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EXCLUSIVE: Harold Camping to Speak Monday on Failed Prediction
International Business Times ^ | May 22, 2011

Posted on 05/23/2011 3:59:47 AM PDT by don-o

Harold Camping, the Oakland, California-based broadcaster who made a failed prediction about a cataclysmic doomsday said on Sunday he would make a statement on or by Monday night in a "public forum" to explain himself.

An IBTimes reporter met him at his home in Alameda, Calif., and said he would explain in the forum tomorrow.

When asked about his silence since the prediction, Camping said he needed more time seeing that his major prediction had failed, and wanted to think and recover, calling the event "a big deal."

Camping, 89, has not been heard from since Saturday.

In 1994, Camping also predicted that doomsday would come, although he admitted at the time there was a miscalculation.

(Excerpt) Read more at ibtimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: camping; christianradio; endtimes; haroldcamping; rapture
I cannot vouch for credibility of the source. It's not clear if the "forum" in which he will explain is Camping radio "Open Forum" or not
1 posted on 05/23/2011 3:59:50 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

Darn it, he forgot to carry the one! It’s actually going to occur on May 21, 2021! Yep, that’s the ticket!


2 posted on 05/23/2011 4:02:53 AM PDT by Ronin ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves" -- Bertrand de Jouve)
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To: don-o

Unless he publicly apologizes and repents for his sin of presumption - and donates the $100mm he’s sitting on to actual worthy causes - then nothing he says is worth hearing.


3 posted on 05/23/2011 4:14:33 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: don-o

That silly old man named Camping,
Must now spent his hours revamping,
His rapture predictions
That must be depictions
To the real one that right now is ramping!
...
Bill Cunningham Jr.


4 posted on 05/23/2011 4:16:57 AM PDT by it_rr (kervan yürür)
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To: wideawake
[...] the $100mm he’s sitting on [...]

I thought they maintained a cash-poor operation.

5 posted on 05/23/2011 4:17:49 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: wideawake
...then nothing he says is worth hearing..

But Camping is such an enlightened man... if we define enlightenment as the ability to separate fools from their money. (/sarc)

6 posted on 05/23/2011 4:30:07 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Gondring

Not according to their IRS filings.


7 posted on 05/23/2011 4:36:23 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Bump!


8 posted on 05/23/2011 4:39:05 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: wideawake

Exactly and I will go further... he needs to be in jail.

LLS


9 posted on 05/23/2011 4:52:49 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("If you lie hard enough and sell your soul... you can scam your way to the top" barack obama)
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To: don-o

The “forum” in which he needs to worry about “explaining himself” is the one that will take place with God immediately after his death, which, at 89, isn’t far away.


10 posted on 05/23/2011 5:02:34 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: don-o
Lucy, you have some splainin' to do!


11 posted on 05/23/2011 5:09:16 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: wideawake
Not according to their IRS filings.

Their 2009 IRS filing shows $1.5 million in cash.

12 posted on 05/23/2011 5:10:57 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: don-o
The penalty for false prophecy, is capital punishment (per Deuteronomy 18:20).

"But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death."

Or a position within the Dimocrat party

13 posted on 05/23/2011 5:16:01 AM PDT by Fighting Irish ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: don-o

“Camping said he needed more time seeing that his major prediction had failed”

He must still be...Up in the air about it.


14 posted on 05/23/2011 5:18:53 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: Gondring
Their 2009 IRS filing shows $1.5 million in cash.

And $34 million in public traded securities, nearly $57 million in other assets that are not land or buildings.

A total of $104.8 million in assets. Hardly a shoestring operation.

15 posted on 05/23/2011 5:19:03 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Gondring
Their 2009 IRS filing shows $1.5 million in cash.

It also shows $35mm in investments in securities and $56mm in other tangible assets.

So, he's sitting on $92.5mm and not $100mm.

16 posted on 05/23/2011 5:26:01 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: thackney
Exactly - $36mm in cash and liquid securities is hardly "cash-poor."
17 posted on 05/23/2011 5:31:32 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: don-o

$10 says this clown will claim he just did it to test peoples faith or raise their awareness or some such lame claim.


18 posted on 05/23/2011 5:40:18 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: muir_redwoods

my check is in the mail....you win


19 posted on 05/23/2011 6:19:34 AM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: wideawake; thackney
Like I said, a cash-poor operation.

To me, "sitting on" implies a lack of use, and revenue these investments and other assets are employed to offset expenses, and, even then, only to a small extent compared to the total expenses. Most of the revenue is donations.

It's unclear from IRS filings what portion of those assets are actually employed in the business operations, but I think that our difference is in what is meant by "sitting on" them. I wouldn't say that a business that owns employee desks is just "sitting on" those assets. The chairs, however.... ;-)

20 posted on 05/23/2011 11:07:11 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

So about 35% of their total assets is either cash or public-traded securities.

While stocks and bonds are not cash, they are pretty liquid in my opinion. They could be sold at market value within an hour.


21 posted on 05/23/2011 11:29:00 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Gondring
Like I said, a cash-poor operation.

$35mm in publicly traded securities is not cash-poor by any stretch of the imagination.

That's a lot of liquidity.

When the Wall Street Journal says "Apple's cash pile is now $65.8B" they are talking about $16B of cash, and almost $50B of publicly traded securities.

22 posted on 05/23/2011 11:52:40 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

And here I was debating with myself prior to posting that when you said he was supposed to donate what he was sitting on, you might have meant himself, not the company...and all the talk that he had taken the money and run (publicly traded securities are not identical to cash). I never guessed we had different definitions of “sitting on”.

But that’s irrelevant to the bottom line. I’m curious why you think he should donate his assets or the radio networks’.


23 posted on 05/23/2011 12:25:10 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
you might have meant himself, not the company

Do you really believe that he is practically - as opposed to legally - separate from the company?

I’m curious why you think he should donate his assets or the radio networks’.

Because he collected that money on false pretenses and, morally, he should give that largesse to non-fraudulent entities.

24 posted on 05/23/2011 12:38:27 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Do you really believe that he is practically - as opposed to legally - separate from the company?

Not for most purposes. That's why I concluded you weren't making any relevant distinction.

Because he collected that money on false pretenses and, morally, he should give that largesse to non-fraudulent entities.

False pretenses?

He offered his interpretation of the Scriptures...Scriptures that are freely available for anyone to review. If a post of yours turns out to be wrong and I believed it, do you owe a donation to a third party?!

25 posted on 05/23/2011 12:59:30 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

If I solicited donations from you on the basis of the false information in my post, I would be morally obliged to return that donation to you or to donate it to a worthy cause if I could not locate you.


26 posted on 05/23/2011 1:04:09 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
"Unless he publicly apologizes and repents for his sin of presumption - and donates the $100mm he’s sitting on to actual worthy causes - then nothing he says is worth hearing."

" 20`But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.' 21. "And if you say in your heart, `How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?' 22. "when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him." Duet 18

It seems to me nothing he says is worth hearing no matter what he does.

27 posted on 05/23/2011 1:27:39 PM PDT by 728b (Never cry over something that can not cry over you.)
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To: wideawake
If I solicited donations from you on the basis of the false information in my post, I would be morally obliged to return that donation to you or to donate it to a worthy cause if I could not locate you.

The RNC owes a lot of people some big checks!

28 posted on 05/23/2011 3:53:23 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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