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‘60 Minutes’ report: Armstrong encouraged doping
Houston Chronicle ^ | 5/22/11 | EDDIE PELLS

Posted on 05/22/2011 5:14:49 PM PDT by truthandlife

Lance Armstrong’s former teammate, Tyler Hamilton, says Armstrong and other team leaders encouraged, promoted and took part in a doping program in an effort to win the Tour de France in 1999 and beyond, according to a report aired Sunday night on “60 Minutes.”

Hamilton said he saw Armstrong take performance-enhancing drugs, EPO and testosterone and also saw him receive a banned blood transfusion.

“I feel bad that I had to go here and do this,” Hamilton said. “But I think at end of the day, like I said, long-term, the sport’s going to be better for it.”

In the interview, portions of which were aired Thursday and Friday on “CBS Evening News,” Hamilton revealed other observations about the U.S. Postal team operation:

—Team leaders, including doctors and managers, encouraged and supervised doping;

—Doping was going on inside the U.S. Postal team even before Armstrong joined in 1998;

—Performance-enhancing drugs, including EPO and human growth hormone, were handed out to cyclists in white lunch bags;

—Team members were met at the airport, driven to hotels, told to lie down and give blood that could be transfused back into their bodies at a later date.

Armstrong long has denied doping and has never tested positive.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


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KEYWORDS: armstrong; busted; epo; peds

1 posted on 05/22/2011 5:14:53 PM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife

So, why all of the apparently coordinated attacks on a retired bicycle racer? It’s not like he’s still racing. Why does he need to be knocked off his pedestal?


2 posted on 05/22/2011 5:22:05 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: truthandlife

Day late and a dollar short on this revelation. I don’t trust this guys motivations here. I think he is lying.


3 posted on 05/22/2011 5:23:23 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: truthandlife

It’s too bad...I always knew there was a chance that Lance had doped, but hoped that he was the real deal. However, between Landis, Hamilton and (reportedly) Hincapie, it appears the fairytale story will not play out.


4 posted on 05/22/2011 5:26:46 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: truthandlife
Say it ain't so, Joe.

That being said, the euroweenies are still pissed.

5 posted on 05/22/2011 5:28:19 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: truthandlife
Armstrong long has denied doping and has never tested positive.

That seems to be the bottom line.

Hamilton, on the other hand, gets a bit of fame and that always equals cash.

Armstrong might have been the most closely watched cyclist in the history of the sport, and I can't imagine him getting away with any detectable drugs in his system.

After years away from the sport, from 2005 to 2009, he returned in 2009 and was third. Not bad after a lengthy lay-off. All during that time drug allegations were rampant.

Therefore, there is no way he got a pass in 2009 with allegations at a hysterical level even then.

And he placed third.

I'd say he was a damned good cyclist.

6 posted on 05/22/2011 5:30:16 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: truthandlife
Didn't the team members have an obligation to report it as soon as they knew about it? Like, before Armstrong raced?

Seems to me like a case of put up or shut up. I guess it was fine with them when the team was winning.

7 posted on 05/22/2011 5:30:23 PM PDT by grania
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To: SuzyQue

Because a French citizen didn’t win the race.

I read Armstrong’s book. He really isn’t to likeable. That could also be part of the problem.


8 posted on 05/22/2011 5:46:03 PM PDT by berdie (qill)
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To: truthandlife
This is just the French hating that America kicked their ass in something again... Lance is the man and they have no proof and only people making money that agree to say whatever they are paid to say... that is my opinion and I am sticking with it.

LLS

9 posted on 05/22/2011 5:53:56 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("If you lie hard enough and sell your soul... you can scam your way to the top" barack obama)
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To: truthandlife

Lance Armstrong has reportedly taken and passed 500 tests to find out if he was doping. He was not found to be doing so. It is beyond the realm of possibilities, that a guy can fake that many tests. INNOCENT...without a shadow of doubt in my mind.


10 posted on 05/22/2011 5:57:52 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: xzins

Armstrong was way ahead of the testing and when he got tested positive he just paid people off. Armstrong always got stronger in the mountain stages and that is when EPO does the trick.

Remember, Armstrong wasn’t the only one doing it. They were pretty much all doing it if they were contenders. It is a dirty sport.


11 posted on 05/22/2011 5:58:24 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: truthandlife

Aw jeez, pas cette merde encore.
12 posted on 05/22/2011 6:07:57 PM PDT by caveat emptor (FUBO)
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To: truthandlife

I like Lance. 60 minutes are following an identical path, fed to them, by the Euro whiners who lost. He may just be the most tested athlete in history. It’s all there. No need for samples. Expect a lawsuit or two.


13 posted on 05/22/2011 6:34:22 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost
You want to make a bet. Lance hasn't filed a suit yet. The truth is closing in on Armstrong.

