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T.D. Jakes to Franklin Graham: Apologize to Obama
Houston Chronicle ^ | 5/22/11

Posted on 05/22/2011 12:24:59 PM PDT by truthandlife

Bishop T.D. Jakes, a Dallas megachurch pastor who will be preaching at Lakewood Church during Memorial Day weekend, is calling out Franklin Graham on his his hesitancy to accept Obama as a Christian and asking he apologize for casting speculation onto the president’s faith.

We didn’t question the Christianity of President Bush when he said he accepted Christ, and I’m disappointed in Rev. Franklin Graham in that regard,” Jakes told Martin. ”…And I would hope that he would see the rationale in apologizing for such statements — because if the president’s faith is suspect, then all of our faiths are suspect, because the Bible is quite clear about what it takes to be saved and the president has been quite open about his accepting Christ and him openly confessing it before men. And if it’s good enough for the Bible it ought to be good enough for the rest of us.”

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1 posted on 05/22/2011 12:25:05 PM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife
T.D. Jakes

is just another Pagan masquerading
as a follower of the Christ.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
2 posted on 05/22/2011 12:27:20 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: truthandlife

The Reverend TD Wright??


3 posted on 05/22/2011 12:28:37 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: truthandlife

Jakes sounds like an a-hole. The only person guilty of “casting speculation onto the president’s faith” is Obama, by his own actions. I mean Barky lies about absolutely everythign else, why should anybody believes anything Obama says about anything?


4 posted on 05/22/2011 12:29:08 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: truthandlife
why would Graham apologize when the kenyan klown worships another? http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/obama-bow-saudi-king1.jpg
5 posted on 05/22/2011 12:31:21 PM PDT by max americana (.)
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To: truthandlife

Jakes fruit inspecting indicator is broken.


6 posted on 05/22/2011 12:31:21 PM PDT by hope
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To: truthandlife

By their fruit you will recognize them. Matthew 7:16


7 posted on 05/22/2011 12:31:27 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: truthandlife

Somebody needs to tell TD that if it doesn’t quack like a duck or walk like a duck....it ain’t a duck.


8 posted on 05/22/2011 12:32:32 PM PDT by derllak
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To: truthandlife
If Barack Hussein Ubama were on trial for being a "Christian" would there be enough evidence to convict him??

Is TD going to go to the Muslim world and tell ALL the Muslims to "apologize" to Barack?? Every Muslim I have ever met unequivocally will tell you Barack is a Muslim. So who is right and who is wrong? There is more evidence supporting Barack's Muslim faith than there is of him having a Christian faith.

9 posted on 05/22/2011 12:32:43 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: truthandlife
Jakes is a Black guy, so naturally he will lie about obama. Maybe he can tell us when it was that GW Bush ever went on national television and talked about "my Muslim faith."
10 posted on 05/22/2011 12:33:13 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: truthandlife
We didn’t question the Christianity of President Bush when he said he accepted Christ

Ok, so Bush and Obama are the same?

So, I guess by this twisted logic we can infer that Bush was also born to a Muslim Kenyan father, raised in a Muslim countries and attended a madrassa as a child registered as a Muslim, has a fully complete and entirely Arabic Muslim name, is named after Muhammed’s horse, quoted the Koran and Muslim prayers, and praised all things Islamic while disparaging Christianity.

Yeah, that sounds like Bush.

Just another Christian Muzzie sucker. There are thousands of them just like him these days.

11 posted on 05/22/2011 12:33:17 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: truthandlife

One is known by the company they keep. Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers are Obama cronies. And just about everybody KNOWS that Obama answers to Georgie Porgie Soros! T.D. has a bigger gap between his ears than the one in his front teeth!


12 posted on 05/22/2011 12:33:31 PM PDT by getarope (Paddle faster, I hear banjo music!)
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To: truthandlife

for many black churches,

race is more important

than God.


13 posted on 05/22/2011 12:34:24 PM PDT by ken21 (liberal + rino progressive media hate palin, bachman, cain...)
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To: truthandlife

If Jakes can’t see why Senator Soiled Utility Room is suspect, he’s blind man. If the only difference he can see between Dubya and Senator Soiled Utility Room is their color, he is a blind man.


14 posted on 05/22/2011 12:35:10 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: getarope

The anti-christ will proclaim he is god. Will Jakes also believe him?


15 posted on 05/22/2011 12:36:26 PM PDT by hope
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To: truthandlife
Of course Hussien is a Christian. These are just...uhmmm...misunderstandings, yeah that it...

