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1 posted on 05/21/2011 7:53:11 PM PDT by Zender500
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To: wagglebee; MplsSteve
Why do polls consistently fail to predict voters' behavior? There are several reasons. First, many polls use misleading language. They ask people if they want to "ban" same-sex marriage instead of using the amendment language that voters will actually encounter in the polling booth. (In our state, that language is: "Only a union of one man and one woman shall be valid or recognized as a marriage in Minnesota.")

"For years, the 'ban same-sex marriage' language in polls has produced about a 6 to 10 percentage point undercount on support for traditional marriage," says Maggie Gallagher of the National Organization for Marriage. "If you want to get the least favorable result on marriage, this is the language you choose for your poll."

2 posted on 05/21/2011 7:55:22 PM PDT by Zender500
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To: Zender500

And the “gay marriage” supporters intimidate because that’s what they do. They do not want a free exchange of ideas, or want to persuade people to their point of view. They want to shove it down our throats through the courts.

The marriage debates generally talk about how it’s discriminatory not to have homosexual marriage. Rather than talk about why homosexual marriage is good for society and good social policy, the activists tell us that it’s discriminatory not to allow it.

And as noted above, news editorials of a liberal bent indicate opposition to allowing a vote on the issue because to do so is bigotry. In the liberal mind, the debate is over simplified to one of bigotry against homosexuals, not a debate about the purpose of marriage, or what types of relationships should have legal status.

We’re not even supposed to talk about that according to liberals. If a law or policy “discriminates” according to liberal criteria, it is worthless and must be eliminated. Debate and discussion are not allowed.

3 posted on 05/21/2011 8:16:28 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Zender500

Without even opening the article, I’m certain that the left-wing base that is the Star Tribune’s cheering section is trashing Katherine in the comments.

Call it a hunch....

4 posted on 05/21/2011 8:18:14 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo ( Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: Zender500

This may be a bit premature. The legislature may have “endeavored” to let the people vote, but they haven’t actually decided to do so yet. They’re debating it right now.

5 posted on 05/21/2011 8:33:07 PM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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To: Zender500


If their love is true, why can’t they opt to be intimate?

9 posted on 05/21/2011 10:31:58 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Zender500
In recent weeks, the issue of who gets to define marriage -- Minnesota citizens or a handful of judges or legislators -- has been on the front burner.

NO one does!

It is alREADY 'defined'!

10 posted on 05/22/2011 5:09:48 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: Zender500

Kersten is the one voice of sanity in that rag. However, one reason the Minnesota Poll is nearly always wrong is because it consistently oversamples Democrats without any attempt at correction. The Red-Star Tribune simply wants the big lefty headline.

11 posted on 05/22/2011 5:59:18 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: Zender500
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.


Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Ain't this just FABULOUS??      More?

Isaiah 3:9   The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b  Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

2 Peter 2

 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 10.  This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature  and despise authority.   Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
 11.  yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
 12.  But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
 13.  They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

13 posted on 05/22/2011 5:50:12 PM PDT by Elsie
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