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Guerena family attorney responds to SWAT lawyer (Wants Pima Sheriff Dupnik to release reports)
KGUN9-TV (ABC) ^ | 5/19/2011 | Craig Smith, Layla Tang

Posted on 05/21/2011 3:46:06 PM PDT by Qbert

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To: Big_Harry

If that’s the wrong house, every officer on the scene deserves a life in prison jail sentence. The ones with any sense of honor should assume room temperature on their own accord.


21 posted on 05/21/2011 4:48:37 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Lloyd227

I don’t have a link. A friend of mine in that area was listening to her show when the incident was mentioned.


22 posted on 05/21/2011 4:59:44 PM PDT by Big_Harry ( Starve the Beast!)
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To: Big_Harry

OK, thanks for the follow up Harry. I just posted a question over on Tera’s Facebook page. Hopefully, if she has anything, it will be shared before it’s scrubbed


23 posted on 05/21/2011 5:00:47 PM PDT by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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To: Qbert
Storie held a news conference Thursday and released several new details about the May 5 raid at the Guerena house that have been kept private until now.

Soooooo... the warrants are sealed, and the cops aren't releasing any information. But somehow, the cops' lawyer gets to selectively release their side of the story as they make it up.

This is stinking worse and worse by the minute.

(BTW, just where ARE those badgelickers? I haven't seen them lately.)

24 posted on 05/21/2011 5:03:15 PM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: blackdog

I don’t know if that report was true or not, but there was never any reason to turn loose 71 rounds of rifle ammo in that house. I wonder what would have happened if the Marine had loosed something with a little heft, like a 300 gr projectile at around 2500 fps. With 4400 foot pounds of push right off the muzzle, those fellows would have gone down like bowling pins. Of course he would still be dead, but could have bled out with a little more satisfaction.


25 posted on 05/21/2011 5:05:50 PM PDT by Big_Harry ( Starve the Beast!)
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To: Qbert

Henry Bowman, please pick up the white Courtesy Phone.


26 posted on 05/21/2011 5:08:38 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Big_Harry
I heard today that Tera Servatius, an investigative journalist from WBTV in Charlotte, NC reported that the raid was on the wrong house.

I read in an article that the victim had only been in the house for two months, and that the warrant was for the address- not for any named individual.

I'm thinking there are two possibilities here. (1) The cops were acting on old information, in which this was incompetence; or (2) This was what it looks like- a hit, a MURDER, a CRIMINAL act.

27 posted on 05/21/2011 5:11:20 PM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: Qbert

Sheriff Clarence Dupnik

Only piece of information I need to know that this was just “Cowboys and Civilians” being played with big boy toys. All of them need to go down and very hard.


28 posted on 05/21/2011 5:13:36 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: blackdog

This story makes me sick to my stomach. even worse - the fact that Dupnick is now defending this makes me so enraged you have no idea.

stories like this make me almost feel like a liberal on civil liberties issues.

Get rid of SWAT, patriot ACT, etc. Enough is enough.

If this were a family member of mine, Iwould personally hunt down each one of these thugs with badges and > > .


29 posted on 05/21/2011 5:19:10 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: PalmettoMason

Good point.


30 posted on 05/21/2011 5:20:12 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: PalmettoMason

Why not wait till the guy is going to work to pick him up?

Fry every one of these criminal cops - with their families watching - and make an example of this.

I am so sick of this police state nonsense its not funny.

Bullies w Badges need a boot on their throats.


31 posted on 05/21/2011 5:22:07 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: Big_Harry
If anyone likes, check with your local police department or city council on what their policy is regarding the use of deadly force. You will find in most cases that once an officer discharges their weapon, they are to continue firing until the magazine is empty. Dead is cheaper to settle than paralyzed in a wheel chair and pissing in a bag for the rest of your life. Dead is in the few hundred thousand dollar range on average and wounded needing living assistance for another fifty years is in the millions.

Review your community's standards and you'll be surprized. Once a cop gun is fired, they want the Sallie to be dead.

32 posted on 05/21/2011 5:23:07 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Qbert
This was the same guy who couldn't talk to the press enough about the Gabby Giffords shooting. Going on cable talking about the heated political rhetoric being responsible for the shooting.

He sure had a lot say then. And not knowing what he was talking about sure didn't stop him either.

33 posted on 05/21/2011 5:25:31 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Big_Harry

Why not just call the guy an tell him to come down to the station?


34 posted on 05/21/2011 5:28:17 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: blackdog

That’s pretty much my policy as well.


35 posted on 05/21/2011 5:30:31 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a (small) monthly donor.)
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Sheriff Clarence Dupnik

Peter principle met decades ago. I don’t mean to sound unglued, but in some cases of arrogance with a badge, more people will suffer at the hand and mouth of this guy if good people do nothing. Why the city / county / state government has not stepped in and removed the guy after the Gabby fiasco I have no idea? The sheriff makes that Moose guy from the DC shooter spree look like a rocket scientist.


36 posted on 05/21/2011 5:31:29 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: blackdog

I have gotten to the point where i look at 99% of police no different than I do the worst of the pofs in the DMV, but with the ability to kill me.


37 posted on 05/21/2011 5:32:25 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: Repeal The 17th
I've never understood the outrage over how many bullets cops fire at someone. Like there is some sort of sliding rounds fired metric to be applied?

People are strange that and other ways.

38 posted on 05/21/2011 5:35:16 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

He was not dead when he hit the floor. In other articles his wife saw him on the floor and heard him moaning. He was dying, he was not dead instantly.


39 posted on 05/21/2011 5:47:25 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: PalmettoMason
...the warrant was for the address- not for any named individual.

Do you know the source of that claim and when it was first made? This is the first I've heard of it.

40 posted on 05/21/2011 5:47:35 PM PDT by Ken H
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