“One of the prettiest sounds on earth” is the Muslim call to prayer at sunset.
Barack Hussein Obama as quoted by Nicholas D. Kristof in the New York Times - March 6, 2007

• The FIRST thing Obama did as a newly elected Illinois State Senator was to attempt to declare a Muslim holiday. Obama sponsored Bill SR0110 in the 90th General Assembly to declare November 1, 1997 to be Islamic Community Center Day. It did not pass.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/summary/900SR0110.html

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/srgroups/sr/900SR0110LV.html

• His biological father was a Muslim.
http://www.bing.com/reference/semhtml/?title=Barack_Obama%2C_Sr.&src=abop&qpvt=barack+obama+seniot&q=barack+obama+senior&fwd=1

• Because his biological father was a Muslim the Islam world thinks he is a Muslim.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-numbers/2010/08/obama_is_a_muslim_18_24_or.html?hpid=topnews http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/

• His stepfather was a Muslim.
http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/

• As a child Barry was enrolled in school as a Muslim in Jakarta Indonesia. An Indonesian Madrasa.
Obama didn't just study at a Muslim school, he was enrolled in mugaji classes (where devout Muslims learn the Koran in Arabic).
http://laotze.blogspot.com/2008/01/obama-and-inconvenient-truth.html

• Barack Hussein Obama’s first and middle names are Arabic Muslim names.
Barack was the name for Mohammad’s horse. Husein, enough said.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700246419/Barack-Muhammads-horse.html

http://sanooaung.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/will-be-obama-with-us-muslims-as-the-meaning-of-his-name-in-persian-language/

• Obama recited the opening lines of the Muslim call to prayer, which includes a vow of fidelity to Islam, in flawless Arabic on a radio program. - Nikolos Kristoff, NYTs, 3-06-07 (***this one is a gottcha moment***)
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.3413/pub_detail.asp

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/11679

• On that same program he said he thinks the call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on earth.”
http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/obama-muslim-call-to-prayer-one-of-the-prettiest-sounds-on-earth/ http://caosblog.com/archives/7373

• Obama belonged to Rev. Wright’s (a former Muslim) church for twenty years. Many congregants are Muslims.
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/04/07/jeremiah-wright-former-muslim/

http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/03/20/rev-wright-got-his-masters-degree-in-islam-in-west-africa/
http://endtimes.yuku.com/forum/viewtopic/id/289

• Obama’s said that the U.S. is “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/9959057/Barack_Hussein_Obama_US_one_of_the_largest_Muslim_countries_in_the_world/
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/06/obama_america_one_of_the_large_1.asp

• Obama holds Muslim celebrations in the WH but canceled the National Day of Prayer.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1724544/obama_cancels_national_day_of_prayer.html?cat=9 http://www.exposeobama.com/

• President Obama’s religious adviser, Eboo Patel, once deemed the United States “the ideal place for the renewal of Islam.”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/-obama-tells-egyptian-foreign-minister-i-am-a-muslim-stealth-coup-on-the-white-house.html

• Obama does not give gifts on Christmas.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/12035.html

• Obama doesn’t celebrate his birthday.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/04/a-tough-birthday-for-obama/

• Obama falsely attributes Muslim participation in the founding of America.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.7041/pub_detail.asp

• Obama required that the cross be covered when he gave a speech at Notre Dame.
http://blog.acton.org/archives/9843-notre-dame-georgetown-and-president-obama.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/11/opinion/main5006203.shtml

http://dougpowers.com/2009/04/17/obamas-jesus-coverup/

• Christian symbol covered up during Obama’s Georgetown speech
http://myfaithspace.ning.com/profiles/blogs/obama-covers-christ-and-cross

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=46667

• Obama’s first major speech in office was a “Muslim outreach” speech in Cairo Egypt.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-at-Cairo-University-6-04-09/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8083171.stm

• “The American President told me in confidence that he is a Muslim,” said Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit on Nile TV.
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/06/12/bombshell-egyptian-foreign-minister-ahmed-aboul-gheit-says-on-egyptian-tv-%e2%80%9cthe-american-president-told-me-in-confidence-that-he-is-still-a-muslim-%e2%80%9d/

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=166905

• Obama gave strong support to the Cordoba House community center and mosque to be built at the Ground Zero site of Sep. 11, 2001 at a dinner celebrating the day’s end of the first day of Ramadan at the WH.
http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/president-obama-supports-ground-zero-mosque/19593492?ncid=webmail

• Obama tasked NASA with a mission of “Muslim outreach.”
http://technology.newsplurk.com/2010/07/nasa-and-islam.html

