Skip to comments.Confirmed: Jindal and Rubio NOT Natural Born Citizens
Posted on 05/22/2011 6:31:10 PM PDT by jdirt
MIAMI, Fla. Are U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal natural-born citizens of the United States, and thus eligible for the presidency?
It's a simple question, but the answer may not be so easy.
The next national election is less than 18 months away, and both rising Republican stars have been touted as potential contenders for either the No. 1 or No. 2 spot on a presidential ticket.
But their eligibility is in doubt since both men's parents were not U.S. citizens at the time their future political children were born, WND can reveal. That factor is important because the Constitution mandates a presidential candidate to be a "natural-born citizen," a requirement that has dogged President Barack Obama since the 2008 campaign.
With 2011 being the apparent year of the birth certificate, Jindal this month released a copy of his own birth record, indicating he was born on American soil specifically, Baton Rouge, La. to parents who were born in India.
Based on that disclosure, the New Orleans Times-Picayune newspaper declared him to be qualified for the White House, stating, "Piyush Jindal was born at Woman's Hospital in Baton Rouge, a natural-born U.S. citizen, who like every other child born in America, could, constitutionally, grow up to be president."
Kyle Plotkin, Jindal's press secretary, echoed that proclamation, telling WND, "The governor is obviously a natural-born citizen."
Meanwhile, Marco Rubio was born in Miami, Fla., on May 28, 1971, to Mario and Oriales Rubio who were born in Cuba, though the senator has not released his birth certificate for the world to scrutinize.
Read more: Now popular Republicans 'not natural-born citizens' http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=297485#ixzz1N8MU2PlT
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What will the Repubs do now? What will the Dems do?
FYI There is a 5 to 10 day period that ANYBODY can file a challenge (petition) to a candidate's qualifications after the "qualifying" deadline. No standing required. Every State is different. It is not too early to check the laws in your State and your States Constitution. Just google, search "your state name" code and a searchable code will come up. Look for, contest or challenge candidate qualifications. If want to challenge Obama you will need to be sure of what you need to do because he will not be in a primary.
It looks like it will be the American people v the courts, the media and the two political parties.
None have expressed interest in running for president so it doesn’t matter.
Both were born in the US. Their parents were not citizens at the time of birth.
If the article is true, neither qualify for the presidency.
Both parents MUST be born in the USA.
If you define a natural born citizen as the framers originally meant it, then BOTH parents must be citizens AT THE TIME OF YOUR BIRTH in addition to the requirement that you must be born on American soil.
If this is so, Jindal, Rubio AND Obama are NOT natural born citizens ( yep, even with Obama’s Birth Certificate).
“Both parents MUST be born in the USA.”
RE: Both parents MUST be born in the USA.
Actually both parents must be citizens at the time of one’s birth for one to be natural born.
If anybody really cared about this, Barry0 would not be in office.
The constitution no longer applies.
First off, Rubio is a Open border Amnesty type,Who would want that? Jindal, I do not see him drawing the votes necessary to win.
If they are NOT natural born citizens, that means they qualify!
Yes and you have to be a landowning male as well.
RE: Yes and you have to be a landowning male as well
Is that a requirement as originally conceived by the framers?
I smell a new book by the Corsi /Farah scamsters.
Let’s hope that Jindal has the live birth certificate...of his grandfather and grandmother ;)
Any citizen of Kenya qualifies.
RE: Both parents MUST be born in the USA
Born in the USA or Citizens of the USA?
What about Mitt Romney’s parents?
That's a new one; previously it had only been claimed that the candidate's parents had to be citizens at the time of his birth, not that they also had to be born in the US.
I've yet to see any evidence that the *law* -- not the Framers' intentions, or books they may have read and cited approvingly, etc. -- but the *law*, as it currently stands, recognizes three classes of American citizens (natural-born and eligible for the Presidency, born in this country of non-citizen parents and ineligible for the Presidency, but a citizen from birth, and naturalized citizens). The law only knows about natural-born citizens and naturalized ones.
Both Rubio and Jindal are citizens from birth.
I am a citizen, but my wife is a legal immigrant. So some conservatives want to say my children are not natural-born citizens and could never be president. Really, how narrow do they want the conservative movement to be? The whole Obama birth certificate “issue” just made some conservatives look stupid.
this natural vs native is pure bunk.
this is visiting the sins of the father (or mother) upon the child.
No baby is ever given a different designation on their birth certificate.
