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Cain stumbles on right of return?
The Right Perspective ^

Posted on 05/22/2011 10:15:38 PM PDT by deek69

US presidential candidate Herman Cain is trying to recover from an embarassing stumble over the question of the Palestinian Right of Return on Sunday.

“Right of Return?,” Cain blankly asked twice in response to being questioned about his position on the vital issue on FOX News Sunday. The second or two of deafening silence that lasted before host Chris Wallace repeated “The Palestinian Right of Return” to the Republican hopeful seemed to last forever.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; cain; clueless; foreignpolicy; gaffe; gop; hermancain; palestine; rightofreturn
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To: gleeaikin; Vendome

BTW, it is common courtesy, and forum etiquette, that you ping the one to whom you are referring.


201 posted on 05/25/2011 12:44:21 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: dixiechick2000; Vendome; All

Yes, I know she is the author, but Nathanial Brandon did a lot to publicize here philosophy. This was 40 years ago. I was not aware the jweekly.com was a pro Palistinian site as the writer was talking about synagogues, mitzvahs and the like. The site I mentioned at Comment #101 called Palestine Facts, did not seem at all pro Palestine. I did not read any of the other articles listed. The article said really nasty things about the Grand Mufti, and the anti-semitic British who helped him get his start. Did you read the whole article? Please do, and then tell me if you think it is pro Palestine


202 posted on 05/25/2011 12:45:10 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin; dixiechick2000; James C. Bennett; cpdiii; MestaMachine; Mr. Mojo; This Just In; ...

Well you are conflating several issues with the one extant issue of the so called right of return and they are non-sequitors at best.

But really have nothing to do with the subject matter of the post.


203 posted on 05/25/2011 12:48:50 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: gleeaikin; dixiechick2000; James C. Bennett; cpdiii; MestaMachine; Mr. Mojo; This Just In; ...

There is no comparison to Jewish, Israeli or Sharia law.

Sharia law is a purely an evil of subjugation while the other two are negotiated positions.


204 posted on 05/25/2011 12:51:14 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Vendome; All
I have probably studied the Israel issue a lot less than you have. I will give you my long standing impression of it and you can correct me if I am wrong.

In 1948, the British pulled out leaving the Jews will very scant defense capability. Surrounding Arabs, with the Grand Mufti playing a significant role intimidated Palestinian Arabs into fleeing the scene. Amazingly, the Jews won, something I applauded at the time. Since the Arabs had abandoned their homes, the Jews were not eager to have them back. Everything got very nasty with various Arab organizations/countries, and Jewish organizations like the Hagana, Irgun, and Stern Gang mixing it up. Then the 1967 war happened and the Israelis again kicked butt. After a while I came to the conclusion that this mess is going to go on for a long while and my attention went on to other things like raising a family. I also concluded that the Arab countries had basically hung the Palestinians out to dry and to use as a scapegoat and anti-Israeli rallying point. When I discovered just now that the Grand Mufti was Yassar Arafat's father, things made a lot more sense. By now, most of the Arabs who ran away in 1948 are dead. As a political gesture, it might make sense for Israel to let a few come back.

205 posted on 05/25/2011 1:05:36 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

Pretty much.


206 posted on 05/25/2011 3:01:11 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: gleeaikin; Vendome

“Although I very much respect Israel’s right to exist, many people, including me until a month ago, do not realize that Israel is a democratic Theocracy. They have their own version of Sharia Law. I am now in the process of doing more research into this situation and its implications.”

This is your first post on this thread. I thank you so much for your further research into this matter.

“When I discovered just now that the Grand Mufti was Yassar Arafat’s father, things made a lot more sense. By now, most of the Arabs who ran away in 1948 are dead. As a political gesture, it might make sense for Israel to let a few come back.”

That is the root of their so called “right of return.” Maybe they should let some very, very old AUTHENIC refugees back into their country.

However, the Palestinians claim that there are 5 million refugees.

What do you think would happen if the “right of return” was implemented?

One last thing, there are many arab muslims who are Israeli citizens, and their lives are much more free than any other arabs in the middle east. When Israel is attacked with bombs and mortars, the Israelis don’t care if the injured are arab or Israeli. They treat them all the same.

I’m hopeful that your heart has changed towards the Israelis.


207 posted on 05/26/2011 12:02:33 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: gleeaikin; Vendome

“I have probably studied the Israel issue a lot less than you have”

You should make a point of studying it much, much more.

How can you be objective if you don’t know both sides of any issue?


208 posted on 05/26/2011 12:05:20 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: dixiechick2000; Vendome; All

My heart toward Israel has been the same since the 1967 war when I was very glad they won. My sadness for what the Jewish people have suffered has been the same since at the age of 8 I saw the terrible concentration camp and mass grave photos in Life Magazine in 1946.


209 posted on 05/26/2011 1:41:04 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

My feelings towards Israel were cemented when I was 12, after watching a documentary on Adolf Eichmann.

I hope you no longer put them on equal footing with the Palestinians.

Israel can’t afford that.


210 posted on 05/27/2011 12:13:57 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: dixiechick2000

I have no idea where you ever got the idea that I equated Israelis and Palestinians. I have always admired the way that Israel has worked and made the desert bloom.


211 posted on 05/27/2011 2:33:48 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

I got that idea from your first post on this thread.

“...Israel is a democratic Theocracy. They have their own version of Sharia Law...”

You can equate Israeli democracy with Sharia Law?

How did you get “there”?

Do you understand what Sharia Law is?


212 posted on 05/28/2011 12:05:13 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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Cain Rorschach thread index bump.


213 posted on 05/28/2011 12:41:35 AM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: gleeaikin

You seem like a very nice person.

I’m sorry that I called you anti-semitic. You were simply ill informed. Thank you for doing some more research.

I hope you will continue to research, and will continue to post here.


214 posted on 05/29/2011 12:37:00 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: dixiechick2000

Apology accepted. Have a nice weekend.


215 posted on 05/29/2011 3:47:59 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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