• Obama referred to his faith as “my Muslim faith” gaffe in an interview with George Stephanopolous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I • Pushes Islamic freedom of religion but not Jewish or Christian freedoms. Several weeks ago he told Israel NOT to build settlements in East Jerusalem. But OK to build that Mosque at Ground Zero.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/7514285/Israel-spits-in-Obamas-eye-by-announcing-new-settlements-in-east-Jerusalem.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/24/barack-obama-israel-settlement-plan

16 posted on 05/22/2011 12:37:50 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: truthandlife

Race is thicker than water


17 posted on 05/22/2011 12:38:05 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: truthandlife

This is the same T.D. Jakes who has plans to co-produce the movie adaptation of the recent bestseller “Heaven is for Real”. Looks like he has been told by the WH to help TOTUS win back some wavering moderate Christian voters. It also looks like I will not be checking out his movies. I’ll buy ten more copies of book “Heaven is for Real” instead.

See this earlier fr post for the article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2719135/posts


18 posted on 05/22/2011 12:38:54 PM PDT by ruralvoter
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To: truthandlife; xzins; blue-duncan; wmfights
If Barack Obama were accused of being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict him?
19 posted on 05/22/2011 12:39:01 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: All

obama is a muzzie....


20 posted on 05/22/2011 12:39:30 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: hinckley buzzard

>Jakes is a Black guy, so naturally he will lie about obama. <
*****

BINGO! Eventually, Jakes will flip out the race card. It’s coming..


21 posted on 05/22/2011 12:39:45 PM PDT by max americana (.)
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To: ken21

That’s the sad truth.


22 posted on 05/22/2011 12:40:11 PM PDT by HectorOne
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To: truthandlife
Why would Graham question Obama's Christian faith?

Could it be the Obama bows to Islam, supports and backs Muslims while they are killing Christians and burning down their churches all over the Mid East, and is filmed on You-tube stating that, bottom line, he will back Muslims. Doesn't sound like a born again Christian to me.

23 posted on 05/22/2011 12:40:29 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: truthandlife

Also the fruit of the tree: Dad Billy.

Can bad fruit come from a good tree?
I’d trust F.G. over this other guy.


24 posted on 05/22/2011 12:40:38 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (God humbles and (if need be) destroys the false idols of the peoples. Be patient, folks...)
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To: truthandlife

T.D. Jakes rejects the doctrine of the Trinity, therefore he himself is not a Christian either, but a Sabellian.


25 posted on 05/22/2011 12:41:47 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: truthandlife
"We didn’t question the Christianity of President Bush when he said he accepted Christ

President Bush didn't go to school in a muslim Madrassa.

President Bush didn't claim to have a muslim for a father.

President Bush didn't grow up in a home with a muslim for a step father.

President Bush doesn't have a grandmother who said he was born in a muslim country.

President Bush didn't bow down to the muslim king in Saudi Arabia.

President Bush didn't say that "the muslim call to prayer is one of the prettiest sounds on Earth".

President Bush didn't tell NASA they should concentrate on muslim outreach.


26 posted on 05/22/2011 12:42:17 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. -- John Steinbeck)
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To: 240B

What’s this pastor’s email address? We need to send those links to him. If it walks, talks, and acts like a Muzzie it more than likely is a Muzzie!


27 posted on 05/22/2011 12:42:46 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: truthandlife

Bush walked his faith, Obama does not.


28 posted on 05/22/2011 12:42:51 PM PDT by mulligan
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To: truthandlife

Can Barack Obama say, “Jesus is Lord of my life?”


29 posted on 05/22/2011 12:43:00 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: faucetman

I stand firmly with Franklin Gramham, whose example of living out his faith in blessing through the ministry to the least among us. No greater love than to lay down your life for your brother. Opposed to the name it and claim it ministries who has never been on the front lines in the way Samaritans Purse has.


30 posted on 05/22/2011 12:44:46 PM PDT by hope
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To: truthandlife
We didn’t question the Christianity of President Bush when he said he accepted Christ,...

Because GW displayed the 'fruits of the spirit'/evidence of his salvation that come naturally after accepting Christ. The madman in the WH has displayed not one indicator of those attributes.

31 posted on 05/22/2011 12:47:54 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("...; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,... "Hosea 4:6)
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To: P-Marlowe; truthandlife; xzins; wmfights

“Obama, Thou Art Loosed Cannon”

brought to you by TDJ Enterprises

http://www.tdjakes.com/


32 posted on 05/22/2011 12:50:22 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: hope

Did TD Jakes approach Franklin Graham regarding his concern or did he just take it straight to the airwaves? Perhaps Jakes need to repent of this matter himself.