Here is a little more of a detailed version of the story from the NY Times:

Armstrong Teammate Describes Doping System (NY Times 5/22/11)

14 posted on 05/22/2011 6:37:01 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: truthandlife
nyt, cbs, same agenda. Do you dispute the assertion that he may be one of most tested athletes in history?
Yes or no?
15 posted on 05/22/2011 6:45:48 PM PDT by allmost
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To: truthandlife

All hearsay, no proof. There are so many people who want to bring him down, that if he tested positive, he would go down.


16 posted on 05/22/2011 6:45:54 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: truthandlife

I don’t trust the guy. I only saw the previews but the guy appeared to be very shifty eyed and never looking directly at the interviewer. If you watch closely, you will notice that most of Zero’s people have this same trait. Notice Gates press conference the other day?


17 posted on 05/22/2011 6:54:00 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: truthandlife

News Flash...News Flash: Armstrong was taking performance-enhancing drugs...as (so called) treatment.

Get your bracelet here...hooo get your bracelet here...


18 posted on 05/22/2011 6:54:11 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: truthandlife

OK, explain how someone who had testicular cancer doesn’t actually need testosterone medically? I never understood this point. I would think, like women who’ve had ovarian cancer, that they would need a little supplementation for the quality of life issues.


19 posted on 05/22/2011 6:56:14 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: caveat emptor

LOL! I’d even change “Aw jeez” to “Putain.”


20 posted on 05/22/2011 6:57:35 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: truthandlife

21 posted on 05/22/2011 7:01:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SuzyQue

What if it’s true?

Let’s face it, Lance had a ‘miraculous’ run when almost all of his competitors were juiced up. So *I think* he was on dope.


22 posted on 05/22/2011 7:46:05 PM PDT by mewykwistmas (Lost your job as a birther under Obama? Become a 'deather'! Where's Bin Laden's death certificate?)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I saw a portion of the interview and the guy was acting really shifty when answering the direct questions. His eyes were all over the place.


23 posted on 05/22/2011 8:29:59 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: truthandlife

First, the link has a malware download.

Lance Armstrong likely did use EPO at one point. It was during chemo and radiation treatments, which is why EPO was developed.

As for use during training and competition, I highly doubt it. The reason is his longevity in the sport. Lance has always been an extremely strong athlete, going back to when he was a triathlete while in high school. I saw him at the 1991 Texas State Road Race Championship in San Antonio (Stone Oak area before it got completely built up, and some brutal climbs). Agewise he could have raced in the junior division. Instead he raced in the Category 1/2 (that’s the range from very good amateur to on the verge of signing a pro contract), and shredded the entire field.
Riders who stay consistently strong for a decade or more are likely not on the juice.
Another example of this is Kent Bostick (who can also be a prickly type A++ personality).


24 posted on 05/22/2011 8:34:40 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Tyler Hamilton retires from cycling after failing second doping test
April 18, 2009
Diane Pucin
Hamilton, who won Olympic gold in 2004, says he took depression medication that contained a banned steroid. He served a two-year suspension after a 2004 test, but has never admitted blood doping.
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr/18/sports/sp-tyler-hamilton18


25 posted on 05/22/2011 8:38:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: mewykwistmas

Lance had a ‘miraculous’ run when almost all of his competitors were juiced up. So *I think* he was on dope.

Look at his health history. I would dare say that he would not even consider being on the juice. He has already faced his own mortality before, and has already considered what that stuff could wake up inside of him. And I mean something that could be fatal. With that history, messing with the endocrine system with artificial substances in NOT a good idea. Proper training and good nutritional supplementation may be more work, but has longer lasting results. By good nutritional supplementation, I use Michael Colgan’s “Optimum Sports Nutrition” as an example.


26 posted on 05/22/2011 8:41:32 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: truthandlife

Cyclist Tyler Hamilton has turned in his 2004 Olympic gold medal to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency after admitting in a “60 Minutes” interview that he took performance enhancing drugs along with Lance Armstrong, and a second former teammate of Armstrong’s also has come forward to accuse him of doping.

Hamilton’s lawyer, Chris Manderson, tells the Wall Street Journal that the cyclist returned his medal because he didn’t want the controversy to distract from his confession and allegations that he saw the seven-time Tour de France winner dope.

The USADA confirms it has Hamilton’s medal and “will continue to work with the IOC and the USOC as appropriate concerning the final implications of our overall investigation,” according to the Journal.

Snip

George Hincapie, a longtime member of Lance Armstrong’s inner circle, also told federal authorities he saw the seven-time Tour de France winner use performance-enhancing drugs, according to another segment of the “60 Minutes” report that aired Friday night on the “CBS Evening News.”

Hincapie has often been depicted as one of Armstrong’s most loyal teammates and was with him for all seven Tour victories. In an interview last year, Armstrong said Hincapie was “like a brother to me.”

