie R. Esman, ACLU of Louisiana executive director. "Freedom of religion belongs to everyone, not just those whose views may be more popular than others."

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; I applaud the young lady for exercising her Right and for assisting her fellow classmates in exercising their Rights.

74 posted on 05/23/2011 7:39:12 AM PDT by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: JimmyMc

“Everyone in attendance said “God bless you.”” What great fun! Thanks!


75 posted on 05/23/2011 7:47:01 AM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: HollyB

I don’t understand why the non-religious crowd can’t just do what they tell us to do. When we’re offended by the filth on TV or the movies, or radio, we’re told to shut it off, tune it out and to shut up. They can take the same advice.


76 posted on 05/23/2011 7:53:48 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Ira_Louvin

student lead prayer is allowed.

The aclu still wins because the adults are under the sword.


77 posted on 05/23/2011 9:54:36 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Ira_Louvin

Our young people are finally being told by their ministers, or parents etc. about the anti-Christian efforts of the left. It’s long overdue.

Just yesterday I attended a church service were part of the message to the graduates was how unbelievers, such as some college professors, would ridicule the student’s Christian beliefs and try to cow them into abandoning them. And to not let them succeed.


78 posted on 05/23/2011 10:15:37 AM PDT by prairiebreeze
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To: traderrob6

Indeed.

How can you violate rights which do not exist? This amendment protects the practice of religion, and prevents the government from favoring one religion. Atheism is the absence of faith and religion, so does this amendment protect atheism? In my opinion, no.


79 posted on 05/23/2011 10:23:49 AM PDT by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: RatRipper
The ACLU has long been nothing more than a group of kapos in expensive suits driving Lexuses.
80 posted on 05/23/2011 10:27:11 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: prairiebreeze

Jeez, I don’t believe in Santa Claus. Should I now be offended when I see little kids making out their Christmas lists?

This is why I love working with the Native Americans. I’ve been working with tribes for 5 years now, and I have yet to attend even the smallest gathering that did not begin with Christian prayers and pledge to the flag, and end in Christian prayers. Let one misguided fool make a formal objection, I’m sure he/she would be visited by tribal leaders by sundown.


81 posted on 05/23/2011 10:34:40 AM PDT by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: RatRipper
Declare war on the ACLU because they have declared war on our nation.

And then hang their last remaining members. I'm serious. These barbarians are terrorists of the highest order.

82 posted on 05/23/2011 10:42:02 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
This, and the Mississippi incident on the Westboro Baptist Church's planned demonstration...

The Westboro folks had a little trouble with their tires in McAlester Oklahoma last year too... Trouble getting 'em fixed, too. How unfortunate.

83 posted on 05/23/2011 10:43:09 AM PDT by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. NRA, GOA, SAF, CCRKBA. FUBO.)
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To: vg0va3

I would not be surprised in the near future to see the ACLU have the cops (or even a SWAT team) at a graduation ceremony when the valedictorian does the same thing. The thugs-with-badges will take that valedictorian down and beat the snot out of him/or, charge him with obstructing an officer, resisting arrest and a variety of others, and then do a little asset forfeiture of the student’s car, his parent’s house, shoot the dog, arrest the parents, and anything else they can get hold of.

And will the cops be held accountable? Not on your life! They are immune from prosecution for just about everything.

And if this happens in Indiana and the student resists? I’m not even going to go there.


84 posted on 05/23/2011 12:48:56 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Ira_Louvin
America back to its founding Christian roots,

You're crazy, this country was founded by a bunch of Secular Deists, I got it straight from Bill O'Reilly. </sarcasm>

85 posted on 05/23/2011 1:08:19 PM PDT by itsahoot (We make jokes, they make progress. Dimmitude, get used to it.)
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To: RnMomof7
do you suppose they would go after an 18 year old girl for her freedom of speech?

Well yes, they would.

86 posted on 05/23/2011 1:10:40 PM PDT by itsahoot (We make jokes, they make progress. Dimmitude, get used to it.)
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To: Ira_Louvin
"Freedom of religion belongs to everyone, not just those whose views may be more popular than others."

Even Christians, you commie bathturd? Do Christians have freedom of religion?

87 posted on 05/23/2011 1:12:55 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The Communist Founders of the ACLU


88 posted on 05/23/2011 1:13:43 PM PDT by itsahoot (We make jokes, they make progress. Dimmitude, get used to it.)
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To: muawiyah

Take note also that the ACLU just stated California did the “right thing” in setting loose thousands of prisoners.


89 posted on 05/23/2011 1:15:06 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

I wish we could set the prisoners loose ON the ACLU.


90 posted on 05/23/2011 1:24:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I’ll definately vote for that!


91 posted on 05/23/2011 1:29:39 PM PDT by caww
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To: Redbob; Ira_Louvin
The ACLU idea of a "minority" doesn't get much beyond the Vanguard of the Proletariat (the small hard core body of true believing communists who keep everybody else in line by killing those who speak out).

If the ACLU could get away with it they'd have this young woman drawn, quartered and have her parts thrown into the fields for the wild dogs.

These people do not have the interests of the broad masses in mind.

92 posted on 05/23/2011 1:30:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Badabing Badablonde

“Atheism is the absence of faith and religion, so does this amendment protect atheism? In my opinion, no.”

In my opinion, yes. Atheism is itself a religion that requires much faith. More faith that it takes to believe in God, since they can’t expect answers to their prayers.


93 posted on 05/23/2011 2:29:04 PM PDT by Old Student
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To: aragorn
"The Westboro folks had a little trouble with their tires in McAlester Oklahoma last year too... Trouble getting 'em fixed, too. How unfortunate."

I think people are getting tired of the "in-your-face" stuff and the grassroots are spontaneously devising techniques to alleviate the situation.

94 posted on 05/23/2011 3:00:00 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: ilovesarah2012
Please rethink what you posted. There are plenty of conservative STRAIGHT atheists out there. I applaud what this woman did. She expressed her first amendment rights as an individual and the ACLU was wrong about this like they usually are. I might disagree with people on religion, but I never throw it in their face. If I am visiting relatives and they would like me to go to Church with them, I do. This is out of respect for their beliefs in the Lord.

BTW, the only reason I voted R in ‘08 was because of Palin.....don't p*** on your friends.

95 posted on 05/23/2011 7:03:49 PM PDT by digital-olive
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To: Ira_Louvin

It just does not make sense to me. Why does this student not go to private Christian school? My parents wanted to ensure that we could pray ALL DAY LONG if we so chose and sent us to Catholic School for my entire life. What is wrong with these parents?????? I can’t imagine forcing a public school to say a prayer.....of course I have never been in a public school so I don’t know anything about them but it just seems strange that the parents didn’t send the kids to private school.


96 posted on 05/23/2011 7:21:59 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Ira_Louvin

I bet you folks will be pleased with the Muslim student who will be saying prayers from her Bible book next year (or is it chants?). How is everyone going to feel about that. I can’t wait to see how you folks feel about that. I certainly will be in the “be careful what you wish for” category.


97 posted on 05/23/2011 7:25:50 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: TheBigIf

Next year they will have the Islamic call to prayers. The number one student at the school is a Muslim in the Junior Class and that is what this young person is going to do. I just wonder if you will be equally as happy. I just wonder why that was left out of the story. Next year will be interesting although most likely nothing will be said until closer to June 2012.


98 posted on 05/23/2011 7:32:11 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: digital-olive

I stand by my post. Atheists have no special rights. Neither do homosexuals.


99 posted on 05/23/2011 7:40:05 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: metmom

Agreed.


100 posted on 05/23/2011 7:42:16 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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