33 posted on 05/22/2011 12:50:26 PM PDT by hope
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To: hope
I stand firmly with Franklin Gramham, whose example of living out his faith in blessing through the ministry to the least among us

I just a news clip of Franklin Gramham planting rice fields in N. Korea to help avoid a famine. He's also in Haiti.

34 posted on 05/22/2011 12:54:48 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: hope

Note to self. Donation to Samaritans Purse.


35 posted on 05/22/2011 12:55:14 PM PDT by hope
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To: missnry

My faith hasn’t changed regardless of what a Muslim Obama is. What’s gotten into T.D Jakes?


36 posted on 05/22/2011 12:56:49 PM PDT by Bowtie52
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To: truthandlife

While TD is preaching at a megachurch, Franklin Graham continues to feed the poor and work in third world countries and deal with muslim and their sharia law there.

If Graham says according to the common knowledge in those countries, they consider him a muslim (which is all graham ever really said), then I think he knows more than a bunch of megachurches in the US who are focused on race.


37 posted on 05/22/2011 12:57:25 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: truthandlife

NOOOOOOOO, I LOVE(d) TD JAKES!!!

Damnit, I always thought race wouldn’t be an issue with him, but I guess so.

Never buy another book you racist preaching a-hole.


38 posted on 05/22/2011 12:58:57 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: truthandlife

Obama’s religion is not suspect, he is a Muslim.


39 posted on 05/22/2011 12:59:18 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: truthandlife

Jakes urged his followers to vote for The One. Melanin is Jakes’ master.


40 posted on 05/22/2011 12:59:38 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: truthandlife

TD Jakes - you are NOT to touch God’s anointed. And not strange you will disobey that rule because of color.


41 posted on 05/22/2011 1:00:20 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: hope

Big time!!


42 posted on 05/22/2011 1:01:03 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: ken21

for many black churches,

race is more important

than God.

You only missed a

great haiku by two is all.

Try again next fall

for many black church

es, race is more important

than God is, you see.

LOL, that's kink of fractured. Just havin' a little fun...

: > )

43 posted on 05/22/2011 1:01:24 PM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: truthandlife
I'm disappointed that TD Jakes will be preaching at Lakewood Church (Houston) over Memorial Day weekend.
He needs to keep his Franklin Graham comments to himself and his "preaching" in his own Dallas "church".
44 posted on 05/22/2011 1:02:11 PM PDT by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: ken21

ken21 wrote: “for many black churches,

race is more important

than God.”

I would question your use of the word “most”. If race wasn’t more important to black churches than God; they wouldn’t be “black” churches in the first place.

I’ll change my opinion when someone can give me a comprehensive list of “white” churches.


45 posted on 05/22/2011 1:02:21 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Outlaw Woman
"Because GW displayed the 'fruits of the spirit'/evidence of his salvation that come naturally after accepting Christ. The madman in the WH has displayed not one indicator of those attributes."

Exactly! When did Bush once retaliate against the avalanche of criticism he faced during and after his presidency? It's called self-control, which is part of the fruit of the Holy Spirit. When did Obama ever not retaliate? What fruit of the Spirit has he ever demonstrated? Love? Joy? Patience? Peace? Goodness? Kindness? Faithfulness? Gentleness? Self-control? Gal 5:22-23. "You shall know them by their fruits." Matt 7:16

46 posted on 05/22/2011 1:02:41 PM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin
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To: faucetman

Race is thicker than Truth!


47 posted on 05/22/2011 1:02:49 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: stars & stripes forever

Seems that type of ministry which is so needed is few. Our youth are further away from the truth than ever before. Where are these narcissistic ministers.. they are preaching for the money.


48 posted on 05/22/2011 1:03:24 PM PDT by hope
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To: truthandlife

Last I heard Jakes doesn’t believe in the Trinity and if that’s still the case Jakes isn’t a Christian himself. One thing for sure, the Muslim dolt he thinks deserves an apology isn’t a Christian and in fact is actively working to cripple Christians in this country and to aid Muslims everywhere on the planet.


49 posted on 05/22/2011 1:07:42 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: truthandlife; 240B

It is clear from this 2004 unedited interview by Cathleen Falsani with Obama that, even if one gives him the benefit of the doubt that he thinks of himself as a Christian, he is missing the very core beliefs of a Christian.

http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/11/obamas-interview-with-cathleen.html


50 posted on 05/22/2011 1:08:24 PM PDT by thouworm
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