Hincapie is among a number of former Armstrong teammates and employees who have appeared before a federal grand jury in Los Angeles investigating doping in cycling. Hamilton said he testified for six hours before the panel.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/05/20/teammate-accuses-lance-armstrong-doping/


27 posted on 05/22/2011 8:49:10 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: truthandlife

Now one of the race directors at the Tour of California, Andreu told Pelley he took banned substances because lesser riders he believed were doping were passing him.

“Training alone wasn’t doing it and I think that’s how ... many of the other riders during that era felt, I mean, you kind of didn’t have a choice,” he is quoted as saying.

Andreu’s wife, Betsy, who has said Armstrong discussed taking performance-enhancing drugs as doctors prepared him for cancer treatment in 1996, said she and her husband are working with investigators.

“We are cooperating, and we’ll just tell the truth. And telling the truth has been costly,” she said. “It’s not popular to tell the truth about Lance.”

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/05/20/teammate-accuses-lance-armstrong-doping/


28 posted on 05/22/2011 8:52:11 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: truthandlife

And Hamilton countered Armstrong’s claim of having never failed a drug test, saying that Armstrong told him in a relaxed, “off the cuff” manner that Armstrong had failed a test at the 2001 Tour of Switzerland.

“People took care of it,” Hamilton said. “I don’t know all the exact details but Lance’s people and people from the other side, people I believe from the governing body of the sport, figured out a way for it to go away. I was told this (by) Lance.”

The “60 Minutes” report offered no hard evidence that UCI officials helped Armstrong evade a doping suspension, but cited a Swiss lab director’s statement to the FBI that said a UCI official wanted the matter of a “suspicious” test to go no further and set up a meeting with Armstrong and team officials.

The report also noted Armstrong donated $25,000 and $100,000 to the UCI, which Armstrong said was for anti-doping work.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/cbs-hamilton-says-armstrong-doped-took-care-of-a-2001-tour-de-suisse-positive_175474


29 posted on 05/22/2011 8:57:10 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: USNBandit

I saw a portion of the interview and the guy was acting really shifty when answering the direct questions. His eyes were all over the place.

***

I agree bad body langauge

60 Minutes, 05.22.11, Video
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/60_minutes/video/?pid=Y1bXgfRDBk4ELaiUeZdW4F5ZLE23VeIU&vs=homepage&play=true


30 posted on 05/22/2011 9:07:55 PM PDT by restornu (If folks donÂ’t speak boldly they stand for nothing but veneer! God Bless America!)
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To: truthandlife
"They were pretty much all doing it if they were contenders. It is a dirty sport."

If, as you say, all the contenders were doping, wouldn't that negate any "unfair advantage" Armstrong might have gained by doping?

31 posted on 05/22/2011 9:09:05 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: truthandlife

SO the story is that Lance Armstrong led an open and active encouragement of doping for an entire team of athletes, most of whom were never top contenders, and who ended up on other teams, and not ONE of those athletes EVER came forward when Lance was later scrutinized, even though it would have helped their current teams and not really hurt them in any serious way?

Before, we were to believe that Lance was doping, but was so good at it, and so secretive, that nobody knew. Now we are to believe that he was so loved or feared that everybody knew and nobody said anything.

Get a positive blood test, and I’ll believe it.


32 posted on 05/22/2011 11:57:03 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Almost every top rider Armstrong competed against - never mind those who rode at his side during his USPostal days has been tainted by PED use or blood doping.

I just cannot believe everyone believes Armstrong is clean. I am sure when he grand jury comes out, it will be pretty damning.


33 posted on 05/23/2011 3:43:15 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: kcvl

I mean, you kind of didn’t have a choice,” he is quoted as saying.

You always have a choice. Always.


34 posted on 05/23/2011 4:24:50 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: truthandlife
When I saw this story on Armstrong, it reminded me of the story "60 Minutes" did on Greg Mortenson a few weeks ago. Perhaps it is a coincidence, but the one on Greg Mortenson was after a disastrous Obama speech on the economy and this one was after a horrendous Obama speech on the Middle East. Both of these Obamanation orations were chock full of lies and deceptions. But does 60 Minutes/CBS fact check any of these? No, they go after men who have become heroes based on real accomplishments. Yes, if they were dishonest they should be held accountable, but if 60 Minutes is on such a truth crusade how can it avoid the Gorilla in the room: all of Obama's so called "accomplishments" are based on lies and half truths.

Like I wondered about the timing of the Mortenson piece, I also wonder about the timing of the Armstrong attack. Perhaps the reason for these "exposes" is to try and show how easy it is to take some “shine” off anyone. When Bill Clinton was under siege for his indiscretions, I recall the media trying to help him out by basically lowering the “ethics” bar and trying to say that "everybody" in Washington had “Bill Clinton” type ethical problems.

If CBS is really trying to bring the "bar" all the way down to Obama’s level I think we will be seeing a lot more of these hit pieces. Stay tuned.

35 posted on 05/23/2011 5:14:38 AM PDT by Heuristic Hiker
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To: truthandlife

CBS is a renowned liar.


36 posted on 05/23/2011 6:30:57 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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