We need to focus of finding a good candidate to go against an obama who will be superfuned via corruption, endosred by ALL media (including FNC) and protected by unionistas and wallstreet.
This issue is just a sacraficial anode for the rubes.
Not according to our founding fathers. Everyone running for the office of president must be born in the USA, to parents also born in the USA.
If I’m wrong...show me where.
AND states individually controlled immigration not the feds
AND there was no waiting years to become a citizen
AND there was no real national registry of citizens
WorldNutDaily isn’t exactly a great source for accurate information.
It’s total crap.
WND is weird
I am glad this is being brought up now so that the question can hopefully be answered before the primaries. It will be fun to watch nobama & his gang of pretenders squirm. I am guessing that somehow they will screw us w/nobama & toss Jindal & Rubio under the bus. They have too many people in their pocket not to screw the country again.
“to parents also born in the USA.”
Where does it say that in the Constitution?
With just another sentence or two here and there in the Constitution, the founders could have saved the USA many future disputes and debates such as the NBC issue. And I believe they did intend for a NBC to be a citizen born on US soil to two US citizens. (They probably didn’t foresee cases such as McCain, someone born to two US citizens on foreign military bases or foreign soil because a parent was serving in another country in the US military).
And I think if the founder’s had been more specific as to their intent that Obama, Jindal and Rubio would all be ineligible to serve as president. But they weren’t more specific and there is no way anything will come of this issue now but a new, much looser interpretation of who can serve as president. And each of the three in question will be considered eligible.
Did I miss something? Did the Supreme Court rule on the eligibility clause? No, they didn’t and until they do, everything else is just someone’s opinion.
I believe that the founders intended a Natural Born Citizen to be born of two U.S. Citizen parents, but I also believe that the Supreme Court of today probably will say that born on U.S. soil is good enough.
If one of the parents are born in the USA, and the other becomes a US citizen...the off spring are known as native born citizens thus disqualifying the off spring for the presidency.
The Constitution merely says that anyone elected to the Presidency must be an NBC. It doesn't define the term. Court decisions or statutory law would have to do that. Can you cite a court decision or a federal statute that says what you claim?
I hear this repeated ad nauseum, but haven’t seen a shred of what I’d consider proof.
What one or both need to do is to announce their intent to run for the POTUS. The Lame Stream Media will stupidly pick up the story and then they will be primed to pick up the story on Hussein Obama - NOT!!!!
“I believe that the founders intended a Natural Born Citizen to be born of two U.S. Citizen parents”
What is that belief based on?
Why did liberals force johnny McCain to be natural born of citizen parents?? where is the dunham hussein obama resolution since the commie was born in kenya?...
where were these conspiracy kooks when Dukakis was running?
or were they just fond of democrat politicians in tanks?
>>>If Im wrong...show me where.
“Natural born” in common law at the time of the writing of the constitution was taken to mean being born to parents who were CITIZENS.
How ‘bout you show us why you’re right?
I believe you are correct.
The courts will hold that there are just two types of citizens; those who are entitled to citizenship by the circumstances of their birth (thus called ‘natural born’), and those who are ‘naturalized’
The courts are going to pay no more attention to original intent in this case than they do to original intent regarding the ‘general welfare’ clause. Too much is at stake for the statists.
If the Republicans were smart, they would turn the political tables on the Dems & name Rubio to the ticket. Then you can let THEM piss off the Latino vote by challenging it in court.
I'm pinging the Sunday night mod....if this silliness doesn't get yanked and stopped, I'm through -- finito, nada, no mas -- supporting Free Republic; the Chris Matthews/Keith Olbermann types will have restocked their ammunition based on dumbass threads just like this.
Just a hat tip to the mods that this place is running amok.....reining in is way overdue.
Before everyone gets out of whack, Obama is a not a natural born citizen which disqualifies him to be POTUS because of his father. The powers that be are doing this because of their one world government push.
We have no secured borders and an ineligible President. Look where it’s gotten us. People with no loyalty to their country should not head it.
I for one don’t want to answer to a bunch of buffoons just because they are rich.
Why don’t you just leave the thread? No one asked for your opinion.
Neither meet the requirements for natural born, both are naturalized citizens from a different country,
Contemporaneous writings of the founders and others. But what I think, or the writer of this blog thinks, or anyone else out there thinks doesn’t matter. What matters is what politicians think and what the Supreme Court might rule if they ever get the case.
They don’t need to be for the offices they hold. Should they choose to run for the presidency down the line and they don’t qualify, oh well. We’ll just have to choose somebody else.
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