Posted on 05/23/2011 12:43:41 AM PDT by Brown Deer
I have already wasted too much time on this today; here is a small sampling of links, although I suspect you will have no interest in any of them. I think the first is the most interesting as relating to what we were taught and what was discussed during our time in school. The first post is from the son was born abroad to citizen parents. His father was a soldier stationed overseas. His story is consistent with what I was taught.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheCREST/message/24264
The second is a very in depth article written by constitutional scolar Gabriel J. Chin.
The third is a link to a discussion on DU, similar to dozens if not hundreds of other discussions by DEMOCRATS where many insist that McCain was not elligable to be president.
The following are articles from the main stream media in 2008. It is funny how knowledgable the seemed to be back then when the question was about McCain. Now they don’t seem to have any clue or concern about the constitutional “Natural Born Citizen” requirement.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us/politics/11mccain.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23415028/ns/nightly_news/t/mccains-citizenship-called-question/
http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/06/the-supreme-redux-is-john-mccain-ineligible-to-be-president/
It’s always possible to gather a set of arguments for a particular position. In general, yours appear to be from what I would consider to be extremists; in particular, crazies from DU and a serviceman who is clearly a natural born citizen under current laws and court decisions. (And citing arguments from DU extremists really doesn’t help your argument in any way and is sort of ironic, don’t you think?) I haven’t yet read the legal argument you posted, but I will.
I’m not saying you don’t have an argument, I’m saying that it’s one that has little or no substantial currency under present U.S. law.
I’m not saying you don’t have an argument, I’m saying that it’s one that has little or no substantial currency under present U.S. law.
If it was so clear that the person who was born out of the country whose father was a serviceman has natural born status... then why did the Senate bother passing a resolution regarding John McCains natural born status. It was clearly understood by almost anyone who attended public schools up until around the mid 1970s that a person born outside of the country was not a Natural Born Citizen. Many feel that this was not fair and so like so many other contentious issues over time a clearly understood concept was distorted. It is not really right, but I can accept that this is the way it works. Natural Born Citizen had a clearly understood meaning both in common knowledge and in the courts.
I can send you link after link. The links I sent from the main stream media were to illustrate that when they were writing about John McCain this previous meaning was remembered clearly. It is only when Obama’s status is questioned that complete amnesia sets in.
I have a 17 year old dog; he is now blind and deaf and his sense of smell isn’t what it used to be either. When he starts whimpering it usually means he is hungry or thirsty or needs to go out. I can place his water or food directly under his muzzle, but a lot of times he will continue whining until I push his chin directly into the food or water. Then he will start eating and drinking. The years have taken their toll but he still seems to be better at recognising what is placed directly in front of him than you.
Gosh, you were doing so well until you brought up the dog thing.
John McCain didn’t need a resolution to run for president. The resolution was mere political gilding of the lilly. Just like George Romney needed no resolution when he ran. McCain also ran in 2000, for the nomination, and needed no resolution then either.
I know, I’m sorry, I couldn’t help myself.
Roger, Over and Out
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